Week 12: Milan vs Juventus 11/11/2018 20:30 CET

necromancer · Nov 9, 2018

Higuain trained with the team today.

It's time to

rocknrolla1v1 · Nov 9, 2018

Who's playing man on man defense w/ Ronaldo

Roman? Mussachio?

RR can handle Cuadrado. A little worried about our right side

rocknrolla1v1 · Nov 9, 2018

2-1 Milan Victory

Higuain and Suso score

& B.S. Ronaldo penalty

b@D~HorsiE · Nov 9, 2018

I want an ugly victory over these Zebras
Andiamooooooo!!

mato · Nov 9, 2018

So its Donnarumma; RR - Romagnoli - Zapata; Laxalt - Bakayoko - Kessie - Borini; Cutrone - Higuain - Suso???

Mexes5 · Nov 9, 2018

Play to win please, no repeat of that Inter shit.

milanista_ · Nov 9, 2018

Don't expect us to win this at all. It will be like the other meetings against Juventus. Trying to defend for 90 minutes, pass between defenders trying to keep 0-0 but in the end Juventus win 3-0.

The match against Lazio after this game is more important to win. That one is so important not losing if we don't want to be too far away from Lazio.

General · Nov 9, 2018

Juventus fans think CR will rape Milan

Neruda · Nov 9, 2018

rocknrolla1v1 said:
Who's playing man on man defense w/ Ronaldo

Roman? Mussachio?

RR can handle Cuadrado. A little worried about our right side

all in all pretty good line up considering ...

necromancer · Nov 10, 2018

I'd like us to play the 4-3-3, since Hakan seems ok to play? Or otherwise, even with Samu. Against Juventus, it's a great chance for Gattuso to try the fluid football that we were playing earlier in the season. Hardly anyone expects us to even get a point, so why not?

That football is possible only the way we played against Sassuolo, Olympiacos and Chievo. The 4-4-2 that got us points later on is a little more pragmatic without the aesthetically pleasing 3-men midfield short passes.

So I say we go more for the show than the pragmatism against Juventus..Since the pragmatism is not anywhere near guaranteed to get us points in this match.

And the fluid 4-3-3 with our newfound steel might actually be mature enough to take us to the next level now.

truant · Nov 10, 2018

necromancer said:
I'd like us to play the 4-3-3, since Hakan seems ok to play? Or otherwise, even with Samu. Against Juventus, it's a great chance for Gattuso to try the fluid football that we were playing earlier in the season. Hardly anyone expects us to even get a point, so why not?

That football is possible only the way we played against Sassuolo, Olympiacos and Chievo. The 4-4-2 that got us points later on is a little more pragmatic without the aesthetically pleasing 3-men midfield short passes.

So I say we go more for the show than the pragmatism against Juventus..Since the pragmatism is not anywhere near guaranteed to get us points in this match.

And the fluid 4-3-3 with our newfound steel might actually be mature enough to take us to the next level now.

So:
Gigio; Calabria, Zapata, Ale, RR; Kessie, Bakayoko, Laxalt; Suso, Higuain, Hakan/Samu

I agree that we were more fluid and played a lot more attractively with the 4-3-3. And it makes sense that we might as well go for broke because we are at a big disadvantage in this match due to the injury crisis.

However, my worry is Bakayoko who seems serviceable in a double pivot but suffers in any other formation. I don't think he would be able to cope. I also don't think we'd be able to play the kind of football from earlier this season without Biglia (or a new regista).

I'm also a bit concered about one of my new favourites Laxalt who was not in top form against Udinese and was pretty poor against Betis. Laxalt may find it harder playing as a mezzala.

Khurrisu · Nov 10, 2018

Kessie gonna have to drop deeper to help with Cristiano/Mandzu. I sense Calabria/Abate will be destroyed, but I am hoping for the best. Samu will also have to drop deeper considering how shit our left side is. I don't predict an offensive match for us, just hoping Samu and Suso don't fuck up counters like they usually do.

truant · Nov 10, 2018

That gap between RB/RWB and RCB has been a problem all season so far. Even this past week Betis and Udinese exploited it but could not get shots on target, otherwise we may have lost both matches.

vidarth · Nov 10, 2018

Very rough fixture for us....

Hoping for the best. Abate doesn't inspire any confidence.

Hitchens · Nov 10, 2018

If we win this Rino deserves a statue.

I saw a line up recently that didn't look horrible.

