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Old 02-06-2015, 03:15   #18261
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I bet it was Casillas who leaked it lmao
I say him and ramos... hate that prick.


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I say him and ramos... hate that prick.
Dunno about Ramos but Casillas is a bitch so he's suspect
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And how many times did Pirla attempt to score a FK? Cuz I remember he went years without scoring one
Would those same years coincidently the same years as when this guy was here...



and how many attempts did Pirlo try in all those years.... something tells me it wasn't 56

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A little bit of swerve, a pinch of yaw, a bouquet garni of knuckle and a soup?on of pitch ? as Thierry Henry put it: ?Pirlo is that good, I think he meant to hit the crossbar??

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And how many times did Pirla attempt to score a FK? Cuz I remember he went years without scoring one
leave it alone. Pirlo fans are unstoppable
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Exactly. When the situation is tough he should ask for the ball more and be the one who steps up to try to make something out of nothing. He doesn't have that demanding factor (or garra as we Spanish speaking South Americans say) because he has not played in Argentina as a professional nor in a mid-table team like Tevez or Suarez has. It's in those teams where you learn everything is on the line and you become a very resilient player. Maradona acquired it when he played in Argentinos Juniors who went from battling relegation to battling for a Argentinian championship with him. The final is where you leave everything on the line. It would have been easier for Argentina had Di Maria been fit to play but he wasn't and Messi should have stepped up seeing as the forwards missed several chances to score. Higuain's miss was the worst one since he let the ball bounce for too long before he shot it He could have easily carried it forward to get a better shot.Well I say Maradona is more skilled for several reasons. Maradona could pull a rabona as an accurate pass and a goal attempt from out of nowhere. Maradona had less space and time than Messi did and could still do mazy dribbles and create space for his teammates even when defenders were trying to break his legs. The supporting cast Maradona had in Napoli is nothing compared to what Messi has had in Barcelona and he still helped Napoli win two Serie A titles, a Coppa Italia, and the UEFA cup. Even the Argentina team today was better and more complete than the 1986 and 1990 one.
1. I do agree on that, Messi should have tried and even if he had failed, his efforts would have redeemed it.

2. yes it was not as great as Messi's Barcelona, but Napoli has things favoring them and Maradona. People have a way of thinking it was some-kind of Crystal Palace, Granada or Palermo of today, when it was clearly not. They were a rich side, and in the later part with Moggi, they also had many suspect results due to ref help.
If we had to break it season by season:
In the 83/84 season they finished in 12th and appointed Rino Marchesi in mid-season. In the off season out went the veteran Dutchman Ruud Krol and mercurial Brazilian Dirceu plus a number of over the hill and under-performing domestic players. In came Maradona, the Argentine great Daniel Bertoni and Azzurri midfielder Salvatore Bagni to strengthen the side. They joined the defensive stalwarts in Ferrario, Bruscolotti and Boldini plus solid Italians in Celestini, Caffarelli, De Vecchi and Dal Fiume. The side performed adequately for the most part with Diego playing in every match, out of his skin by all accounts and scoring 14 goals with Bertoni chipping in with 11 but they could only finish 8th. It was evident that the level of half the side did not even remotely match that of Diego nor was it good enough to crack the top echelon of the league. Also notable were the first few appearances in the shirt of a young Ciro Ferrara. The slightly low place would cost Marchesi and lead to him and Ottavio Bianchi from Como swapping roles for the next season. In a surprise Hellas Verona win the league title in 84/85.

For the 85/86 season a number of key changes were made in eccentric title winning goalkeeper Claudio Garella, libero Alessandro Renica from Sampdoria and Lazio fan favorite Bruno Giordano coming in. The side responded much better and finished strongly ending up in 3rd place behind the title winner Juventus and Roma. Maradona top scores with 11 league goals with Giordano on 10.

With a much more solid defence now of Renica, Bruscalotti, Ferrario, a youthful Ferrara and with Diego fresh from his miracles in Mexico the side looked ready for season 86/87. Strong additions in newly capped De Napoli from Avellino, Carnevale from Udinese (Bertoni heading the other way) and important squad player Francesco Romano would all play their role. There was initial disappointment in the UEFA Cup getting knocked out by Toulouse on penalties but in the league the side was confident, unbeaten at home and sprinted off to a massive lead in the first 2/3 of the season. In the end they limped their way to the title but not really faced with a real challenger barring an aging Juventus led by Marchesi now the Southerners won their first Serie A title and also the Coppa Italia easily disposing of Atalanta over two legs. Maradona lead the team in goals once again on 10 with Carnevale scoring 8 but many crucial goals were scored by the lesser known players in this great season.

