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Old 11-11-2015, 16:10   #81
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Pellegatti: Tomorrow we will know whether Bertolacci can make it for the game against Juventus.


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Old 11-11-2015, 17:14   #82
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We don't match up well against Juventus. They have a superior midfield.. That's our biggest weakness. they're biggest strength.

I expect a loss but if we draw that would be a massive win for us.
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Old 11-11-2015, 18:35   #83
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You're missing the point.
First of all there are many players that are good/great but not at the very zenith. Messi/CR7 being the best doesn't make Robben/Muller/Ribery/Kucka/Sanchez/Lewa etc worthless.....These are all elite players as well...just not to be considered at the pinnacle of football.

Again you are (intentionally) misinterpreting my claim about the shit One.
I really don't think I am. You specifically said Allegri sucked compared to the elite coaches.


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This is MY personal opinion and argument why Allegri is not one of the better coaches: He has no imagination. His teams are always known for their pressing and grinta. THAT'S IT. Hell he even admits that he tries to wear down his opponents to score later on in the 2nd half. In reality, he leans heavily on the quality/tenacity of his team instead of devising a clear strategy to get a goal.

Compare this to Ancelotti, Simeone, Wenger...hell even Mourinho and you can see that there is a clear strategy to get forward. Honestly, can you point to a particular system that Allegri uses to get the ball in the net? I'd love to hear about it.
lets take opinions and feelings out of this. the teams he coached have won titles.

The burden of proof is on you not me to say he has no credit for the success.

so, Ancelotti was carried by his teams?

Why does Carlo get credit for success with taking the team past where Mourinho could but Allegri gets none for bettering Conte?

You're arguing based on emotion
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Old 11-11-2015, 20:32   #85
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I really don't think I am. You specifically said Allegri sucked compared to the elite coaches.




lets take opinions and feelings out of this. the teams he coached have won titles.

The burden of proof is on you not me to say he has no credit for the success.

so, Ancelotti was carried by his teams?

Why does Carlo get credit for success with taking the team past where Mourinho could but Allegri gets none for bettering Conte?

You're arguing based on emotion
Easy....In '07 nobody gave Milan a chance. Our squad was weaker than our '06 and '05 squads, we lost our golden ball player $heva, didn't have a reliable #9 striker with Inzaghi injured for long stretches and Gila proving to ok-ish only, got a league point deduction, and our backline was beyond aging. Milan was nowhere close to favourites to get there but we slew a bunch of giants en-route to reclaiming our revenge on Liverpool....Seriously that's some storybook shit right there!!

He converted Kaka into a striker, and placed Seedorf as a "pure" CAM....made so many adjustments to the team and we STILL kicked everybody's ass.

Mourinho used his fairly limited resources to win the whole fucking CL with Deco and Beni Mcarhty as his main attackers! This was in 2004 when the old Giants were still playing.

^That's the kind of resourcefulness and imagination that Shitelegri has never shown. As a matter of a fact he SQUANDERS the talent that he does have.....I'm pretty sure that if he wasn't as desperate as he was recently, he'd have given Dybala a hard time in getting into the team. Juve fans were tearing their hair out for him to let the kid play

Yes he won a bunch of league titles....but so has Mancini. Doesn't automatically mean he's anything.

and OF course he SUCKS when compared to the elites!! Have you not watched our games under him...or do you only check match reports and highlights? The shittiest brand of football you'd ever see took place under his fishy ass


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Easy....In '07 nobody gave Milan a chance. We lost our golden ball player $heva, got a league point deduction, and our backline was beyond aging. Milan was nowhere close to favourites to get there but we slew a bunch of giants en-route to reclaiming our revenge on Liverpool....Seriously that's some storybook shit right there!!

He converted Kaka into a striker, and placed Seedorf as a "pure" CAM....made so many adjustments to the team and we STILL kicked everybody's ass.

