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Old 18-06-2016, 23:20   #1
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This guy is being linked with us a lot lately, so it might happen
He'll be the guy that starts project ItalMilan

He likes to use the 4-3-1-2 formation

Interesting players he could bring with him

- Riccardo Saponara
- Leandro Paredes
- Piotr Zielinski
- Lorenzo Tonelli (too late)

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2010/11 - Catania - Serie A - "mutual consent" after half a season at 15th place
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2014/15 - Cremonese - Lega Pro - 8th place
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Old 19-06-2016, 15:19   #2
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Great read on Giampaolo's complex tactics & gameplan at Empoli
Team analysis: Empoli
http://spielverlagerung.com/2016/05/...alysis-empoli/
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Old 19-06-2016, 15:46   #3
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Great read on Giampaolo's complex tactics & gameplan at Empoli
Team analysis: Empoli
http://spielverlagerung.com/2016/05/...alysis-empoli/
Very good article.
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Old 19-06-2016, 15:53   #4
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“To be honest with you, the situation hasn’t changed that much. We play the same tactical formation and our training sessions are just slightly different. Giovanni Martusciello and Sarri’s former staff have remained with us, so there are no big differences to last year, at least as far as our tactic is concerned.”
After this statement i can say that he didnt do much, just continued sarri work. We need a coach like sarri, cunte, not another allegri.
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Old 19-06-2016, 17:04   #5
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Very good article.
Indeed, hats off to the guy who put in the effort to make it. The vines included in the article are also brilliant.
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Old 20-06-2016, 17:10   #6
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why him?
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Old 20-06-2016, 18:38   #7
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Great read on Giampaolo's complex tactics & gameplan at Empoli
Team analysis: Empoli
http://spielverlagerung.com/2016/05/...alysis-empoli/
Good read

But I don't like this style of play at all
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Old 20-06-2016, 19:13   #8
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no thnx
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Old 20-06-2016, 19:31   #9
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Offensive football <3
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Old 24-06-2016, 19:55   #10
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I can't wait to have him here and for us to revert back to playing good compact noughties Milan style football again.

A good regista is critical though and I hope he convinces us to sign Parades the same way Miha convinced us to splash cash on Romagnoli last season.

Parades knows the diamond system very well by now.

For younger members' benefit, Giampaolo was once touted to be one of the next great Italian coaches.. Sometime in the last decade. Capello picked him out as his heir and Juve were close to signing him.

Then he had a couple of high profile failures at Cagliari (not helped by Cellino and his style) and then at Brescia.. Where again the management used him when ultras got mad with them etc. Giampaolo does have a short fuse though.

The Empoli comeback is sort of a redemption for him. His quality is unquestionable. If he has found the habit of success again, I think this could be a great move for us.


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Old 24-06-2016, 19:58   #11
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Juve reject you say? Fucxk livfe, sell asap. Kill someone and sell the club and italshitlan.

Why fuck do we enve read forum and see milan if juve even can have and not want??!? Seson over next yr plz same shit thn again ofc...


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Old 27-06-2016, 16:27   #12
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I can't wait to have him here and for us to revert back to playing good compact noughties Milan style football again.

A good regista is critical though and I hope he convinces us to sign Parades the same way Miha convinced us to splash cash on Romagnoli last season.

Parades knows the diamond system very well by now.

For younger members' benefit, Giampaolo was once touted to be one of the next great Italian coaches.. Sometime in the last decade. Capello picked him out as his heir and Juve were close to signing him.

Then he had a couple of high profile failures at Cagliari (not helped by Cellino and his style) and then at Brescia.. Where again the management used him when ultras got mad with them etc. Giampaolo does have a short fuse though.

The Empoli comeback is sort of a redemption for him. His quality is unquestionable. If he has found the habit of success again, I think this could be a great move for us.
I swear to god youre G in real life. Theres no other explanation
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Old 13-06-2019, 20:39   #13
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Time to resurrect this thread
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Old 13-06-2019, 20:56   #14
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Thoughts on Giampaolo as our (potential) new manager?


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Old 13-06-2019, 22:06   #15
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I can't wait to have him here and for us to revert back to playing good compact noughties Milan style football again.