The following season in 87/88 they brought in the exciting Brazilian Careca from Sao Paulo and flying left-back Giovanni Francini from Torino. This was also the season a stalwart in Bruscolotti was slowly being phased out due to his age. Terrible luck meant they had drawn arguably the best side in Europe at the time Real Madrid in the first round of the European Cup! Losing 3-1 on aggregate the side was by no means disgraced and once again they got off to a great start in the league going neck and neck with Milan into the final stretch with the Ma-Gi-Ca trio in electric form. The side then hit terrible form at the worst time failing to win any of the last 5 matches effectively handing Milan the title and amongst that streak was a big loss to Milan in Naples by 3-2. Maradona, Careca and Giordano finish on 15, 13 and 8 goals each.

For the 88/89 season big changes occurred as probably Bianchi felt that the current side had run its course. Giuliano Giuliani funnily enough from Hellas replaced Garella, out went the aging Ferrario, Bagni and Giordano replaced by the tigerish duo of Corradini and Massimo Crippa from Torino. Utility Luca Fusi from Sampdoria was another key arrival as was the Brazilian international midfielder Alemao from Atletico Madrid. A new Napoli was on the horizon rebuilt to take the place of the first version but amazingly Inter would just not drop points that year led by the wily Trapattoni, by the goals of Aldo Serena and the drive of the German Matthaus, they romped to the title. Napoli would also lose the Coppa Italia Final to Sampdoria quite convincingly but massive consolation was the fact that Napoli had won its first European trophy by beating PAOK, Leipzig, Bordeaux, Juventus, Bayern and finally Stuttgart in the Final to take the UEFA Cup. Careca top-scored with 19 goals, Carnevale on 13 and Diego on 9.

Season 89/90 brought a few changes again, most notably coaching in Alberto Bigon coming in from Cesena. On the playing front, Renica started to get less playing time while Romano left to Torino, the two replacements/squad fillers were Marco Baroni from Lecce and Massimo Mauro from Juventus. The side was brilliant in the league especially at home, winning every game bar one and finished strongly to take their second league title with everybody pitching in with strong performances, it was quite strong squad all-round shown by 6 players going to the WC in Carnevale, Ferrara, De Napoli, Alemao, Careca and of course Maradona. Anyone of Crippa, Fusi, Francini wouldn't have looked out of place in the Azzurri at the time but the NT was packed with talent. In Europe the side beat Sporting CP and Wettingen before they were smashed to pieces in Germany by Werder. Also notable was the emergence of a young Gianfranco Zola who made numerous substitute appearances and even chipped in with a goal or two. Maradona had 16 goals in the end, Careca 10 and Carnevale 8.

Season 90/91 and the beginning of the end, nowhere else to start but the events of Italia 90 and the SF clash between Italy and Argentina where the always controversial Diego had asked for the San Paolo to support his NT! According to him, Italy north of Naples spits on and hates the South 364 days a year but this one time they want them to feel Italian. On the pitch the side struggled finishing 8th in the league and crashed out of the European Cup to Spartak Moscow on penalties, with Diego missing his kick. Player wise Giuliani was replaced by the veteran Galli in goal while Fusi went to Torino in a swap with Venturin, Carnevale (who had a poor WC) was offloaded to Roma, while in came little known names of Incocciati, Rizzardi and Silenzi, a sign of where the club was heading, towards mediocrity. Nobody scored over 10 league goals, Careca ended up on 9, Incocciati on 7 and Zola and Diego on 6. Maradona played his last match against Sampdoria in a 4-1 defeat in Genoa on the 24th March 1991. With a ready made replacement in Zola and his ban for cocaine use in place the time was up for this Napoli side...

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Yeah that 1986 final he was man marked by several German players who kept fouling him so he couldn't do much when he advanced hence why he reverted to being the playmaker in the final. The strategy was to attract German players to Maradona and leave openings for the other Argentinian players; which worked and it helped Argentina win the final.
I dont think so that was the strategy, Germany did their best to nullify Maradona, although him being brilliant and having a great functional side did helped a lot.

