Official: Zlatan Ibrahimović Thread II

Sven · Jul 31, 2012

fredrik9 said:
Read here (under "supporters"):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Saint-Germain_F.C.

Actually quite interesting.

Yeah it's quite exciting.
You know, like finding a lost brother or something. I would love to visit the Milan fake version one day.

Would I find the sign "il club piu titolato del mondo" somewhere in their Stadium?

Yeah, they have a Blue & Red forums?

I can bet their Ashish support Italy. Their Calum like total football and they have an user called Congo Pouvoirs who is ugly, pessimist and use green color in his name.

Jivara · Jul 31, 2012

It will be in Italian ... duh !!

Christian · Jul 31, 2012

fredrik9 said:
Read here (under "supporters"):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Saint-Germain_F.C.

Actually quite interesting.

lol didn't know they had an English wiki... did you write that?

Paladin · Jul 31, 2012

Congo Powers said:
i wonder..is there an english forum for psg? or will it be in french?

Hmm, why do u think we are still here

This will be the PSG forum until we got thread number 3 for our king Ibra

Take care, time for a bee can now

alias Paladin drunked Fred

Congo Powers · Jul 31, 2012

Sven said:
Yeah it's quite exciting.
You know, like finding a lost brother or something. I would love to visit the Milan fake version one day.

Would I find the sign "il club piu titolato del mondo" somewhere in their Stadium?

Yeah, they have a Blue & Red forums?

I can bet their Ashish support Italy. Their Calum like total football and they have an user called Congo Pouvoirs who is ugly, pessimist and use green color in his name.

Paladin said:
Hmm, why do u think we are still here

This will be the PSG forum until we got thread number 3 for our king Ibra

Take care, time for a bee can now

alias Paladin drunked Fred

well we should speak in french then! to prepare u guys for the departure!

bienvenue à tous à la ligue de renommée mondiale de fourrage! ici vos nez sera bien pris en charge!

crazy4milan · Jul 31, 2012

Sven said:
I can bet their Ashish support Italy. Their Calum like total football and they have an user called Congo Pouvoirs who is ugly, pessimist and use green color in his name.

Congo Powers said:
bienvenue à tous à la ligue de renommée mondiale de fourrage! ici vos nez sera bien pris en charge!

Notre chere nez joue avec les meilleurs enfin! La ligue de renommée mondiale de fourrage, la ligue del grand Taye, la ligue UN! :proud:

Paladin · Jul 31, 2012

just for the records, it will take atleast 4 years to open thread number 3 for King Ibra, so just cool down with ur ehumm french for a while!

Maybe on the time when he mowe on to Man City we can consider some french, but only offcourse if King Ibra on that time already have won the CL with PSG!

Then the next goal are PL, yeaa that means we got an undispoted WC player winning all the lige in Europe, nice right?

Well we still got the russian lige, but thy dont play football, its more like snowball, do u agree?

bye, time for another beer can

fred did you open the can already? am i behind? well not for long, watch up down there, here it comes one more.

Sven · Jul 31, 2012

fourrage!

Senatore_M84 · Jul 31, 2012

fredrik9 said:
Better than the AARP meetings you organize.

Here's more... life.

Lol. You really thing I dislike ibra don't you?

You simply don't get my positition. Probably never will. He's obviously a topclass player. Just nowhere near his perception among you all. And its obnoxious the way you all try gto put him above the club

Jivara · Jul 31, 2012

S84... I feel what u say about Ibra but lets be real to ourselves... we fucking hate the guy... doesnt mean I cannot appreciate the good thing he does... but I really dont give a shit about Ibra and will not remember him to be in the same league as lets say someone like Kluivert... fuck Ibra he is not someone to like, if he was in my class, or in my work office I would probably not like him, he is a douche with no loyalty, he got better with time, as thats what maturity does, but he has a shit character which I will never respect.

Tantalis · Jul 31, 2012

Jivara said:
S84... I feel what u say about Ibra but lets be real to ourselves... we fucking hate the guy... doesnt mean I cannot appreciate the good thing he does... but I really dont give a shit about Ibra and will not remember him to be in the same league as lets say someone like Kluivert... fuck Ibra he is not someone to like, if he was in my class, or in my work office I would probably not like him, he is a douche with no loyalty, he got better with time, as thats what maturity does, but he has a shit character which I will never respect.

imo sounds like a bit of jealousy considering u don't know the man and therefore cant really make a legitimate claim on his character.

Congo Powers · Jul 31, 2012

for me personally..i'll always love him!
jivara all u said i dont share the same opinion..probably opposite actually.

not in the same league as kluivert....really dude? how do u figure?