A good regista is critical though and I hope he convinces us to sign Parades the same way Miha convinced us to splash cash on Romagnoli last season.

Parades knows the diamond system very well by now.

For younger members' benefit, Giampaolo was once touted to be one of the next great Italian coaches.. Sometime in the last decade. Capello picked him out as his heir and Juve were close to signing him.

Then he had a couple of high profile failures at Cagliari (not helped by Cellino and his style) and then at Brescia.. Where again the management used him when ultras got mad with them etc. Giampaolo does have a short fuse though.

The Empoli comeback is sort of a redemption for him. His quality is unquestionable. If he has found the habit of success again, I think this could be a great move for us.


Damn I was such a Giampaolo lover 3 years back.


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Old 14-06-2019, 00:23   #16
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Damn I was such a Giampaolo lover 3 years back.


If he becomes a success we will make you to lord of the rumour commode
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Old 14-06-2019, 06:52   #17
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No thank you. I would like to continue in my role as disruptor of the commode.


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Old 18-06-2019, 06:07   #18
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How long until the team drops the forced, impractical 4-3-1-2?

It took 3.5 games in 2012/2013.
No more than a few preseason games in 2013/2014.
8 games in 2014-2015.


I think we'll hit a post-2012 record this time. Giampaolo has used 4-3-1-2, from start, in EVERY single game in charge of Sampdoria and Empoli, with zero exceptions. He might stick to this until he's fired, and that's probably not going to happen until at least a few months into the season.

The only hope is that he mimics Sarri once again.
Giampaolo wasn't this strongly associated with 4-3-1-2 until he replaced Sarri at Empoli, and copied him, which saved his career.
4-2-3-1 and 4-3-3 were his thing at Catania.
It's Sarri who was the 4-3-1-2 guy, and he tried to bring that over to Napoli, but he quickly realized it was impractical and shifted to a 4-3-3 that was a more advanced form of Benitez' 4-2-3-1.


Hopefully Giampaolo is as pragmatical as the guy who saved his career.
And hopefully Maldini and co aren't stupid enough to put all the eggs in one shitty basket, 4-3-1-2 in this case. It would repeat the mistakes of 2013, 2015 and 2017 summer mercati.

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Old 18-06-2019, 10:09   #19
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How long until the team drops the forced, impractical 4-3-1-2?

It took 3.5 games in 2012/2013.
No more than a few preseason games in 2013/2014.
8 games in 2014-2015.


I think we'll hit a post-2012 record this time. Giampaolo has used 4-3-1-2, from start, in EVERY single game in charge of Sampdoria and Empoli, with zero exceptions. He might stick to this until he's fired, and that's probably not going to happen until at least a few months into the season.

The only hope is that he mimics Sarri once again.
Giampaolo wasn't this strongly associated with 4-3-1-2 until he replaced Sarri at Empoli, and copied him, which saved his career.
4-2-3-1 and 4-3-3 were his thing at Catania.
It's Sarri who was the 4-3-1-2 guy, and he tried to bring that over to Napoli, but he quickly realized it was impractical and shifted to a 4-3-3 that was a more advanced form of Benitez' 4-2-3-1.


Hopefully Giampaolo is as pragmatical as the guy who saved his career.
And hopefully Maldini and co aren't stupid enough to put all the eggs in one shitty basket, 4-3-1-2 in this case. It would repeat the mistakes of 2013, 2015 and 2017 summer mercati.
you have proper players and proper team organization or not. nothing impractical in formation just by name.
we have very practical 433 right?


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Old 18-06-2019, 15:07   #20
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you have proper players and proper team organization or not. nothing impractical in formation just by name.
we have very practical 433 right?
"Forced, impractical" as in it wasn't decided based on what he had available or results.
There are few cases in Top 4 leagues where 4312 is the best choice and they typically involve rare players like Pirlo, Ibra and Suarez.
If you have already decided to go with 4312 before even being appointed, then, well.....

and looking at his results, defensive record and admittedly strong tactical effort he put in at Sampdoria with the players he had available, I can't say 4312 looked optimal for all 3 of those rosters.


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