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Di Stefano and Platini got very unlucky in the world cup. In 1966 Di Stefano's Spain should have been 2-0 at half time because they had a penalty ruled as a freekick outside the penalty box and Platini's France lost Battiston when that German gk almost killed him in the collision. That should have been a straight red for the German gk since he went straight for the man and not the ball. Losing Battiston cost France the game since they lost a good defender. The French played better that day but the better team doesn't always win as we know. Cruyff's Holland played some great football in 1974 but Germany were better in the final.
sorry to nitpick but Stefano never played in World Cup. Also Platini did redeemed himself with that great 1984 Euro.
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If we had to break it season by season:
In the 83/84 season they finished in 12th and appointed Rino Marchesi in mid-season. In the off season out went the veteran Dutchman Ruud Krol and mercurial Brazilian Dirceu plus a number of over the hill and under-performing domestic players. In came Maradona, the Argentine great Daniel Bertoni and Azzurri midfielder Salvatore Bagni to strengthen the side. They joined the defensive stalwarts in Ferrario, Bruscolotti and Boldini plus solid Italians in Celestini, Caffarelli, De Vecchi and Dal Fiume. The side performed adequately for the most part with Diego playing in every match, out of his skin by all accounts and scoring 14 goals with Bertoni chipping in with 11 but they could only finish 8th. It was evident that the level of half the side did not even remotely match that of Diego nor was it good enough to crack the top echelon of the league. Also notable were the first few appearances in the shirt of a young Ciro Ferrara. The slightly low place would cost Marchesi and lead to him and Ottavio Bianchi from Como swapping roles for the next season. In a surprise Hellas Verona win the league title in 84/85.

For the 85/86 season a number of key changes were made in eccentric title winning goalkeeper Claudio Garella, libero Alessandro Renica from Sampdoria and Lazio fan favorite Bruno Giordano coming in. The side responded much better and finished strongly ending up in 3rd place behind the title winner Juventus and Roma. Maradona top scores with 11 league goals with Giordano on 10.

With a much more solid defence now of Renica, Bruscalotti, Ferrario, a youthful Ferrara and with Diego fresh from his miracles in Mexico the side looked ready for season 86/87. Strong additions in newly capped De Napoli from Avellino, Carnevale from Udinese (Bertoni heading the other way) and important squad player Francesco Romano would all play their role. There was initial disappointment in the UEFA Cup getting knocked out by Toulouse on penalties but in the league the side was confident, unbeaten at home and sprinted off to a massive lead in the first 2/3 of the season. In the end they limped their way to the title but not really faced with a real challenger barring an aging Juventus led by Marchesi now the Southerners won their first Serie A title and also the Coppa Italia easily disposing of Atalanta over two legs. Maradona lead the team in goals once again on 10 with Carnevale scoring 8 but many crucial goals were scored by the lesser known players in this great season.

The following season in 87/88 they brought in the exciting Brazilian Careca from Sao Paulo and flying left-back Giovanni Francini from Torino. This was also the season a stalwart in Bruscolotti was slowly being phased out due to his age. Terrible luck meant they had drawn arguably the best side in Europe at the time Real Madrid in the first round of the European Cup! Losing 3-1 on aggregate the side was by no means disgraced and once again they got off to a great start in the league going neck and neck with Milan into the final stretch with the Ma-Gi-Ca trio in electric form. The side then hit terrible form at the worst time failing to win any of the last 5 matches effectively handing Milan the title and amongst that streak was a big loss to Milan in Naples by 3-2. Maradona, Careca and Giordano finish on 15, 13 and 8 goals each.

For the 88/89 season big changes occurred as probably Bianchi felt that the current side had run its course. Giuliano Giuliani funnily enough from Hellas replaced Garella, out went the aging Ferrario, Bagni and Giordano replaced by the tigerish duo of Corradini and Massimo Crippa from Torino. Utility Luca Fusi from Sampdoria was another key arrival as was the Brazilian international midfielder Alemao from Atletico Madrid. A new Napoli was on the horizon rebuilt to take the place of the first version but amazingly Inter would just not drop points that year led by the wily Trapattoni, by the goals of Aldo Serena and the drive of the German Matthaus, they romped to the title. Napoli would also lose the Coppa Italia Final to Sampdoria quite convincingly but massive consolation was the fact that Napoli had won its first European trophy by beating PAOK, Leipzig, Bordeaux, Juventus, Bayern and finally Stuttgart in the Final to take the UEFA Cup. Careca top-scored with 19 goals, Carnevale on 13 and Diego on 9.

