Marco Van Ginkel Thread

Curupira · Jan 8, 2013

I enjoy Belgian beer in general

Goodfella · Jan 8, 2013

Is this getting overhyped because of Nocegoals?

Qaas · Jan 9, 2013

looks like justin bieber, just sayin'

Soldier_of_god · Jan 9, 2013

we should make a rule that no poster can open threads for players we cant afford. Its fucking annoying cuz we never get the players we as fans desire. Berlu says we are ungrateful eh, fucking fat midget slob wastes his cash on some underage prostitute bullshit and blames us for not giving him a chance. We are milan u sond of a bitch, spend or GTFO. 6 years of mediocrity was made better by winning the league in 2010 but we still somehow manage to dismantle our team yet again, this really has to sop, if u cant afford to buy new players atleast dont sell the very few stars we have (we have no star player atm btw except SES and maybe montolivo).

USC · Jan 9, 2013

If Van Ginkel comes here, I will buy each and every one of you a hat.

*editor's note...hat purchase to be completed by the year 2165

RossoneroTifoso · Jan 9, 2013

USC said:
If Van Ginkel comes here, I will buy each and every one of you a hat.

*editor's note...hat purchase to be completed by the year 2165

Ooooooo what sort of hat? And how will this work? Like something you put in your will?

zizousama · Jan 9, 2013

USC said:
If Van Ginkel comes here, I will buy each and every one of you a hat.

*editor's note...hat purchase to be completed by the year 2165

With no obligation to follow through of course, Milan style.

jammin · Jan 9, 2013

Can I get a crown? I mean, both crowns and hats are head-wear so...

Soldier_of_god · Jan 9, 2013

USC said:
If Van Ginkel comes here, I will buy each and every one of you a hat.

*editor's note...hat purchase to be completed by the year 2165

is he really as good as what people here make him out to be? i am just surprised people actually watch dutch league, no offense meant to any dutch followers. Setanta or neo sports never broadcast them so i am assuming people living outside europe only watched him play for the national team or so, i.e if he actually made it.

Rino · Jan 9, 2013

milan_swagger said:
is he really as good as what people here make him out to be? i am just surprised people actually watch dutch league, no offense meant to any dutch followers. Setanta or neo sports never broadcast them so i am assuming people living outside europe only watched him play for the national team or so, i.e if he actually made it.

There is not one player as good as people here make of them, not one.

And Certainly not this lad, you people act like he's friggin David Silva and will come and save us from our shamefull 7th league spot...The guy is barely 18 and just sniffin' at the wonderfull world of football, being slightly talented in one if the shitiest leagues of western europe.

USC · Jan 9, 2013

As I wrote before, Van Ginkel is one of the most talented players that I have seen in a long time...but his development could go the way of many youngsters: stratospheric or an absolute train wreck. I don't trust Milan to develop him at all.

Mion-Moura · Jan 9, 2013

bye bye??we got saponara

Master Smurf · Jan 9, 2013

USC said:
As I wrote before, Van Ginkel is one of the most talented players that I have seen in a long time...but his development could go the way of many youngsters: stratospheric or an absolute train wreck. I don't trust Milan to develop him at all.

If he is that good then he should be purchased no matter what (like Mastour) unless the asking price is obscene.

Us developing him? cant worry about those things anymore, we just need to try our best and besides all the senatores who blocked giving youngsters a chance are gone.

R&B Milan · Jan 9, 2013

He can easily adapt to central midfield.

tkosse · Jan 9, 2013

I see him play nearly every week. Trust me, he is no AC Milan level.

achtungbaby · Jan 11, 2013

tkosse said:
I see him play nearly every week. Trust me, he is no AC Milan level.

and what is that these days?

Dutch_ACM · Jan 11, 2013

AC_Wesley said:
Buy and loan to Vitesse

That's what i've been saying!
But if we really want to go for talent we should take van Ginkel,, a but safer option and definently a player that can improve us immediatly is Strootman

Rino · Jan 11, 2013

tkosse said:
I see him play nearly every week. Trust me, he is no AC Milan level.

This.

It's embarassing a player of his level get's an own thread in our transfer section...if we buy him he'll be the Mesbah of midfield.

RossoneroTifoso · Jan 11, 2013

Your really going to compare and 18 year old to mesbah...?