Gigio
Calabria-Zapata-Romagnoli-RicRod
Suso-Kessie-Bakayoko-Laxalt
Higuain-Samu

This group can easily deliver a strong match. We're in fight stance anyhow.

Pingu · Nov 10, 2018

I think 442 is the way to go here considering injuries and Hakan not 100%, no point risking him. Just hope Kessie is fully fit since we'll definitely need him to be on point for this game.

A bit worried about Calabria/Zapata side of things as it seems to be our weak side. Then again, nobody expects us to take any points so lets show them!

Donato · Nov 10, 2018

The line up isn’t horrible and I’d argue that Samu could be more useful than Cutrone in this game. Cutrone doesn’t need many touches in this game to be effective, however i feel Samu has a real moment or two of brilliance in him.

I do have a couple of concerns over the predicted starting line up though.

- You’d have to think that Higuain and Kessie are both underdone in terms of fitness. There’s be no doubt in that. Playing two played underdone against a team like Juve could absolutely crucify you. Problem is we have no choice.

- Bakayoko and Kessie both lose the ball in dangerous areas, Juve can really destroy us here.

- Zapata hasn’t had a real brain fart yet, this is well and truly overdue.

- Hopefully Calabria starts over Abate.

I’m not expecting to take anything form Juve here but you never know. Hopefully we don’t have another deer in head lights moment like against Inter and actually try to attack.

Suso once again is key to our successs, if he can get Sandro on a string that’ll go a long way in getting something out of this game.

Hitchens · Nov 10, 2018

Donato said:
The line up isn’t horrible and I’d argue that Samu could be more useful than Cutrone in this game. Cutrone doesn’t need many touches in this game to be effective, however i feel Samu has a real moment or two of brilliance in him.

I do have a couple of concerns over the predicted starting line up though.

- You’d have to think that Higuain and Kessie are both underdone in terms of fitness. There’s be no doubt in that. Playing two played underdone against a team like Juve could absolutely crucify you. Problem is we have no choice.

- Bakayoko and Kessie both lose the ball in dangerous areas, Juve can really destroy us here.

- Zapata hasn’t had a real brain fart yet, this is well and truly overdue.

- Hopefully Calabria starts over Abate.

I’m not expecting to take anything form Juve here but you never know. Hopefully we don’t have another deer in head lights moment like against Inter and actually try to attack.

Suso once again is key to our successs, if he can get Sandro on a string that’ll go a long way in getting something out of this game.

Underdone?

Donato · Nov 10, 2018

Hitchens said:
Underdone?

It’s a term we use in Austrian football, means not up to 100% fitness. Probably shouldn’t have used that terminology.

Hitchens · Nov 10, 2018

Donato said:
It’s a term we use in Austrian football, means not up to 100% fitness. Probably shouldn’t have used that terminology.

Regardless, it's a point that they're not 100%, but we can't field an eleven of losers tomorrow.

We have to try to win this, and the beat Lazio as well. If we lose two in a row now I don't think we are able to get CL.

truant · Nov 10, 2018

Donato said:
The line up isn’t horrible and I’d argue that Samu could be more useful than Cutrone in this game. Cutrone doesn’t need many touches in this game to be effective, however i feel Samu has a real moment or two of brilliance in him.

I do have a couple of concerns over the predicted starting line up though.

- You’d have to think that Higuain and Kessie are both underdone in terms of fitness. There’s be no doubt in that. Playing two played underdone against a team like Juve could absolutely crucify you. Problem is we have no choice.

- Bakayoko and Kessie both lose the ball in dangerous areas, Juve can really destroy us here.

- Zapata hasn’t had a real brain fart yet, this is well and truly overdue.

- Hopefully Calabria starts over Abate.

I’m not expecting to take anything form Juve here but you never know. Hopefully we don’t have another deer in head lights moment like against Inter and actually try to attack.

Suso once again is key to our successs, if he can get Sandro on a string that’ll go a long way in getting something out of this game.

Great post. I agree about Castillejo - I have been very much encouraged by what I have seen so far. Keeping in mind he is still adapting to the league.

So far in the last four games we have managed to grind out results despite uneven performances. I hope we can dig deep for a positive result here.