Season 89/90 brought a few changes again, most notably coaching in Alberto Bigon coming in from Cesena. On the playing front, Renica started to get less playing time while Romano left to Torino, the two replacements/squad fillers were Marco Baroni from Lecce and Massimo Mauro from Juventus. The side was brilliant in the league especially at home, winning every game bar one and finished strongly to take their second league title with everybody pitching in with strong performances, it was quite strong squad all-round shown by 6 players going to the WC in Carnevale, Ferrara, De Napoli, Alemao, Careca and of course Maradona. Anyone of Crippa, Fusi, Francini wouldn't have looked out of place in the Azzurri at the time but the NT was packed with talent. In Europe the side beat Sporting CP and Wettingen before they were smashed to pieces in Germany by Werder. Also notable was the emergence of a young Gianfranco Zola who made numerous substitute appearances and even chipped in with a goal or two. Maradona had 16 goals in the end, Careca 10 and Carnevale 8.

Season 90/91 and the beginning of the end, nowhere else to start but the events of Italia 90 and the SF clash between Italy and Argentina where the always controversial Diego had asked for the San Paolo to support his NT! According to him, Italy north of Naples spits on and hates the South 364 days a year but this one time they want them to feel Italian. On the pitch the side struggled finishing 8th in the league and crashed out of the European Cup to Spartak Moscow on penalties, with Diego missing his kick. Player wise Giuliani was replaced by the veteran Galli in goal while Fusi went to Torino in a swap with Venturin, Carnevale (who had a poor WC) was offloaded to Roma, while in came little known names of Incocciati, Rizzardi and Silenzi, a sign of where the club was heading, towards mediocrity. Nobody scored over 10 league goals, Careca ended up on 9, Incocciati on 7 and Zola and Diego on 6. Maradona played his last match against Sampdoria in a 4-1 defeat in Genoa on the 24th March 1991. With a ready made replacement in Zola and his ban for cocaine use in place the time was up for this Napoli side...
You have extremely good memory Dejan Napoli were basically the Atletico Madrid of 13-14 who had a few world class players and mostly good players that played in a good system. Their first Serie A title was definitely based on having a strong defense like you said since I remember Napoli had 15 or 16 clean sheets that season. The midfield consisted of De Napoli, Bagni, and Romano; which is a good midfield but was not world class. They won the title but just by 3 points. They needed a stronger attack and midfield in order to win another Serie A title with Milan, Juventus, and Inter strengthening their squad in the following years.

In their second Serie A title Napoli maintained a strong defense with the addition of Corradini to partner Renica and a more experienced but very young Ferrara at right back. They improved their midfield with the additions of Crippa, Alemao, Fusi, and they added a good striker in Careca. However, Napoli like I said was not of the highest caliber when it came to individual players. The only world class players that Napoli really had was Maradona, Alemao, Careca, and Ferrara. De Napoli and Bagni were very good but not world class. The rest of the players Maradona played with were average players (Giuliani, Ferrario, Bruscolotti, Renica, Corradini, Francini, Crippa, Fusi, Romano, Carnevale, and Giordano).

Without Maradona I really doubt Napoli would have won the trophies they did. He was irreplaceable and he raised his teammates level of play just like he did with the Argentina team. Shame that Diego had that cocaine addiction because it was what made him inconsistent at times. He could be an unrivaled player in one Serie A match and then the next match could be marked out throughout the game. Even on his off nights he was a top player but the cocaine definitely hampered his level of play and how much more he could contribute in matches.

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I dont think so that was the strategy, Germany did their best to nullify Maradona, although him being brilliant and having a great functional side did helped a lot.
The 1986 team certainly was a decent side, but far from a "very good" side if you take out Maradona. The one big positive about that Argentinian team was how good it was defensively thanks to the great Ruggeri and mentally strong players like Olarticoechea and Brown, who made up for their lack of talent with grit in defense. Burruchaga and Valdano were also above average players but besides that; it was a pretty average team. The team had more hard-workers than creative, skilled players and Maradona was the conductor and creative spark of that team. Without him, Argentina definitely wouldn't have reached the final or have been able to beat the Germans.

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sorry to nitpick but Stefano never played in World Cup. Also Platini did redeemed himself with that great 1984 Euro.
You're right. I was going off memory but Ferenc Puskas was the one who played against Brazil and it wasn't 1966 but the 1962 world cup where Garrincha helped Brazil win. Di Stefano retired one year before the 1962 world cup for the Spanish NT and Platini definitely made up for that world cup loss with his individual performance in the 1984 Euro.

