UEFA Champions League 2016-2017

Raz · Jun 4, 2017

Goodfella said:
Better footballer? Perhaps.
Better defender than Chiellini or Barzagli? Definitely not.
Ramos is not just hot-headed, he lacks awareness to be a part of a great defense. This is no longer an imbalanced Real side with a headless EPL-esque double pivot. And yet they still can't defend deep - and it's most certainly not because of Kroos-Casemiro-Modric.

Perhaps?

He captained Real to 3 UCL trophies in the last 4 years, he's a world cup winner, double Euro cup winner, countless other trophies, scores clutch goals...
Perhaps...

Raz · Jun 4, 2017

Btw, in case anyone forgot.
Gonzalo Higuain
94 million euros
Brought him in specifically with winning the UCL in mind.
Completely invisible in the final
:lol:

General · Jun 4, 2017

Ramos is rated mostly because of his stellar offensive record.

As a defender, simply look at his discipline.

How many red cards has that guy been given?

overall- sure. I guess.

General · Jun 4, 2017

Razvalinho said:
Btw, in case anyone forgot.
Gonzalo Higuain
94 million euros
Brought him in specifically with winning the UCL in mind.
Completely invisible in the final

He played today?

Sage · Jun 4, 2017

Goodfella said:
Better footballer? Perhaps.
Better defender than Chiellini or Barzagli? Definitely not.
Ramos is not just hot-headed, he lacks awareness to be a part of a great defense. This is no longer an imbalanced Real side with a headless EPL-esque double pivot. And yet they still can't defend deep - and it's most certainly not because of Kroos-Casemiro-Modric.

chiellini has got to be the most overrated italian defender of all time.

slow, clumsy and benefits from a defensive system

oh and he's dirty AF too even though he tries to act like a nice guy on the pitch, the worst part is that he constantly gets away with it in fodder A.

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regarding ramos, completely disagree.

Raz · Jun 4, 2017

General said:
He played today?

He was on the pitch. But he didn't play :lol:

Raz · Jun 4, 2017

Sage said:
chiellini has got to be the most overrated italian defender of all time.

slow, clumsy and benefits from a defensive system

oh and he's dirty AF too even though he tries to act like a nice guy on the pitch, the worst part is the he constantly gets way with it in fodder A.

+1000

Chiellini should be getting 5 red cards per season at least in Serie A. Jube players just aren't given red cards in Serie A no matter what. They have the least red cards by quite a margin every season.

Raz · Jun 4, 2017

General said:
Ramos is rated mostly because of his stellar offensive record.

As a defender, simply look at his discipline.

How many red cards has that guy been given?

overall- sure. I guess.

His position on the pitch is defender. He is better than Jube boys in that position. The end

General · Jun 4, 2017

Razvalinho said:
His position on the pitch is defender. He is better than Jube boys in that position. The end

Well, looking at the scoreboard today, i can't really say you're wrong

Congo Powers · Jun 4, 2017

Razvalinho said:
Milan 7 UCL won
Jube 7 UCL lost

leaf · Jun 4, 2017

I should have saved my permaban moment from the JuBe forum for today...complete with a video montage on the karma for the shite penalty call they got against us this year

Congo Powers · Jun 4, 2017

is that true...they lost 7 finals??

BWAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAA

Goodfella · Jun 4, 2017

Razvalinho said:
Perhaps?

He captained Real to 3 UCL trophies in the last 4 years, he's a world cup winner, double Euro cup winner, countless other trophies, scores clutch goals...
Perhaps...

The ADD CBs are the last ones to thank for Spain's/Barca NT's 2008-12 success.
Ramos has improved as a footballer and a defender since then, and yet Spain has done the complete opposite, turning into complete shit after Xavi's and Casillas' decline. He only became the captain in the 2016 Euro where they were knocked out by BBC's Italy with players such as Giaccherini, Eder and Pelle. Ramos is the best goal scorer between them, no doubts about that, but Chiellini was the only CB to score in that game.

As for Real's success, his late goals have definitely played a huge part in those, but why have so many of them been equalizers? Why do they rarely keep a clean sheet, even against fodder teams?

