English Premier League Thread II

Plz guys go easy on Ashley......if you continue to report he's a fuckin diver, well.....barca might sign him !

manutd fan said:

It's been too long since this was posted:

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I love it how the Pool fans don't mind admitting most dives..but when it comes to the 05 CL final(their proudest moment of the last decades), which was one of the most obvious ones, nah Gattuso kicked him, nah it was the other guy who tackled, nah both of them did, they pushed him, 100% clear penalty.

Actually, Pool fans defend all of those. It's been posted on RAWK about 50 times by trolling United fans

manutd fan said:

Actually, Pool fans defend all of those. It's been posted on RAWK about 50 times by trolling United fans

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Some of them do, maybe the majority, but a lot of those I've heard/read from don't.

There was an even better video with about 20 dives (also a gif of it) called "Gerrard the starfish", but so many Liverpool fans flagged it that youtube took the video down.

Anyway, it's the 20th anniversary of the EPL next season so there's an awards ceremony happening soon.

Best EPL 11 nominees:

Best goalkeeper: Petr Cech, Brad Friedel, Shay Given, Joe Hart, David James, Pepe Reina, Peter Schmeichel, Mark Schwarzer, David Seaman, Edwin van der Sar

Best right-back: Warren Barton, Stephen Carr, Lee Dixon, Glen Johnson, Rob Jones, Gary Kelly, Gary Neville, Dan Petrescu, Micah Richards, Bacary Sagna

Best left-back: John Arne Riise, Leighton Baines, Gaël Clichy, Ashley Cole, Patrice Evra, Ian Harte, Denis Irwin, Graeme Le Saux, Stuart Pearce, Nigel Winterburn

Best central defender: Tony Adams, Steve Bruce, Sol Campbell, Jamie Carragher, Marcel Desailly, Rio Ferdinand, Paul McGrath, Jaap Stam, John Terry, Nemanja Vidic

Best right midfielder: Darren Anderton, David Beckham, Joe Cole, Andrei Kanchelskis, Aaron Lennon, Freddie Ljungberg, Steve McManaman, Cristiano Ronaldo, Steve Stone, Ashley Young

Best left midfielder: Gareth Bale, John Barnes, Damien Duff, Ryan Giggs, David Ginola, Harry Kewell, Marc Overmars, Robert Pires, Arjen Robben, David Silva

Best central midfielder: Cesc Fábregas, Steven Gerrard, Paul Ince, Roy Keane, Frank Lampard, Matt Le Tissier, Claude Makelélé, Emmanuel Petit, Paul Scholes, Patrick Vieira

Best forward: Dennis Bergkamp, Eric Cantona, Andrew Cole, Robbie Fowler, Thierry Henry, Wayne Rooney, Alan Shearer, Ruud van Nistelrooy, Ian Wright, Gianfranco Zola

Other awards:

The panel will decide on:

Best Player
Best Manager
Best Team
Best Season
Most Memorable Quote

The public vote will recognise:

Best Goal
Best Match
Best Save
Best Goal Celebration

There are also three fact-based awards:

Most player appearances
Most goals
Most clean sheets

joe hart is in it? GTFO

Best goalkeeper: Peter Schmeichel

Best right back: Lee Dixon

Best left back: Ashley Cole

Best central defender: Sol Campbell

Best right midfielder: Cristiano Ronaldo

Best left midfielder: Ryan Giggs

Best central midfielder: Paul Scholes

Best forward: Theirry Henry

The Premiership 10 seasons awards went as follows:

Homegrown best 11:
---------------Seaman-------------
Neville-----Adams---Bruce---Pearce
Beckham--Scholes---Ince----Giggs
-----------Shearer--Owen---------

Best foreign 11:
--------------Schmiechel---------
Petrescu--Desailly------Stam--Irwin
Ljunberg---Vieira-------Keane--Pires
----------Cantona----Henry-------