:fp:

Rino · Jan 11, 2013

RossoneroTifoso said:
Your really going to compare and 18 year old to mesbah...?

What I'm saying is IF he'll come it will become obvious he has no future at Milan and we will want to get rid of him again asap.

RossoneroTifoso · Jan 11, 2013

Rino said:
What I'm saying is IF he'll come it will become obvious he has no future at Milan and we will want to get rid of him again asap.

He's that bad? Our standards aren't exactly high at the moment?

Rino · Jan 11, 2013

RossoneroTifoso said:
He's that bad? Our standards aren't exactly high at the moment?

Our standards should be extremly high as we have a sucky team atm and when B desides to finally spend something it HAS to be a DIRECT improvement. If we bought a "Van Ginkel" back in 2006 or 2007 it'd be better as he can be brought slowly, learn from the top players we had back than for his position and perhaps be loaned out. If we buy him now B+G will want him to actually stand up and bring the team something extra. Therefor he isn't good enough for us atm.

Pedro · Jan 11, 2013

Rino said:
Our standards should be extremly high as we have a sucky team atm and when B desides to finally spend something it HAS to be a DIRECT improvement. If we bought a "Van Ginkel" back in 2006 or 2007 it'd be better as he can be brought slowly, learn from the top players we had back than for his position and perhaps be loaned out. If we buy him now B+G will want him to actually stand up and bring the team something extra. Therefor he isn't good enough for us atm.

Yes, we totally rushed in the likes of El Shaarawy and Niang as well.

Master Smurf · Jan 11, 2013

If we had bought a player like him back then he would never play and left the club already

Rino · Jan 12, 2013

Pedro said:
Yes, we totally rushed in the likes of El Shaarawy and Niang as well.

do NOT compare Van Ginkel with...can't even type it out. Just don't, seriously.

Pedro · Jan 14, 2013

Rino said:
do NOT compare Van Ginkel with...can't even type it out. Just don't, seriously.

Niang?

Probably El Shaarawy, but that makes the poins, while even he wasn't rushed in. First half season he was barely used.

achtungbaby · Jan 15, 2013

Master Smurf said:
If we had bought a player like him back then he would never play and left the club already

Much like Gourcuff or the unmistakable genius of Digao. Milan should have been bringing in young players to learn from the likes of P***o, Seedorf and company to learn from them before their time at Milan ended. Too much money was spent on the likes of Huntelaar and Ronaldinho.

The probblem for young players now at Milan is that they expected to come in and replace guys like Seedorf, Ibrahmiovic and Gattuso. Guys like el Shaarawy and de Sciglio have done a good job but it's just not going to happen easily. The fans and especially the management have to dampen expectations. We should only really be bringing these young guys in if they can get a decent amount of playing time at Milan or we can get a decent loan situation sorted out for them. Otherwise, they are just going to fall by the wayside.

Pedro · Jan 15, 2013

achtungbaby said:
Much like Gourcuff or the unmistakable genius of Digao.

Gourcuff had the talent, just not the attitude. Digão on the other hand, didn't have the talent. Van Ginkel most definitly does, and so far I have no reason to believe that he lacks the right attitude.

Master Smurf · Jan 15, 2013

Pedro said:
Gourcuff had the talent, just not the attitude. Digão on the other hand, didn't have the talent. Van Ginkel most definitly does, and so far I have no reason to believe that he lacks the right attitude.

Really this should be the determining factor at the moment.

It does no good talking about what Milan should have done 5-6 yrs ago. If he is talented and can be bought at our prices then he should be, whether he is ready to start now or in a year or two.

If he has the right attitude then all the better but after the Gourcuff and Pato situations we should now know that more care and less freedom be given and we do the best to bring the kid along.

Pedro · Jan 15, 2013

Master Smurf said:
Really this should be the determining factor at the moment.

It does no good talking about what Milan should have done 5-6 yrs ago. If he is talented and can be bought at our prices then he should be, whether he is ready to start now or in a year or two.

If he has the right attitude then all the better but after the Gourcuff and Pato situations we should now know that more care and less freedom be given and we do the best to bring the kid along.

Looking at Gourcuff is what you can do, but looking at El Shaarawy is what you can do. Both talented, but different attitudes. When it comes to attitude, I would guess Van Ginkel comes closer to El Shaarawy's than Gourcuff's. Van Ginkel already plays a very mature and all-round game.

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