Fabio Capello thread

MilanMB · Feb 9, 2012

Capitão Lugano said:
It's not that I find Allegri a bad coach, he's very good and not a problem for Milan.

It's just that if Milan has the change to get Capello or Mourinho, I won't say "no".

Well that's another discussion. I don't like Capello tbh, but I sure wouldn't say no to Mourinho.

MilanMB · Feb 9, 2012

But it's just stupid to even get into a discussion like this. Milan is Milan and we don't sack coaches just like that. Allegri signed a new deal and he'll be a Milan coach next year, titles or no titles.

Madridista · Feb 9, 2012

Redman10 said:
You could also say Conte covers the limitations of his players.

thats the entire point of having coaches isn't it? otherwise it will be just whoever has the better players wins.

coaches job is to make a group better than the sum of their parts. some are good at it, some aren't. Allegri belongs in the latter

SpartanMilan · Feb 9, 2012

continuing to play Dorf, Ambro, and Bommel, especially with Dorf at CAM is just absolute madness and Al doesnt seem to see it.

to be honest, Seedorf has been a steaming load of garbage for most of this season. He hasnt even been 1/2 of what he was in the second half of last year. Playing him in a Coppa Game and at CAM is mind numbingly dumb.

give the team a chance and change it up, be that using a 3 man backline, or even a 4-4-2 with Abate and Urby outside, or give a young player like Christante a chance.

We continue to play Ambro even after he turns the ball over a million time or Dorf when he is producing nothing. I'm thrilled that their experience continues to shine through and is clearly better than what a young, talented, and hungry player can do. and if Christante isnt ready yet, that is all well and good, but at least it was an attempt at something new instead of trying to make something which doesnt work somehow magically work

MilanMB · Feb 9, 2012

The funny thing is that two of the biggest football noobs in the world are Allegri worst critics.

Yes, I'm talking about madridista and spartan.

One is a flips and trick fanboy and the other one is a peddo bear.

SpartanMilan · Feb 9, 2012

MilanMB said:
The funny thing is that two of the biggest football noobs in the world are Allegri worst critics.

Yes, I'm talking about madridista and spartan.

One is a flips and trick fanboy and the other one is a peddo bear.

no let's keep trying to do the same thing. Remember when I thought we should play El Shaarawy and I was called a pedo for that? good call, he has be horrible

if the youth player shows he cant play, then great, dont play them. but I dont know how you guys can watch Ambro or Dorf suck ass every week and think it is dumb to at least try someone else

Goodfella · Feb 9, 2012

It's nice to see he learned from the last Juve game it's suicidal to have too many old, slow, static players in the midfield especially against teams who press well and are dangerous when in possession...................oh wait.

Really, he needs to do something about it. Some things he gets hated for are unfair, some are just plain ********, but really, he needs to stop using all 3 of MVB, Ambro and Dorf. There are always better options. I'm not one of those who have big faith in our youth, but heck even filling the midfield with Primavera guys would be better. Change the formation, put some unproven, shy, insecure 16 year old in starting line up, put Abate in the midfield, whatever as long as not Seedorf+Ambro+MVB.

MilanMB · Feb 9, 2012

lol, you think playing el-sharawy was your idea?

I remember making fun of you for it, but my reply was always that Allegri knows when it's the time to start giving him playing time. At the start of the season Allegri even said that sharawy will be ready in 6 months or so.

Your problem is that you don't seem to understand that unproven youth isn't supposed to be given their first test in the first team, they have to prove themselves in primavera AND first team training sessions first.

That's another obvious thing people should know if they just used their brains. But no, let's play Cristante or whatever the fuck his name is, because he's young. I dislike Seedorf and Ambro more than anyone, but even I wouldn't think of playing someone unproven instead of them in a game where it matters.

SpartanMilan · Feb 9, 2012

MilanMB said:
lol, you think playing el-sharawy was your idea?