Best overall 11:
---------Schmiechel--------
Neville---Adams--Desailly---Irwin
Beckham-Vieira---Scholes--Giggs
--------Shearer---Cantona----

Shearer was named Domestic Player Of The Year
Cantona was named Overseas Player Of The Year

Goal of the decade: Beckham vs Wimbledon (half way line goal)
Save of the decade: Schmeichel vs Newcastle in 95/96
Match of the decade was Liverpool 4-3 Newcastle in 95/96
Quote of the decade: "I will love it if we beat them, love it" - Keegan
Picture of the decade: Owen after missing a chance
Manager of the decade: Fergie
Contribution to the community - Lucas Radebe

Most appearences: Garry Speed
Most clean sheets: David Seaman
Most coaching appearences: Fergie
Top scorer: Shearer

Much more detail here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premier_League_10_Seasons_Awards

Seriously? NO CRISTIANO RONALDO?!

Dude won a balon dor and was leading scorer on a treble team. 3 straight league titles..... exactly how many epl players have won balon dors in this era?


IF you're talking best foreign epl players it has to go henry, cantona, ronaldo (no particular order). Each had huge influence on league and it's growth.

But to not put him in best 11 is a joke.


MY best EPL 11 which would probably stretch to mid90s-ish.....

Van Der Saar
Neville--Rio--Stam--Cole
Vieira--Scholes--Giggs
Ronaldo--Shearer--Henry

the awards are based on the 1992-2002 seasons

Sage said:

the awards are based on the 1992-2002 seasons

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Why is Henry and Ljundberg in there?

Both their best years were after 2002. Vieira potentially too...

Ronaldo is the best ever player in the Premiership, though his 'peak' was only two, maybe 3 years so Henry should win best player IMO, though it wouldn't suprise me if Shearer won best striker. Really wouldn't suprise me if Terry won best defender and Gerrard won best midfielder either.

Senatore_M84 said:

Why is Henry and Ljundberg in there?

Both their best years were after 2002. Vieira potentially too...

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?

ljundberg's best ever season was the 2001-2002 season, henry entered beast mode as soon as he arrived.

Senatore_M84 said:

Why is Henry and Ljundberg in there?

Both their best years were after 2002. Vieira potentially too...

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Nah Vieira and Petit formed is amazing partnership around 98. He remained at that level until he left tbh.

Sage said:

Best goalkeeper: Peter Schmeichel

Best right back: Lee Dixon

Best left back: Ashley Cole

Best central defender: Sol Campbell

Best right midfielder: Cristiano Ronaldo

Best left midfielder: Ryan Giggs

Best central midfielder: Paul Scholes

Best forward: Theirry Henry

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Nope.

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yep, no contest.

Senatore_M84 said:

Seriously? NO CRISTIANO RONALDO?!

Dude won a balon dor and was leading scorer on a treble team. 3 straight league titles..... exactly how many epl players have won balon dors in this era?


IF you're talking best foreign epl players it has to go henry, cantona, ronaldo (no particular order). Each had huge influence on league and it's growth.

But to not put him in best 11 is a joke.


MY best EPL 11 which would probably stretch to mid90s-ish.....

Van Der Saar
Neville--Rio--Stam--Cole
Vieira--Scholes--Giggs
Ronaldo--Shearer--Henry

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VDS? Really?

I love the guy - one of the all time greats, but Schmeichel was much better. VDS was better with the ball at his feet but Schmeichel was better at everything else. Couldn't ask for 2 more contrasting styles though. VDS was a calming influence who would contantly talk to the defence whilst Schmeichel was a loud prick who would start fights with his own defenders on the pitch and scare everyone shitless

TIm Tebow and barry Sanders

Sage said:

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yep, no contest.

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I think the top scorer in the history of the league has something to say about that. No contest. Shearer led Blackburn. Blackburn. to a premier league title. And lead Newcastle into his 30's. Technically not as good as Henry, but his contribution to the premier league is unrivalled.