Neruda · Nov 10, 2018

This Juventus is beatable as long as we stay compact..

at the end of the day Allegri is coaching them :lol:

Il grande Milan · Nov 10, 2018

Donato said:
The line up isn’t horrible and I’d argue that Samu could be more useful than Cutrone in this game. Cutrone doesn’t need many touches in this game to be effective, however i feel Samu has a real moment or two of brilliance in him.

I do have a couple of concerns over the predicted starting line up though.

- You’d have to think that Higuain and Kessie are both underdone in terms of fitness. There’s be no doubt in that. Playing two played underdone against a team like Juve could absolutely crucify you. Problem is we have no choice.

- Bakayoko and Kessie both lose the ball in dangerous areas, Juve can really destroy us here.

- Zapata hasn’t had a real brain fart yet, this is well and truly overdue.

- Hopefully Calabria starts over Abate.

I’m not expecting to take anything form Juve here but you never know. Hopefully we don’t have another deer in head lights moment like against Inter and actually try to attack.

Suso once again is key to our successs, if he can get Sandro on a string that’ll go a long way in getting something out of this game.

i'd play abate over calabria any day of the week versus juventus. Calabria clearly lacks experience against big teams, which is one of the most important things in this game, we lack quality against them, so we need to compensate somewhere else.. don't underestimate the power of experience.

The Philosopher · Nov 10, 2018

I'd be really surprised if Gattuso doesn't park the bus.

Then in the post match press conference he'll say we need to play with less fear.

necromancer · Nov 10, 2018

truant said:
So:
Gigio; Calabria, Zapata, Ale, RR; Kessie, Bakayoko, Laxalt; Suso, Higuain, Hakan/Samu

I agree that we were more fluid and played a lot more attractively with the 4-3-3. And it makes sense that we might as well go for broke because we are at a big disadvantage in this match due to the injury crisis.

However, my worry is Bakayoko who seems serviceable in a double pivot but suffers in any other formation. I don't think he would be able to cope. I also don't think we'd be able to play the kind of football from earlier this season without Biglia (or a new regista).

I'm also a bit concered about one of my new favourites Laxalt who was not in top form against Udinese and was pretty poor against Betis. Laxalt may find it harder playing as a mezzala.

Laxalt as a mezz'ala is my worry as well. He doesn't have Bonaventura's capability to run into space at the right time. On the other hand, he could go wide while RicRod runs into central areas while attacking. Lines him up for a shot.

Bakayoko, I'm not worried about. He has put in 3 good performances on the trot. Betis was his toughest test in terms of the number of smooth passing players in their midfield, and he did very well. He clearly does better when he has more space between his teammates as in a 2-man midfield. With narrower spaces, he doesn't have the smooth technique that's required for shorter passes while moving up the ball. But as Gattuso said, he brings in the element of winning high balls, so that's one other dimension. I dunno, I see the potential problems, but I'm confident in Bakayoko.

General · Nov 10, 2018

The Philosopher said:
I'd be really surprised if Gattuso doesn't park the bus.

Then in the post match press conference he'll say we need to play with less fear.

Please troll in the commode. Not the match thread

MarioReality · Nov 10, 2018

unfortunately it will be a draw. because we really should be winning this one.

truant · Nov 10, 2018

necromancer said:
Laxalt as a mezz'ala is my worry as well. He doesn't have Bonaventura's capability to run into space at the right time. On the other hand, he could go wide while RicRod runs into central areas while attacking. Lines him up for a shot.

Bakayoko, I'm not worried about. He has put in 3 good performances on the trot. Betis was his toughest test in terms of the number of smooth passing players in their midfield, and he did very well. He clearly does better when he has more space between his teammates as in a 2-man midfield. With narrower spaces, he doesn't have the smooth technique that's required for shorter passes while moving up the ball. But as Gattuso said, he brings in the element of winning high balls, so that's one other dimension. I dunno, I see the potential problems, but I'm confident in Bakayoko.

Seems to make sense that Gattuso could use Laxalt and RR that way. With a packed San Siro behind them, I'm hopeful the boys will pull it off, Bakayoko included.

I'm also hoping Juventus are shaken because of their midweek loss. Maybe a loss on Sunday night will give them something further to think about in terms of their whole season.

sheva-pippo · Nov 11, 2018

I just want higuain to score and I know it's gonna be a tough match with injuries and what not but I'm optimistic and hoping for a tough fight from the boys.

Forza Milan.

truant · Nov 11, 2018

According to CM Bonucci might not be playing tonight and Benatia is starting instead.

I wonder what that is all about.

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