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Pingu · Feb 8, 2021

milanator said:
Zanetti was really good till he quit.

Also Di Natale, not really a star but one of the best league players.

Ronin said:
Di Natale / Quags have been the Ibra for Udinese / Sampdoria

Zanetti sure. The other two? Both like 37-38 when Di Natale stopped and Quags is currently. Maybe Quags can play until he's 40 but we'll see if he has any kind of impact then like Ibra does now (and when he hits 40 soon). Their impact for their clubs is good, but not on the level Ibra contributes on and off the pitch.

Ronin · Feb 8, 2021

Pingu said:
Zanetti sure. The other two? Both like 37-38 when Di Natale stopped and Quags is currently. Maybe Quags can play until he's 40 but we'll see if he has any kind of impact then like Ibra does now (and when he hits 40 soon). Their impact for their clubs is good, but not on the level Ibra contributes on and off the pitch.

Yeah, agree... nobody really has the same magnitude of impact as Ibra.

Mr. Milanista · Feb 8, 2021

Maldini was still the best defender alive by the time he was 40

Birsaforever · Feb 8, 2021

Mr. Milanista said:
Maldini was still the best defender alive by the time he was 40

Players that are willing to slow down their physical decline with great discipline (especially if they are gifted genetically for this purpose) will likely peak around their 35 and they are still good until their joints and ligaments stop working properly.

Ronin · Feb 8, 2021

I don't know how good of a decision that is for long term (life after retirement), didn't Maldini say his knees are fucked up now?

Hitchens · Feb 8, 2021

Ronin said:
I don't know how good of a decision that is for long term (life after retirement), didn't Maldini say his knees are fucked up now?

He did, says he don't remember the 07 final because he was basically seeing double with all the painkillers.

Then again he competed in Tennis doubles in his late 40s, so I don't know what to think. Those guys are fit for life.

Birsaforever · Feb 8, 2021

Hitchens said:
He did, says he don't remember the 07 final because he was basically seeing double with all the painkillers.

Then again he competed in Tennis doubles in his late 40s, so I don't know what to think. Those guys are fit for life.

In an interwiev he said that playing tennis stresses his knees in an acceptable way but he can't play football anymore

ShevaNo7 · Feb 8, 2021

brk said:
I think it's fine. Puts pressure on him and away from Pioli and the rest of the team.

It?s a good point, we shouldn?t care about the validity of those views, as long as the team is written off as Ibra dependent or underestimated in any other way, it will play right into Milan?s hands

Tantalis · Feb 8, 2021

nekky said:
Has there ever been a 40 y o that has played this good at that age? It's quite evident that Ibra is saving energy these days by not doing small things such as go to corners and collect balls like he used to. Which is completely understandable since he can't really run as much as he could before, but a part from that, all skills and football instincts is all there. To me, he seems to be much much better at heading at goal these days and even more of a threat in front of goal than he was before tbh (apart from penalties, he's been absolute dogshit in that aspect).

Luca toni

Stitches · Feb 8, 2021

Alo88 said:
Is that a fart at 0:37?

1:07 also

Sweating like he's ill.

Neruda · Feb 8, 2021

Love this team

Noyon9s · Feb 8, 2021

Goran Pandev is 37 and scored a brace against Lazio the other day

VultureSheva · Feb 8, 2021

R.Akbar said:
But stats is only as useful as its user's willingness to adapt.

In this case, the main user will be Pioli.
Does Pioli has the willingness to adapt and use data as his main source of tactital change? I'm afraid such changes might only works for younger coach, maybe Julian Nagelsmann?

Does Milan have a data science division?

Pioli?s own son works in data department in Milan.

Ronin · Feb 8, 2021

VultureSheva said:
Pioli?s own son works in data department in Milan.

really? that's nice

VultureSheva · Feb 8, 2021

Pingu said:
Devilo 1
Pigeon 0

But Al Ahli is not Qatar.

Argument it.

Pingu · Feb 8, 2021

Ronin said:
really? that's nice

Yep, there was a an SM article on it:
https://sempremilan.com/meet-the-ex...alysts-work-to-get-the-most-from-every-player

VultureSheva said:
But Al Ahli is not Qatar.

Argument it.

Still closer than a reunion to Bologna with Miha or Genoa

Kind of a sad career trajectory for the next Henry.