If ManU get him, not Solsjkaer, he'd be seen as the best striker the league has seen by a way. But they didn't. And so he gets thrown into the same category as Cantona who quite frankly isn't anywhere near his standard.

manutd fan said:

VDS? Really?

I love the guy - one of the all time greats, but Schmeichel was much better. VDS was better with the ball at his feet but Schmeichel was better at everything else. Couldn't ask for 2 more contrasting styles though. VDS was a calming influence who would contantly talk to the defence whilst Schmeichel was a loud prick who would start fights with his own defenders on the pitch and scare everyone shitless

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Seaman>VDS too. As far as time in the league goes.

Don't kid yourself about Blackburn Kalac. They were the first sugar daddy club of the EPL era. Plus, they only won the friggin league because Cantona got banned

Kalac#16 said:

I think the top scorer in the history of the league has something to say about that. No contest. Shearer led Blackburn. Blackburn. to a premier league title. And lead Newcastle into his 30's. Technically not as good as Henry, but his contribution to the premier league is unrivalled.

If ManU get him, not Solsjkaer, he'd be seen as the best striker the league has seen by a way. But they didn't. And so he gets thrown into the same category as Cantona who quite frankly isn't anywhere near his standard.

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agree to disagree, henry was a complete forward.

holy shit I just imagined a Cantona-Shearer strike partnership

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henry - bergkamp is better


cantona is possibly the most overrated player in history

HD, ban this prick please.

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henry - bergkamp is better


cantona is possibly the most overrated player in history

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manutd fan said:

Don't kid yourself about Blackburn Kalac. They were the first sugar daddy club of the EPL era. Plus, they only won the friggin league because Cantona got banned

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They also wouldn't have done it without him.
Nobody is yet to even come close, Cole is 73 goals away. Henry almost 100. How people can dismiss him is crazy.

Sage said:

agree to disagree, henry was a complete forward.

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Complete forward, yes. But this isn't about the most talented players otherwise Veron would be on that list, but he isn't.

Cantona was a very good striker.... Not Shearer, Henry, Bergkamp good, but just below that tier - however, his influence on man utd was immeasurable.... it's hard to describe, but he managed to be the last piece of a jigsaw, yet, in doing so flipped over all the other pieces to make an even better picture

Sage said:

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ljundberg's best ever season was the 2001-2002 season, henry entered beast mode as soon as he arrived.

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Maybe... but ljundbergs best consistent form was after 2002.

Anyway, if it's pre-2002, I'm not sure he deserves best foreign 11. Heck I'm not sure he deserves it period. Not a bad player though.

Henry's best years were def post 2002

manutd fan said:

VDS? Really?

I love the guy - one of the all time greats, but Schmeichel was much better. VDS was better with the ball at his feet but Schmeichel was better at everything else. Couldn't ask for 2 more contrasting styles though. VDS was a calming influence who would contantly talk to the defence whilst Schmeichel was a loud prick who would start fights with his own defenders on the pitch and scare everyone shitless

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Truthfully I don't remember much Shmeichel. Couldn't put him in... same goes for Cantona.

hdcantona said:

Cantona was a very good striker.... Not Shearer, Henry, Bergkamp good, but just below that tier - however, his influence on man utd was immeasurable.... it's hard to describe, but he managed to be the last piece of a jigsaw, yet, in doing so flipped over all the other pieces to make an even better picture

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yeah, he got you guys nike sponsorship deals, big whoop

Kalac#16 said:

They also wouldn't have done it without him.
Nobody is yet to even come close, Cole is 73 goals away. Henry almost 100. How people can dismiss him is crazy.


Complete forward, yes. But this isn't about the most talented players otherwise Veron would be on that list, but he isn't.

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yes, but shearer played for 5-6 more seasons.


and you're talking like henry achieved fuck all when you bring up veron, henry was the most explosive player in the history of the PL, he would score/create out of nothing.


shearer was a great player, but it's like saying raul is better than ronaldo.