^That's the kind of resourcefulness and imagination that Shitelegri has never shown. As a matter of a fact he SQUANDERS the talent that he does have.....I'm pretty sure that if he wasn't as desperate as he was recently, he'd have given Dybala a hard time in getting into the team. Juve fans were tearing their hair out for him to let the kid play

Yes he won a bunch of league titles....but so has Mancini. Doesn't automatically mean he's anything.

and OF course he SUCKS when compared to the elites!! Have you not watched our games under him...or do you only check match reports and highlights? The shittiest brand of football you'd ever see took place under his fishy ass
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Old 11-11-2015, 20:58   #87
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Easy....In '07 nobody gave Milan a chance. Our squad was weaker than our '06 and '05 squads, we lost our golden ball player $heva, didn't have a reliable #9 striker with Inzaghi injured for long stretches and Gila proving to ok-ish only, got a league point deduction, and our backline was beyond aging. Milan was nowhere close to favourites to get there but we slew a bunch of giants en-route to reclaiming our revenge on Liverpool....Seriously that's some storybook shit right there!!

He converted Kaka into a striker, and placed Seedorf as a "pure" CAM....made so many adjustments to the team and we STILL kicked everybody's ass.

Mourinho used his fairly limited resources to win the whole fucking CL with Deco and Beni Mcarhty as his main attackers! This was in 2004 when the old Giants were still playing.

^That's the kind of resourcefulness and imagination that Shitelegri has never shown. As a matter of a fact he SQUANDERS the talent that he does have.....I'm pretty sure that if he wasn't as desperate as he was recently, he'd have given Dybala a hard time in getting into the team. Juve fans were tearing their hair out for him to let the kid play

Yes he won a bunch of league titles....but so has Mancini. Doesn't automatically mean he's anything.

and OF course he SUCKS when compared to the elites!! Have you not watched our games under him...or do you only check match reports and highlights? The shittiest brand of football you'd ever see took place under his fishy ass
I still remember that game against Ajax where they had like 70% possession. Afterwards, mother fuckin allegri said that we used this type of tactics against superior teams.

whoever still supported him after that quote is a giant piece of shit imho!
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Old 11-11-2015, 21:06   #88
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Di Stefano, Sky: "Donnarumma will return on Wednesday with Romagnoli, De Sciglio, Antonelli, Bonaventura, Montolivo and Cerci from NT. Bacca will arrive on Wednesday night and Kucka and Thursday. Bertolacci is still not well. So Milan will have to find the reaction vs Juventus in only 3 days."
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Old 11-11-2015, 21:06   #89
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Old 11-11-2015, 21:30   #90
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We don't match up well against Juventus. They have a superior midfield.. That's our biggest weakness. they're biggest strength.

I expect a loss but if we draw that would be a massive win for us.
If Miha was able to get a draw away vs Juve with Samp last season, I think he can do it again.
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Old 11-11-2015, 22:35   #91
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With all these injuries and key players that will return a day or 2 before the match, i really cant see that we can win this. But we should draw against this juve. No excuses.
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Easy....In '07 nobody gave Milan a chance. Our squad was weaker than our '06 and '05 squads, we lost our golden ball player $heva, didn't have a reliable #9 striker with Inzaghi injured for long stretches and Gila proving to ok-ish only, got a league point deduction, and our backline was beyond aging. Milan was nowhere close to favourites to get there but we slew a bunch of giants en-route to reclaiming our revenge on Liverpool....Seriously that's some storybook shit right there!!

He converted Kaka into a striker, and placed Seedorf as a "pure" CAM....made so many adjustments to the team and we STILL kicked everybody's ass.

Mourinho used his fairly limited resources to win the whole fucking CL with Deco and Beni Mcarhty as his main attackers! This was in 2004 when the old Giants were still playing.

^That's the kind of resourcefulness and imagination that Shitelegri has never shown. As a matter of a fact he SQUANDERS the talent that he does have.....I'm pretty sure that if he wasn't as desperate as he was recently, he'd have given Dybala a hard time in getting into the team. Juve fans were tearing their hair out for him to let the kid play

Yes he won a bunch of league titles....but so has Mancini. Doesn't automatically mean he's anything.

and OF course he SUCKS when compared to the elites!! