Riccardo Montolivo Thread

MilanReality · Sep 17, 2011

The old adage:
"Mess with the bull, you get the horns"

ahmadkanafani · Sep 17, 2011

Senatore_M84 said:
How is that unprofessional? He signed a contract till 2012

they could have sold him for 7-8 mil in summer, they wanted 15, didn't get it.

Now they will get 2-3 mil in january or he'll walk for free

It's their decision. Poor business gamble by fiorentina, thinking they could get more money or an extension. Their loss.

I completely understand what you are saying, maybe you didn't quiet understand what I meant. what I meant by unprofessionlism from Fiorentina's management is that they know that montilvo wants to leave but instead they forced him to remain with fiorentina. Plus as you said they missed a good business deal for them by snubbing Milan deal and now they are destined to sell him for free

anilak · Sep 17, 2011

A lot of teams have done similar mistakes. Nothing unprofessional about it.

A lot of guys like Ozil, Sahin and Affeley had to be sold at very low prices to Real/Barca cos last year of contract and they did not sign extensions.

Looking at Pirlo's contributions last 2 years I would have been delighted if we didn't let him go for free and sold his ass to Chelsea when they came knocking.

ahmadkanafani · Sep 17, 2011

anilak said:
A lot of teams have done similar mistakes. Nothing unprofessional about it.

A lot of guys like Ozil, Sahin and Affeley had to be sold at very low prices to Real/Barca cos last year of contract and they did not sign extensions.

Looking at Pirlo's contributions last 2 years I would have been delighted if we didn't let him go for free and sold his ass to Chelsea when they came knocking.

you got a point, but pirlo was very attached to Milan with all those years serving the rossoneri, and don't forget that the mentality of Milan Management is never easy to get rid of players who made huge contribution to the club. so the last 2 years, pirlo was out of form but it wasn't enough to cast him out of the club. Emotions play a role in Milan Management decisions

Pedro · Sep 17, 2011

Senatore_M84 said:
Wrong.

They didn't accept offers because they didn't get any offers they liked. They should sell him for less than they want? WHY? didn't you lambast Kaka for this very thing?

So, Fiorentina gambled they could get an extension, and lost. Now they will sell him for pennies on the dollar to what they initially wanted or he'll walk for free.

It's their decision.

No one forced Montolivo to sign this contract.

Wrong what?

Did I say they should have sold him? No.

Did I say they forced Montolivo to sign a contract? No. I said they tried, which is only logical.

Of course it's their decision.

Savo · Sep 18, 2011

argue here, argue there... I don't give a rat's ass. Montolivo is coming to Milan, and that's awesome.

TavMania · Sep 18, 2011

Savo said:
argue here, argue there... I don't give a rat's ass. Montolivo is coming to Milan, and that's awesome.

you mean "...and thats final!" :proud:

MilanReality · Sep 18, 2011

I said (pre-ban) Monto wouldnt arrive this summer.
And I'll extend that to Monto not coming this Winter either...

I believe Milan will sign someone worthwhile, but don't think it'll be Montolivo... Just a gut feeling

Kalac#16 · Sep 18, 2011

Senatore_M84 said:
How is that unprofessional? He signed a contract till 2012

they could have sold him for 7-8 mil in summer, they wanted 15, didn't get it.

Now they will get 2-3 mil in january or he'll walk for free

It's their decision. Poor business gamble by fiorentina, thinking they could get more money or an extension. Their loss.

I hate situations like this, I think the clubs and players should be able to come to an agreement where the player signs a new contract on the agreement he's sold the next summer.

Contracts :thumbsdown:

sushanmilano · Sep 18, 2011

MilanReality said:
I said (pre-ban) Monto wouldnt arrive this summer.
And I'll extend that to Monto not coming this Winter either...

I believe Milan will sign someone worthwhile, but don't think it'll be Montolivo... Just a gut feeling

Well, a lot of our midfielders are old. Van bommel, rino, clarence, ambro. Eventually we'll have to replace all of them . We wont be signing 4 top class players nor will we be signing players at one go. Montolivo for 3 million in the winter or sth will be a fucking fantastic deal . We will even have 6 months to integrate him to the squad slowly . We may sign someone really good next summer but in the meantime we cant ignore these great deals which builds our squad for the long term.

khuyag · Sep 18, 2011

free transfer = high wage
no more flamini

NIRossoneri · Sep 18, 2011

Kalac#16 said:
I hate situations like this, I think the clubs and players should be able to come to an agreement where the player signs a new contract on the agreement he's sold the next summer.

Contracts

A contract like that wouldn't work and is entirely unnecessary, The club have had years to try and get him to sign a new contract, waiting until he is in the last year of his contract after he has already stated his desire to leave is a stupid thing to do, of course he isn't gunna sign an extension and now the club faces selling him on the cheap in winter or having the player enter into a pre agreement with another club and losing him in the summer for free.

melanman · Sep 18, 2011

If we end up paying around 15M for Aqua, monto, and norino. essentially 3(new crop) azzuri players.

That would be a master stroke by Galliani.

Polotelli · Sep 18, 2011

melanman said:
If we end up paying around 15M for Aqua, monto, and norino. essentially 3(new crop) azzuri players.