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Pogba and Hazard have had better individual performances with their clubs and country. I've already said it before that if Neymar starts performing well CONSISTENTLY I won't mind at all giving him the credit he deserves but for now he remains a bitchy squirrel in my book. A bitchy squirrel who scores and disappears.
Now you have lost it. In no way did hazard and pogba performed better than neymar for their countries. Specially hazard, de bruyne was their best player during the world cup.

You too biased when it comes to nemyar. You just hate him, and i woul d never understand why


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Neymar is the reason why I don't like Brazil NT anymore
I wish Ganso was the one who succeeded and not this twat
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Now you have lost it. In no way did hazard and pogba performed better than neymar for their countries. Specially hazard, de bruyne was their best player during the world cup.

You too biased when it comes to nemyar. You just hate him, and i woul d never understand why
The hate is strong in Allan Especially when it comes to brazillians

Guess he forgot the spankings El Ney handed out to Italy and Spain in the confederations cup

Pogba and hazard have performed better what a load of hogwash. Especially hazard, he was poor at the world cup.


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Now you have lost it. In no way did hazard and pogba performed better than neymar for their countries. Specially hazard, de bruyne was their best player during the world cup.

You too biased when it comes to nemyar. You just hate him, and i woul d never understand why
Neymar is such a big bitch. Do I need another reason other than that? He picks fights and doesn't finish them.

Pogba for France won best young player in the 2014 World Cup and had stellar performances for France. Belgium underperformed last year because of their manager. Poor tactics and side passes after side passes. Against Argentina the Belgians hardly created anything and resorted to long balls when it doesn't suit their fast technical players. Their off the ball movement was also pathetic considering the players they have at their disposal. Belgium should have been ripping teams to shreds with the pace in the team but the players were not played to their strengths, especially Hazard and De Bruyne.

Who do you think was one of the key players for Belgium finishing first in their world cup qualifying group AND finishing 9 points ahead of the second team? The winner of this year's PFA Player of the Year Award.

Neymar had great performances in the group stage and then faded away against Chile and Colombia.

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The hate is strong in Allan Especially when it comes to brazillians

Guess he forgot the spankings El Ney handed out to Italy and Spain in the confederations cup

Pogba and hazard have performed better what a load of hogwash. Especially hazard, he was poor at the world cup.
No one takes the confederations cup seriously though Where was Neymar when Brazil were eliminated by Paraguay in the 2011 Copa America?
Messi got eliminated but he was up a very tough Uruguay team who placed 4th in the 2010 world cup.

Btw I like Brazilian players but I hate Neymar and his marketing team for hyping him up so much. I would never put that squirrel Neymar above Zico, Ronaldo, Garrincha, etc...or even Pele. Pele was a way better player then this squirrel. WAY BETTER. It's just his attitude I don't like since he downplays his teammate's contribution to his world cup wins. As for why the Belgian team performed bad in the world cup just read above.^

I really don't know why you think I hate Brazilians because I hate Neymar. There are several Brazilian players I like in the current era (Thiago, Felipe Luis, and Luiz Gustavo). Admittedly I affiliate myself more with Argentinians since I grew up with them, learned soccer from them, and have good friends from there but by no means do I hate Brazilian players. Fenomeno is still one of my favorite players to this day.
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Neymar is such a big bitch. Do I need another reason other than that? He picks fights and doesn't finish them.

Pogba for France won best young player in the 2014 World Cup and had stellar performances for France. Belgium underperformed last year because of their manager. Poor tactics and side passes after side passes. Against Argentina the Belgians hardly created anything and resorted to long balls when it doesn't suit their fast technical players. Their off the ball movement was also pathetic considering the players they have at their disposal. Belgium should have been ripping teams to shreds with the pace in the team but the players were not played to their strengths, especially Hazard and De Bruyne.

Who do you think was one of the key players for Belgium finishing first in their world cup qualifying group AND finishing 9 points ahead of the second team? The winner of this year's PFA Player of the Year Award.

Neymar had great performances in the group stage and then faded away against Chile and Colombia.

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No no no neymar has simply performed better for his national team, wether hazard didn't fit in belgiums nt tactis is another case.
Neymar has been overrated i agree, but the boy is showing why he is worth all that hype.

Hate him all you want, cause in no way are those things you wrote about him true. 100p a future ballon dor winner.


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No no no neymar has simply performed better for his national team, wether hazard didn't fit in belgiums nt tactis is another case.
Neymar has been overrated i agree, but the boy is showing why he is worth all that hype.

Hate him all you want, cause in no way are those things you wrote about him true. 100p a future ballon dor winner.
Neymar is a bitch who starts fights but doesn't end them. I think a lot of people would agree with me here. He only acts hard because the referee is there to protect him.

Either way I don't see him winning the Balon d'Or (even with his hype) as long as Messi is still around. He has to match Messi in level and not play second fiddle to him and Suarez.
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Neymar has been better for Brazil than Messi has been for Argentina actually...it's pathetic
And I don't even like Neymar lmao
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Old 10-06-2015, 19:03   #18275
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Top goalscorer of the UCL with the least minutes played.

Only player in the history of the competition to score in both legs of the quarters and semis as well as the Final.

Overrated

Spanked World cup winners and suddenly the con fed is not important

No wonder all the teams sent their best players

1 World cup and already got goals and assists

He doesn't need to win the ballon d'or for him to be considered a GOAT

In the Final on Saturday he was just waltzing past serie a's finest defenders.. but i'm guessing the UCL aint important also

I love you Alan.... trust me. But let go the hate and appreciate a genuine world class talent.

Just Enjoy the talent.


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Old 10-06-2015, 19:06   #18276
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Neymar has been better for Brazil than Messi has been for Argentina actually...it's pathetic
And I don't even like Neymar lmao
Messi has been trash for Argentina when it mattered.

Ron Fuckin Vlaar shut him down


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Neymar has been better for Brazil than Messi has been for Argentina actually...it's pathetic
And I don't even like Neymar lmao
Better for friendlies perhaps. Messi has stepped his game up for Argentina a lot. He only needs a couple more goals to tie Batistuta in goals for Argentina. All this while playing as a #10.

My only criticism of Messi was in the world cup last year where he looked uninterested and didn't have the drive to take the game into his hands in the knockout games.

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Top goalscorer of the UCL with the least minutes played.

Only player in the history of the competition to score in both legs of the quarters and semis as well as the Final.

Overrated

Spanked World cup winners and suddenly the con fed is not important

No wonder all the teams sent their best players

1 World cup and already got goals and assists

He doesn't need to win the ballon d'or for him to be considered a GOAT

In the Final on Saturday he was just waltzing past serie a's finest defenders.. but i'm guessing the UCL aint important also

I love you Alan.... trust me. But let go the hate and appreciate a genuine world class talent.

Just Enjoy the talent.
No thank you. I've already seen a GOAT talent from Brazil in Fenomeno and Neymar can't compare.
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Old 10-06-2015, 19:12   #18278
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Neymar is a bitch who starts fights but doesn't end them. I think a lot of people would agree with me here. He only acts hard because the referee is there to protect him.

Either way I don't see him winning the Balon d'Or (even with his hype) as long as Messi is still around. He has to match Messi in level and not play second fiddle to him and Suarez.
I only dislike his diving antics. Everything else he does i find entertaining.
- yea neymar won't win a ballon dor as long as messi performs at this level, but i can guarantee you pogba or hazard won't win the ballon dor before neymar.
Well at least as long hazard plays for chelski


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Old 10-06-2015, 19:16   #18279
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Better for friendlies perhaps. Messi has stepped his game up for Argentina a lot. He only needs a couple more goals to tie Batistuta in goals for Argentina. All this while playing as a #10.
Yeah...ok...he's also 28 years old now and he didn't scored in 2010 WC at all...Neymar is already at a way better start scoring 2 goals last year at age 22(and remember...he is one of the reasons I don't like Brazil anymore)

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My only criticism of Messi was in the world cup last year where he looked uninterested and didn't have the drive to take the game into his hands in the knockout games.
It's cuz the bitch is pampered in Barcelona his whole career
He doesn't feel like a true Argie at all...there's no heart from him whatsover...he lacks that drive because he's a spoiled schoolboy
Wish he could fuck off and join Spain NT so I can root for Argentina to win once in a while...ugh

In fact let me post this quote about Laudrup from Cruyff
"Had Michael been born in a poor ghetto in Brazil or Argentina with the ball being his only way out of poverty he would today be recognised as the biggest genius of the game ever. He had all the abilities to reach it but lacked this ghetto-instinct, which could have driven him there."

This is messi

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Better for friendlies perhaps. Messi has stepped his game up for Argentina a lot. He only needs a couple more goals to tie Batistuta in goals for Argentina.
WOW



How many games has it taken him

How many of those goals were in the Copa or the World Cup

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Messi's shite for Argentina... you can tell that in just how many games it's taken for him to reach that figure... it's like saying Klose is better than Gerd Muller... or even Fenomeno because he got more goals at the World Cup and for Germany


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