I'd take the Barzagli/Chiellini type any day over Ramos/Luiz - well except finals. Not every team has CR & co to save you in the final 30 mins.

Raz · Jun 4, 2017

Congo Powers said:
is that true...they lost 7 finals??

BWAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAA

7 Ls
Try to count them out loud one by one
One...
Two...
Three...
Four...
Five...
Six...
Seven...

Raz · Jun 4, 2017

goodfella said:
the add cbs are the last ones to thank for spain's/barca nt's 2008-12 success.
Ramos has improved as a footballer and a defender since then, and yet spain has done the complete opposite, turning into complete shit after xavi's and casillas' decline. He only became the captain in the 2016 euro where they were knocked out by bbc's italy with players such as giaccherini, eder and pelle. Ramos is the best goal scorer between them, no doubts about that, but chiellini was the only cb to score in that game.

as for real's success, his late goals have definitely played a huge part in those, but why have so many of them been equalizers? Why do they rarely keep a clean sheet, even against fodder teams?

I'd take the barzagli/chiellini type any day over ramos/luiz - well except finals. Not every team has cr & co to save you in the final 30 mins.

k

General · Jun 4, 2017

leaf said:
I should have saved my permaban moment from the JuBe forum for today...complete with a video montage on the karma for the shite penalty call they got against us this year

You can Vlog about it

MilanShion · Jun 4, 2017

As I said, fantastic player but lacks in the defending department, Spain and Madrid as well as Barca have been lucky that their midfield is heads and shoulders above the rest and gives the defense extra protection.

Raz · Jun 4, 2017

Widest margin loss since Porto beat Monaco 3-0 in 2004

Most goals conceded since Milan beat Barcelona 4-0 in 1994

Also have to go back to 1994 for last bigger margin loss and all the way back to 1962 for more goals conceded when Benfica beat Real 5-3

:lol:

dude · Jun 4, 2017

ForzaSandro said:
Pirlo and Perrota were most crucial for Italy. Well, plus Matrix. Gattuso was better than Pirlo at doing Gattuso's job and it ends there.

Perotta

Pirlo was outperformed by Rino throughout that competition

Congo Powers · Jun 4, 2017

Razvalinho said:
7 Ls
Try to count them out loud one by one
One...
Two...
Three...
Four...
Five...
Six...
Seven...

Sage · Jun 4, 2017

Razvalinho said:
7 Ls
Try to count them out loud one by one
One...
Two...
Three...
Four...
Five...
Six...
Seven...

Razvalinho said:
Widest margin loss since Porto beat Monaco 3-0 in 2004

Most goals conceded since Milan beat Barcelona 4-0 in 1994

Also have to go back to 1994 for last bigger margin loss and all the way back to 1962 for more goals conceded when Benfica beat Real 5-3

Rickaka · Jun 4, 2017

Qaas said:
Are these guys for real? HAHAHHAH!!

They posted this after the game had ended 4-1 to Real?

bit cucky

Rickaka · Jun 4, 2017

Albertini said:
why is that weird?

either real win or juve. only one solution indirectly benefits the team we all supposedly support.

Dawn · Jun 4, 2017

Man I love reading this thread. So happy those ladri scum lost today lolllllllllllllllllllllllll

Jasper · Jun 4, 2017

Dawn said:

(should've thought of that myself)

Jasper · Jun 4, 2017

permabanme said:
Is it possible to overdose on glee?

Congo Powers · Jun 4, 2017

Dawn said:

Arsene · Jun 4, 2017

Higuain has been a flop. Juve bought him to do it in the CL. They didnt need him for Seria A.......so for 90- million you would expect him to do something today. I was so close to betting on him scoring thinking no way he can flop again until my friend told me once a choker....always a choker

Sage · Jun 4, 2017

Ash · Jun 4, 2017

dude said:
To be honest I would rather Buffon won it tonight instead of Real breaking our back-to-back record
I hate Jube but I love Milan more and Real breaking our record sucks

They didnt break anything

They equalled it

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