Pingu · Feb 8, 2021

@hakanc10 is among Europe's elite in Shot Creating Actions per 90 minutes across the 'top five' European Leagues.

Raz · Feb 8, 2021

VultureSheva said:
But Al Ahli is not Qatar.

Argument it.

The top team in that league is worth less than the bottom team in Serie A. The league is worth less than Serie B.
It's basically the same as if he went to play in Serie C. :lol:

ChinaMilan · Feb 8, 2021

Pingu said:
@hakanc10 is among Europe's elite in Shot Creating Actions per 90 minutes across the 'top five' European Leagues.

funny our management still think he is not worth more than 4.5 M salary.

VultureSheva · Feb 8, 2021

Raz said:
The top team in that league is worth less than the bottom team in Serie A. The league is worth less than Serie B.
It's basically the same as if he went to play in Serie C.

Yes but he won?t get Serie C salary. Also its a 6 month loan. He seems to have problems with Rennes.

Pingu · Feb 8, 2021

VultureSheva said:
Yes but he won?t get Serie C salary. Also its a 6 month loan. He seems to have problems with Rennes.

Yes, fitness issues and 1 goal in 420 minutes is a problem. I am sure he will do well in Saudi league, can't be much harder than Ligue 2 level. Then he will bang them in for Rennes next season.

Raz · Feb 8, 2021

VultureSheva said:
Yes but he won?t get Serie C salary. Also its a 6 month loan. He seems to have problems with Rennes.

What does salary have to do with anything? It's the level that he's playing at. And he couldn't get a loan to a club that's playing in a more competitive league?

Goodfella · Feb 8, 2021

vB9 said:
gab marcotti is such a bastardo... our time in a little bit of sun hurts him so much.
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Pingu said:
The pain in his face when he had to admit Milan still play well even when Ibra is out injured ouch...

Eh, you're getting Marcotti all wrong.
He's always sweating and looking distressed.

Bonetti is the moron who became the spokesperson for the PioliOut crowd and now he's trying to give all credit to Ibra, perhaps to avoid admitting how wrong he was.
Marcotti on the other hand defended Pioli from start and predicted that his counter-pressing would do wonders for Milan. I'm pretty sure he's rooting for Pioli against Conte.

Raz · Feb 8, 2021

Goodfella said:
Eh, you're getting Marcotti all wrong.
He's always sweating and looking distressed.

Bonetti is the moron who became the spokesperson for the PioliOut crowd and now he's trying to give all credit to Ibra, perhaps to avoid admitting how wrong he was.
Marcotti on the other hand defended Pioli from start and predicted that his counter-pressing would do wonders for Milan. I'm pretty sure he's rooting for Pioli against Conte.

That guy still around? I remember some years back, I commented on a discussion between him and a Jube guy (Adam Digby, I think) on twitter.
I said something like, I can't believe someone's paying you guys to talk about football.
Got instantly blocked by both. :lol:

VultureSheva · Feb 8, 2021

According to Don Bolon, Milan thinks of the Barcelona attacking midfielder - Coutinho. On him there are also Tottenham, United and Arsenal. Milan studies the shot.

Master Smurf · Feb 8, 2021

Raz said:
What does salary have to do with anything? It's the level that he's playing at. And he couldn't get a loan to a club that's playing in a more competitive league?

Better players than him chase money in less competitive leagues and others hold their current teams hostage instead of taking new / harder challenges elsewhere.

If he can get paid and thats of importance to him then props to him.

VultureSheva · Feb 8, 2021

Can Bologna pay Niang €3M per year (what he earns)?

Raz · Feb 8, 2021

Master Smurf said:
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Better players than him chase money in less competitive leagues and others hold their current teams hostage instead of taking new / harder challenges elsewhere.

If he can get paid and thats of importance to him then props to him.[/QUOTE]

We're talking about quality here. If he had quality, then someone from the top 5 leagues would still be willing to pay his salary. It's not like he's making crazy money.
And players that's still have quality and chase money, usualy do so for 8 figures. Not "just" 3 million.

Raz · Feb 8, 2021

VultureSheva said:
Can Bologna pay Niang ?3M per year (what he earns)?

They can. But they know he's not worth it

Khurrisu · Feb 8, 2021

Kebab and Dollar renewals please

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