I remember making fun of you for it, but my reply was always that Allegri knows when it's the time to start giving him playing time. At the start of the season Allegri even said that sharawy will be ready in 6 months or so.

Your problem is that you don't seem to understand that unproven youth isn't supposed to be given their first test in the first team, they have to prove themselves in primavera AND first team training sessions first.

That's another obvious thing people should know if they just used their brains. But no, let's play Cristante or whatever the fuck his name is, because he's young. I dislike Seedorf and Ambro more than anyone, but even I wouldn't think of playing someone unproven instead of them in a game where it matters.

you mean.... like in a Coppa game? the prize money is less than it is for the Super Coppa. So Al risks our best player (Silva) and then has Ambro run himself ragged (while he is sucking) all for pretty much nothing. When the Udinese game rolls around and Ambro is dragging ass I'm sure Al's choices will make sense

see if the kid can play in a meaningless game, and if not dont play him in Serie A. but I am so glad Ambro was able to use his experience at starting counters for the other team to great affect today

Goodfella · Feb 9, 2012

MilanMB said:
lol, you think playing el-sharawy was your idea?

I remember making fun of you for it, but my reply was always that Allegri knows when it's the time to start giving him playing time. At the start of the season Allegri even said that sharawy will be ready in 6 months or so.

Your problem is that you don't seem to understand that unproven youth isn't supposed to be given their first test in the first team, they have to prove themselves in primavera AND first team training sessions first.

That's another obvious thing people should know if they just used their brains. But no, let's play Cristante or whatever the fuck his name is, because he's young. I dislike Seedorf and Ambro more than anyone, but even I wouldn't think of playing someone unproven instead of them in a game where it matters.

This was the biggest opportunity for you to shit on Seedorf and Ambro and you blew it.

There are always better options than Ambro at non-anchor role + Seedorf at CAM. But Al didn't even need to put Christante on. He could've had Seedorf at LCM, Binho at CAM or a 4-3-2-1 with SES and Binho behind Ibra. Would've made much more sense.

Ashish · Feb 9, 2012

spartan just passing by to say i <3 you keep masstermark in you alive

MilanMB · Feb 9, 2012

you guys are really hopeless.

Redman10 · Feb 9, 2012

You can't really be critical of Allegri for not playing a youngster in this game. Game against one of your biggest rivals in a cup fixture it's too risky. What you can get at him for is not trying something else. Even Carlos tried a 4-4-2 with wingers when he had a injury crisis. It didn't work well but the situation force his hand and I don't see that with Allegri trying other alternatives.

SpartanMilan · Feb 9, 2012

honestly I dont care that he didnt play Christante. I would have been great with trying Abate in the midfield, or anything different. if you didnt see this happening with Dorf at CAM, and Bommel +Ambro in midfield then you are blind

SpartanMilan · Feb 9, 2012

Redman10 said:
You can't really be critical of Allegri for not playing a youngster in this game. Game against one of your biggest rivals in a cup fixture it's too risky. What you can get at him for is not trying something else. Even Carlos tried a 4-4-2 with wingers when he had a injury crisis. It didn't work well but the situation force his hand and I don't see that with Allegri trying other alternatives.

like I stated, it is worth less than even the SuperCoppa in winnings. that should show how meaningless it is

SpartanMilan · Feb 9, 2012

Ashish said:
spartan just passing by to say i <3 you keep masstermark in you alive

did you have fun today watching Pirlo play better than any of our mids?

Goodfella · Feb 9, 2012

MilanMB said:
you guys are really hopeless.

For wanting both SES and Binho to start, making it "only" one 34+ year old midfielder in a non-anchor role, in a position where he has done relatively well? Share us your wisdom.

Redman10 · Feb 9, 2012

SpartanMilan said:
like I stated, it is worth less than even the SuperCoppa in winnings. that should show how meaningless it is

Personally, I don't view it as a worthless competition. It on the same level of the FA Cup and Copa Del Rey. It one of the trophies you have to win if you want to accomplish a treble. It is an important trophy IMO and Milan should make it a priority in at least being competitive in it.