Senatore_M84 · Jul 31, 2012

Jivara said:
S84... I feel what u say about Ibra but lets be real to ourselves... we fucking hate the guy... doesnt mean I cannot appreciate the good thing he does... but I really dont give a shit about Ibra and will not remember him to be in the same league as lets say someone like Kluivert... fuck Ibra he is not someone to like, if he was in my class, or in my work office I would probably not like him, he is a douche with no loyalty, he got better with time, as thats what maturity does, but he has a shit character which I will never respect.

actually, i find his personality quite finny off the pitch. He's a top notch character. He cracks me up, similar to like Cassano does. All players got egos. Pirlo? Cmon pirlo's ego is a big reason he left milan. The golden boy, kaka? His ego is why he refused city to madrid. MAldini? Maldini's ego is preventing him from taking a position at milan. He is demanding some position he's horribly unqualified for.

It's his game on the pitch which drives me mad.

And by that... it's not that he's bad. It's that he still.... just doesn't get it. Doesn't get less is more sometimes. Too ball dominant. Because4 he's just that talented he can bully wins v. 99% of opposition, but man, a little more self-lessness and attention to detail off ball could make him van basten/ronaldo class.

And for me that's more mental than say 'talent'.

That lethargic, ball-dominant play really annoys me. Quite frankly, messi grew into that this year, and suffice to say, barca was worse. Much better team when he played as one of the squad.

I just think Zlatan's his own worst enemy

Jivara · Jul 31, 2012

You know its like when you meet a really hot chick but there is no character in here she becomes a little bit ugly or lets say unattractive.. this is the same with Ibrahimovic... whereas the best girls are the ones you like because of their character you start to notice that they are prettier than you first thought... Maybe Kluivert is not the best example, he is not a great person, but I admired his attitude somehow, someone like Gattuso or Inzaghi is a person I admire, a person with no special football skills becomes a legend simply down to character. Dont argue that Pippo is a poacher, Gattuso is a ball-winner... I am talking passing, shooting... these real basics, which Zlatan combines so nicely and is really a great athlete, but his attitude I hate, I cannot fully respect someone who cannot make his team mates better, this is probably the first trait I look for in a player.

Jivara · Jul 31, 2012

Senatore_M84 said:
actually, i find his personality quite finny off the pitch. He's a top notch character. He cracks me up, similar to like Cassano does. All players got egos. Pirlo? Cmon pirlo's ego is a big reason he left milan. The golden boy, kaka? His ego is why he refused city to madrid. MAldini? Maldini's ego is preventing him from taking a position at milan. He is demanding some position he's horribly unqualified for.

It's his game on the pitch which drives me mad.

And by that... it's not that he's bad. It's that he still.... just doesn't get it. Doesn't get less is more sometimes. Too ball dominant. Because4 he's just that talented he can bully wins v. 99% of opposition, but man, a little more self-lessness and attention to detail off ball could make him van basten/ronaldo class.

And for me that's more mental than say 'talent'.

That lethargic, ball-dominant play really annoys me. Quite frankly, messi grew into that this year, and suffice to say, barca was worse. Much better team when he played as one of the squad.

Yes I fully agree.. like I said its his character.. his football ability is great... maybe attitude is the better word...

Messi is a good example, I kind of feel an enmity towards him since last year whereas before I was ok with him, but its all the 'he is the greatest ever' claims that have turned him into this... this is modern football.. they are turning it into an american sport where there is one man leading the greatest team on the planet... just like how its Kobe and The Lakers... Tebow and the Broncos... now its Messi and Barcelona... eventhough Xavi and Iniesta are just as important imo.

fredrik9 · Jul 31, 2012

Seriously Jivara, I don't think you've done anything to figure out his character or personality, you judge him by his yelling and moaning on the pitch, and some brief cocky quotes.

Nevermind. But this:

Jivara said:
I really dont give a shit about Ibra and will not remember him to be in the same league as lets say someone like Kluivert...

Seriously? Zlatan has dominated Serie A during the 2000's like no one else.

Six Scudetti, two times top scorer, three times voted best player.

Who is even close to that?

fredrik9 · Jul 31, 2012

Senatore_M84 said:
I just think Zlatan's his own worst enemy

Of course. Who else would dare facing him?

Armin__m · Jul 31, 2012

fredrik9 said:
Seriously Jivara, I don't think you've done anything to figure out his character or personality, you judge him by his yelling and moaning on the pitch, and some brief cocky quotes.

Nevermind. But this:

Seriously? Zlatan has dominated Serie A during the 2000's like no one else.

Six Scudetti, two times top scorer, three times voted best player.

Who is even close to that?

4 Scudetti.

HeroMaldini · Jul 31, 2012

i would love to see ibra win the CL and ballon d'or this season. however for leonardo i would NOT like to see psg win the CL.

anyone know is there anywhere you get buy the Ibra auto biography in ENGLISH????

Pipa · Jul 31, 2012

HeroMaldini said:
anyone know is there anywhere you get buy the Ibra auto biography in ENGLISH????

I too would like to know.

forward · Jul 31, 2012

HeroMaldini said:
i would love to see ibra win the CL and ballon d'or this season. however for leonardo i would NOT like to see psg win the CL.

anyone know is there anywhere you get buy the Ibra auto biography in ENGLISH????

iTunes store.

http://itunes.apple.com/gb/book/i-am-zlatan-ibrahimovic/id501231658?mt=11

MilanMB · Jul 31, 2012

Senatore_M84 said:
actually, i find his personality quite finny off the pitch. He's a top notch character. He cracks me up, similar to like Cassano does. All players got egos. Pirlo? Cmon pirlo's ego is a big reason he left milan. The golden boy, kaka? His ego is why he refused city to madrid. MAldini? Maldini's ego is preventing him from taking a position at milan. He is demanding some position he's horribly unqualified for.

It's his game on the pitch which drives me mad.

And by that... it's not that he's bad. It's that he still.... just doesn't get it. Doesn't get less is more sometimes. Too ball dominant. Because4 he's just that talented he can bully wins v. 99% of opposition, but man, a little more self-lessness and attention to detail off ball could make him van basten/ronaldo class.

And for me that's more mental than say 'talent'.

That lethargic, ball-dominant play really annoys me. Quite frankly, messi grew into that this year, and suffice to say, barca was worse. Much better team when he played as one of the squad.

I just think Zlatan's his own worst enemy

I agree with most of this. But you know, players got to play the way they want. It's probably the best way to get the best out of them.

Zlatan didn't get a real football education growing up, his career started much later than other kids (3-4 years is a lot in football). He's to much of an street player. Those players usually struggles with tactics, and that's probably Ibra's biggest weakness.

People may overrate him as a person, but as a football player he's as good as they come imo, at least talent wise. So I got to disagree with you there.

What I don't understand is why he never became a better header of the ball. He got all the tools for it. He jumps higher than most, strong like a bull. Is his timing THAT bad?

MilanMB · Jul 31, 2012

HeroMaldini said:
i would love to see ibra win the CL and ballon d'or this season. however for leonardo i would NOT like to see psg win the CL.

anyone know is there anywhere you get buy the Ibra auto biography in ENGLISH????

pipa said:
I too would like to know.

Fred and I translated the book a while back. Maybe one of us can send it to you.

If you want to buy it to have it that's another thing.

Christian · Jul 31, 2012

MilanMB said:
What I don't understand is why he never became a better header of the ball. He got all the tools for it. He jumps higher than most, strong like a bull. Is his timing THAT bad?

I don't think he's a bad header of the ball. His problem is that he doesn't move very much in the box, so never gets himself in positions where he gets a chance to head at goal. Technically he seems to be pretty good at heading the ball, maybe not as good as a player like Carroll or Bierhoff, but most of those guys game is based around heading the ball anyways, so that's probably where the difference is.

Pipa · Jul 31, 2012

MilanMB said:
Fred and I translated the book a while back. Maybe one of us can send it to you.

If you want to buy it to have it that's another thing.

Gonna get it from itunes :cool:

fredrik9 · Jul 31, 2012

Christian said:
I don't think he's a bad header of the ball. His problem is that he doesn't move very much in the box, so never gets himself in positions where he gets a chance to head at goal. Technically he seems to be pretty good at heading the ball, maybe not as good as a player like Carroll or Bierhoff, but most of those guys game is based around heading the ball anyways, so that's probably where the difference is.

Maybe... he should still score more with his head.
One thing he does do though is clearing defensive corners. Nesta said something about that recently, that Zlatan clears 50% of the corners against us.

fredrik9 · Jul 31, 2012

Armin__m said:
4 Scudetti.

6 won. The club later lost 2.

Pipa · Jul 31, 2012

fredrik9 said:
6 won. The club later lost 2.

Armin__m · Jul 31, 2012

fredrik9 said:
6 won. The club later lost 2.

His team got two by cheating, so they don`t count.

Christian · Jul 31, 2012

fredrik9 said:
Maybe... he should still score more with his head.
One thing he does do though is clearing defensive corners. Nesta said something about that recently, that Zlatan clears 50% of the corners against us.

Well he stands at the front post because he's tall. I mean, it's nice at all, but most tall players could probably do that. In fact I'm pretty tall as well, could probably do it as well as Zlatan.

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