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Old 30-12-2004, 17:29   #41
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agreed with your statement, but being bashed for the wrong reason is another thing all together...

u can bash him for his football inabilities but besides that we shouldnt...
You can't expect everyone to like him. A person expresses their love for the player while another expresses their disgust. You get both sides of argument.
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Old 30-12-2004, 17:39   #42
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Old 30-12-2004, 18:51   #43
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I love Pirlo...the guys a great all around player. He could be the next, classier, totti. His crosses seem to stop in mid-air just before they reach his teamates. A very underaated and soon to be great player.
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Old 30-12-2004, 19:36   #44
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He could be the next, classier, totti.
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Old 30-12-2004, 19:55   #45
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I love Pirlo...the guys a great all around player. He could be the next, classier, totti. His crosses seem to stop in mid-air just before they reach his teamates. A very underaated and soon to be great player.
He's never gonna be the next Totti...Francesco is a leader...and he is Roma especially these days...his conduct does leave a lot to be desired but I have to say Totti is better in all departments
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Old 31-12-2004, 01:41   #46
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you guys (& gals) and your comparrassions. 1st off try comparing 2 players that play the same position. 2nd off Pirlo isn't a defensive midfielder he's a holding midfielder, & yes there is a differance.

If they wanted a defensive midfielder then Gattuso would go there. We don't play with a defensive midfielder, but backuse we play with only 3 central midfielder's (Seedorf-Pirlo-Gattuso) Pirlo is forced to come back into a deeper role.

I think I agree with Passion on this one (& I hope I understand her views) in that he is a great player and should get ever better, but this year he's been a dissapointment compared with how he has played for us the 2 previous seasons. He's just not as sharp so far in the 04-05 campaign. Let's hope he can turn that around because a lot of our sucess depends on him as he's the only central midfielder.


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Old 31-12-2004, 02:18   #47
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you guys (& gals) and your comparrassions. 1st off try comparing 2 players that play the same position. 2nd off Pirlo isn't a defensive midfielder he's a holding midfielder, & yes there is a differance.
I call him a deep playmaker, Gattuso his watchdog + Seedorf a piece of deadwood (most of the time). Objections ?

This rigid setup with Seedorf, Gattuso + Pirlo + no real viable alternative system is Milan's major vulnerability, more than Inzaghi missing, an off-match by Sheva + our ancient defense. Two fairly slow players + a destructive one don't work against attack-oriented teams of a certain level that don't use the midfield as their favourite playground but see it as an area to be bridged as quick as possible. Esp. when Kaka' is so erratic as in this season. Off-topic, but I'm getting more worried about encountering the Manure than I care to admit.


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Old 31-12-2004, 03:49   #48
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I have expected more from him, can't repeat it enough. His consistency this season is.. well, let's put it this way: it's sth. I'm still waiting for. And did I mention his biggest disadvantage aside from the frail physical build, his slowness ? Therefore his accuracy is such a must, to partially compensate his weaknesses. And when it fails him, he's pretty much useless. I think that's what K-J means when drooling on his impact on the game. He's either great + dictating the flow + creating... or... crap. Hardly ever anything in between. Take all of Milan's rather unimpressive, uninspired matches this season, I bet they had one thing in common: an underperforming Pirlo.
what are you going on about... i think you spend to much time backing up for Pippo then actually paying attention to other players in the Milan squad.

You continually bag out the likes of Seedorf, our defence and well know Pirlo.
Pirlo does alot for Milan without his introduction into the starting XI we had no orcastrator, Pirlo possess great technical ability he can create an opportunity within a blink of an eye, he is improving his defence his challenges ball winning tackles... how can you say he is useless??

His consistancy is lacking this season but then again so does every soccer player's, your quick to pounce on a player when he was underperforming and slow to prasie one when he is at his highs


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Old 31-12-2004, 09:13   #49
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what are you going on about... i think you spend to much time backing up for Pippo then actually paying attention to other players in the Milan squad.

You continually bag out the likes of Seedorf, our defence and well know Pirlo.
Pirlo does alot for Milan without his introduction into the starting XI we had no orcastrator, Pirlo possess great technical ability he can create an opportunity within a blink of an eye, he is improving his defence his challenges ball winning tackles... how can you say he is useless??

His consistancy is lacking this season but then again so does every soccer player's, your quick to pounce on a player when he was underperforming and slow to prasie one when he is at his highs
hmmmm couldnt agree more...but i think pirlo would be back to his original self after the break...cuz i think he badly needed a break...after the euro n olmpics fixtures...so...he should be refreshed after the break.....forza pirlo...forza milan!