That would be a master stroke by Galliani.

3 for Noce
6 for Aquilani
0 for Monty

total 9M

Gio · Sep 18, 2011

melanman said:
If we end up paying around 15M for Aqua, monto, and norino. essentially 3(new crop) azzuri players.

That would be a master stroke by Galliani.

And then (if only) DDR, then you got Italia midfield for the next 3-4 years playing as one, can only be good.

Blade of Faith · Sep 18, 2011

Yes, Yes, sign more Italian! :star:

Senatore_M84 · Sep 18, 2011

Giova21 said:
And then (if only) DDR, then you got Italia midfield for the next 3-4 years playing as one, can only be good.

can you imagine if DDR came for free and montolivo for like 3 mil in january. 9 mil combine for montolivo, aquilani, ddr.

That'd be unfair.

That combo is the makings of an awesome midfield.

MilanSpecialist · Sep 18, 2011

Senatore_M84 said:
can you imagine if DDR came for free and montolivo for like 3 mil in january. 9 mil combine for montolivo, aquilani, ddr.

That'd be unfair.

That combo is the makings of an awesome midfield.

True story but I would just take the Monty,aquilani combo in our midfield..them playing on the NT together and then playing in the league on the same team would be great..added with boateng would be sick..

Ash · Sep 18, 2011

Senatore_M84 said:
can you imagine if DDR came for free and montolivo for like 3 mil in january. 9 mil combine for montolivo, aquilani, ddr.

That'd be unfair.

That combo is the makings of an awesome midfield.

Aquilani

Nocerino - De Rossi - Montolivo

All Italian and pretty good if I say so myself

benjamin · Sep 18, 2011

Ash said:
Aquilani

Nocerino - De Rossi - Montolivo

All Italian and pretty good if I say so myself

With this lineup, I can do with Boateng on the bench! Italians FTW!

Fiore · Sep 18, 2011

Pollo said:
3 for Noce

Where did you got this number ? He was signed for 500 thousand plus half of the rights of Ricardo Ferreira.

Benz_1803 · Sep 18, 2011

monty contribution for isla's goal :fp:

melanman · Sep 18, 2011

Benz_1803 said:
monty contribution for isla's goal

looked like he was playing dm, tacticly thats asking for trouble.

Sven · Sep 18, 2011

Read in some Brazilian sources that Arsenal did find an agreement for him to January.

joyrider · Sep 18, 2011

Sven said:
Read in some Brazilian sources that Arsenal did find an agreement for him to January.

NOOOO not arsenal

SpartanMilan · Sep 18, 2011

maybe offer Urby for him in January?

Sod-Lod · Sep 18, 2011

We need him for sure.

BrasilianMilan · Sep 19, 2011

Montolivo is definitely needed in our midfield, forget about the others (ie Seedorf) we need Nocerino-MVB-Aqua (or Prince) and Montolivo!

Falkryr · Sep 19, 2011

joyirider said:
NOOOO not arsenal

No way anyone would choose Loosenal over Milan :lol:

Sod-Lod · Sep 20, 2011

Tuesday 20 September, 2011 Blog: A fine Montolivo mess

Riccardo Montolivo and Fiorentina are going through an ugly public divorce. Giancarlo Rinaldi offers counselling

When a relationship turns sour it is rarely a comfortable thing. Awkward silences, accusing glances and bitter recrimination are usually the order of the day. And things are getting that kind of messy between Fiorentina and Riccardo Montolivo.

This was the summer of the great transfer-that-never-was. The former Viola skipper let it be known that he would not be signing a new contract and wanted to consider other offers. The trouble was, they never came or they failed to meet the club's aspirations.

At first, it looked like they might come to some kind of uneasy compromise. A new contract was in the air until patience ran out with the apparently want-away star. Fiorentina officials finally threw up their hands in despair like an Italian Mamma when her boy won't eat his pasta.

A decent opening day win over Bologna papered over the cracks, but a disappointing display in Udine let the jeers commence. Sinisa Mihajlovic chose to play his troubled star despite his "difficult" situation. The travelling Tuscan support were much less forgiving.

It's a shame that things have come to this. Montolivo has been a fine servant of the club and put in some memorable performances over the years. Unfortunately, whether it is true or not, the perception is that his mind is firmly on pastures new every time he takes to the pitch. An unwilling assist for an Udinese goal on Sunday did little to help his cause.

Many in Florence believe he already has a deal - or a promise of one - lined up for January, leaving the Florentine outfit with a conundrum. Do you play a man who is an undoubted talent but will probably move to one of your rivals in the not-too-distant future? Most supporters believe the answer should be no.

The atmosphere has now become more poisonous than some deadly woodland mushroom. Some think the player has been shabbily treated after years of outstanding service. Others reckon that he should be left to rot in the stands until his contract runs out.

The trouble is that neither making him play nor putting him in internal exile seems like any kind of answer. It seems a shame to deprive him of the chance to play football - but what kind of performances can he turn in for a club he hopes to leave? It all makes for pretty sordid viewing.

Maybe he can be given out on loan or some kind of peace can be restored - although that seems unlikely. Instead, the frosty relationship between player, club and supporters looks likely to be maintained. It could be an awfully long time until January for everyone concerned.

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