Alexandre Pato Thread - Page 1248

blacki · 19-01-2021, 17:17

because all of you smart guys, hang out with him when he played here and now know what were his problems

Shiby · 19-01-2021, 22:46

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Originally Posted by blacki

because all of you smart guys, hang out with him when he played here and now know what were his problems

I dont think him training too hard was the reason he failed.

Cocaina bro and him being Berlusconis step son for 15min. Probably had a better life than he would have being Capocannoniere tbh.

Balthier · 22-01-2021, 11:23

injuries aside do you think Ronaldo, Ronaldinho and Robinho was bad influence on him and his carreer?

Mexes5 · 23-01-2021, 06:38

Just remembered that he actually played for Chelsea at one point & loads of random clubs

Still much love for Pato.

leaf · 25-01-2021, 15:19

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Originally Posted by Balthier

injuries aside do you think Ronaldo, Ronaldinho and Robinho was bad influence on him and his carreer?

Not that I'm saying that it couldn't be.....but it's not an excuse.
Dida, Kaka, Lucio, Cafu etc were around these guys more than Pato.
Neymar came up afterwards. They all did exceptionally well.
Pato's failings are on himself and his injuries. And you couldn't find a bigger fanboy of him. Hell I got two of his shirts

Fusiproe12 · 26-01-2021, 10:25

Leao > Pato

leaf · 26-01-2021, 16:22

Not under 20 years

Balthier · 30-01-2021, 03:42

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Originally Posted by leaf

Not that I'm saying that it couldn't be.....but it's not an excuse.
Dida, Kaka, Lucio, Cafu etc were around these guys more than Pato.
Neymar came up afterwards. They all did exceptionally well.
Pato's failings are on himself and his injuries. And you couldn't find a bigger fanboy of him. Hell I got two of his shirts

i mean Ronaldo, Ronaldinho and Robinho was his Milan Teammates and those 3 was known for their party lifestyle i mean you know the story of Ronaldo gave Pato Playboy magazine

mazurxiii · 30-01-2021, 22:04

I read theory that MilanLab wanted to 'upgrade' Pato (force him to gain more muscle) and they overdid it. Thats why he became injury prone. And then he lost his speed/acc and the rest is history. Nowdays - if somobody think about 'what if' - u can look at Mbappe - same type of player.

Sven · 30-01-2021, 22:41

It was not partying or injuries. The dude just never really developed his skillset and tactical understanding.

His game is as raw today as it was when at 18. He still can do those instinctive runs to the box (altough he has lost some of this speed and acceleration now) and he still has that slick and fast dribbles and eventual great finishing touch.

And he still can't use this consistently, he still can't play outside the box cause his short passes and first touch turn/control is still bad and he still can't do the more demanding job of a pivot and he still is not smart enough to be a pure poacher either.

We all saw those weakness when he had arrived at Milan but he was so young and had such raw tools that you would just assume it was just a matter of time and training. But it never happened. That's the thing with potential: sometimes it is doesn't become real.

Mbappe at 22 is a much more complete player than he was at 17.

ForzaSandro · 31-01-2021, 05:57

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Originally Posted by Sven

It was not partying or injuries. The dude just never really developed his skillset and tactical understanding.

His game is as raw today as it was when at 18. He still can do those instinctive runs to the box (altough he has lost some of this speed and acceleration now) and he still has that slick and fast dribbles and eventual great finishing touch.

And he still can't use this consistently, he still can't play outside the box cause his short passes and first touch turn/control is still bad and he still can't do the more demanding job of a pivot and he still is not smart enough to be a pure poacher either.

We all saw those weakness when he had arrived at Milan but he was so young and had such raw tools that you would just assume it was just a matter of time and training. But it never happened. That's the thing with potential: sometimes it is doesn't become real.

Mbappe at 22 is a much more complete player than he was at 17.

Thanks Sven. Everything was instinctive as you said, that's why his dribbles were straight line runs, often into defenders. Great goalscorer though.

View Poll Results: How many goals will Pato score for Milan in 2012-2013?
<=5	65	27.31%
6-10	44	18.49%
11-15	40	16.81%
16-20	34	14.29%
21-25	18	7.56%
26-30	3	1.26%
>30	34	14.29%
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19-01-2021, 17:17	#24941
blacki Rookie Join Date: Jul 2016	because all of you smart guys, hang out with him when he played here and now know what were his problems

22-01-2021, 11:23	#24943
Balthier Primavera Player Join Date: Aug 2012	injuries aside do you think Ronaldo, Ronaldinho and Robinho was bad influence on him and his carreer?

23-01-2021, 06:38	#24944
Mexes5 AC Milan Legend Join Date: Jun 2014 Fav. Players: Nesta, Seedorf, Gattuso, Kaka, Inzaghi, Shevchenko, Mexes, Pato, Pazzini	Just remembered that he actually played for Chelsea at one point & loads of random clubs Still much love for Pato.

26-01-2021, 10:25	#24946
Fusiproe12 Winter Champions Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Belpaese	Leao > Pato

30-01-2021, 22:04	#24949
mazurxiii Rookie Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Poland	I read theory that MilanLab wanted to 'upgrade' Pato (force him to gain more muscle) and they overdid it. Thats why he became injury prone. And then he lost his speed/acc and the rest is history. Nowdays - if somobody think about 'what if' - u can look at Mbappe - same type of player.

30-01-2021, 22:41	#24950
Sven Super Moderator Join Date: Aug 2009	It was not partying or injuries. The dude just never really developed his skillset and tactical understanding. His game is as raw today as it was when at 18. He still can do those instinctive runs to the box (altough he has lost some of this speed and acceleration now) and he still has that slick and fast dribbles and eventual great finishing touch. And he still can't use this consistently, he still can't play outside the box cause his short passes and first touch turn/control is still bad and he still can't do the more demanding job of a pivot and he still is not smart enough to be a pure poacher either. We all saw those weakness when he had arrived at Milan but he was so young and had such raw tools that you would just assume it was just a matter of time and training. But it never happened. That's the thing with potential: sometimes it is doesn't become real. Mbappe at 22 is a much more complete player than he was at 17.