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Old 31-12-2004, 12:00   #50
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he is improving his defence his challenges ball winning tackles...
LOL. Yea.. he sure does lose a bunch of balls. Sometimes I wonder if you EVER watch matches. Some of you clearly go by whatever the flavour-of-the-month computer game dictates you in its stats. Absolutely ridiculous.


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how can you say he is useless??
Read, comprehend... + if you quote, quote correctly.

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His consistancy is lacking this season but then again so does every soccer player's, your quick to pounce on a player when he was underperforming and slow to prasie one when he is at his highs
I leave the praising to those who even praise crap performances + criticize cos hardly anyone else here has a sound relationship with criticism.

But, since it's New Year's Eve + I'm nice I'm gonna repeat my point. Pirlo's impact on the game is of such dimension that it approaches zero when he is off-form. In short, the structure of Milan's buildup play more or less falls apart. It manifests itself in helplessly/aimlessly pushing the ball around in midfield + eventually losing it. Don't tell me you've never noticed.


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Old 31-12-2004, 20:53   #51
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you guys (& gals) and your comparrassions. 1st off try comparing 2 players that play the same position. 2nd off Pirlo isn't a defensive midfielder he's a holding midfielder, & yes there is a differance.

If they wanted a defensive midfielder then Gattuso would go there. We don't play with a defensive midfielder, but backuse we play with only 3 central midfielder's (Seedorf-Pirlo-Gattuso) Pirlo is forced to come back into a deeper role.

I think I agree with Passion on this one (& I hope I understand her views) in that he is a great player and should get ever better, but this year he's been a dissapointment compared with how he has played for us the 2 previous seasons. He's just not as sharp so far in the 04-05 campaign. Let's hope he can turn that around because a lot of our sucess depends on him as he's the only central midfielder.
well, every player has his ups and downs, and if you compare his ups and downs, i believe his ups definitely outweight the down's
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Old 01-01-2005, 01:31   #52
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LOL. Yea.. he sure does lose a bunch of balls. Sometimes I wonder if you EVER watch matches. Some of you clearly go by whatever the flavour-of-the-month computer game dictates you in its stats. Absolutely ridiculous.
Well if he is rated well in the computer games he is obviously is doing something right... and i do catch every Milan game as any dedicated Milan supporter would
Whats your point Passion i said that he is improving his defensive side of the game because thats where he is lacking the most (dont need to be a rocket scientist to work that out), but i guess Rino makes it up for him and likewise Pirlo for the technical side.


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LOL. Yea.. he sure does lose a bunch of balls. Sometimes I wonder if you EVER watch matches. Some of you clearly go by whatever the flavour-of-the-month computer game dictates you in its stats. Absolutely ridiculous.
how do you justify your passion for inzaghi, by his looks????
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Old 17-01-2005, 12:29   #54
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If im not wrong Pirlo already got got the four yellow card so he wont be playing against Livorno

Do u guys know there's a time Carletto spoke to a GDS' jounalist that Pirlo would be a genius coach in the future.

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Old 17-01-2005, 12:41   #55
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If im not wrong Pirlo already got got the four yellow card so he wont be playing against Livorno

Do u guys know there's a time Carletto spoke to a GDS' jounalist that Pirlo would be a genius coach in the future.
Thats interesting lol i cant really see him becoming a coach doesnt but sho knows


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Old 17-01-2005, 15:41   #56
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i wouldnt be surprised though, he directs the game play for our matches. so he will know the loopholes of a game... probably will perfect it...
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Old 22-01-2005, 06:00   #57
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Arrigo Sacchi wish to buy Pirlo.

I'd like to tell him "FAT HOPE! YOU'LL NEVER GET HIM! Andrea is a Milanista a vita!"

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http://channel4.com/sport/football_italia/jan21j.html
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Old 22-01-2005, 07:49   #58
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dont think milan will ever consider it... unless carletto moves to real!!! (there are prior rumours of him moving)

but then again will pirlo ever want to leave a club that gave him a shot at glory???
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Arrigo Sacchi wish to buy Pirlo.

I'd like to tell him "FAT HOPE! YOU'LL NEVER GET HIM! Andrea is a Milanista a vita!"
I don't think this could happen.
Real don't need him really and we don't let him go.

But if they get Adriano,they don't want Gila,i hope this is true.
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Old 22-01-2005, 12:17   #60
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dont think milan will ever consider it... unless carletto moves to real!!! (there are prior rumours of him moving)

but then again will pirlo ever want to leave a club that gave him a shot at glory???
Staying in Milan is already giving him lots of glory =) He dont have to leave
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