Ashish · Feb 9, 2012

SpartanMilan said:
did you have fun today watching Pirlo play better than any of our mids?

coppa

not worthy of training bibs

Casualista · Feb 9, 2012

I'll just adress the capello coming to milan part of the discussion since capello vs allegri discussions are superfluous and disingenuous. And Pato would be the first person to be booted out of the club if Capello came. He doesnt take that level of incompetence.

any one who knows even an iota about capello would knows he will never come back to Milan. The last time he did he said it was the biggest mistake of his life because he inherited a team that was finished. This team is exactly the same. He also never likes to look back at his trophies or his teams that he has coached. Which was reinforced by the fact that Madrid kicked him out after he won in his second spell. Any coaching offer capello will take will definitely be a new team. It is what his character demands.

Ashish · Feb 9, 2012

capello will kick major arse in here .. complete anarchy .. barbaras boy is going to fly out like anything

lol capello kiked out ronaldo and becham out of madrid then what will happen to pato :lol:

capello please media circus would be immense :lol:

SpartanMilan · Feb 9, 2012

he had Cassano around for a while and he was a ton less professional than Pato. he would actually make demands and improve Pato's game

Ultra Swan · Feb 9, 2012

Capello would turn Pato in to a fully fledged rapist!

Ashish · Feb 9, 2012

Vx7 said:
Capello would turn Pato in to a fully fledged rapist!

hahahahahh

rosso_nero · Feb 9, 2012

According to GDS Anzhi is offering 8m per year, besides Inter and Juve might be interested as well.

Jasper · Feb 9, 2012

tumblr'd him a bit:

(Redondo)

Good old:

Where's the quote from Frook's sig?

Jasper · Feb 9, 2012

Love this guy's visualisation(?) stuff - http://www.bootifulgame.com/portfolio/instant-reactions-to-the-resignation-of-don-fabio/

Nice blog from ginkers - http://giancarlorinaldi.tumblr.com/post/4182195315/fabio-capello-why-even-a-million-words-in-english

dhorasoo · Feb 9, 2012

The English didn't deserve him anyways...

necromancer · Feb 9, 2012

AllTfatChildren said:
I'll just adress the capello coming to milan part of the discussion since capello vs allegri discussions are superfluous and disingenuous. And Pato would be the first person to be booted out of the club if Capello came. He doesnt take that level of incompetence.

any one who knows even an iota about capello would knows he will never come back to Milan. The last time he did he said it was the biggest mistake of his life because he inherited a team that was finished. This team is exactly the same. He also never likes to look back at his trophies or his teams that he has coached. Which was reinforced by the fact that Madrid kicked him out after he won in his second spell. Any coaching offer capello will take will definitely be a new team. It is what his character demands.

Nope, I'd disagree. Our team in 2009-10 was finished. Our team of 2011-12 is incomplete. It is the 2nd year of rebuild, and a lot of starting positions have been cemented. But due to various factors (heart problems, rapid old age etc), we'll be forced to continue the rebuilding job. I dont think that's necessarily a terrible time to take-over the club.

Not saying I want him. I consider Allegri to be superior to him at this stage.

sushanmilano · Feb 9, 2012

necromancer said:
Nope, I'd disagree. Our team in 2009-10 was finished. Our team of 2011-12 is incomplete. It is the 2nd year of rebuild, and a lot of starting positions have been cemented. But due to various factors (heart problems, rapid old age etc), we'll be forced to continue the rebuilding job. I dont think that's necessarily a terrible time to take-over the club.

Not saying I want him. I consider Allegri to be superior to him at this stage.

More finished than incomplete. If we had one or two old guys you could say incomplete. With Ambro/Seedorf/rino/Nesta/Zambrotta still here you could say the new cycle has not yet begun.

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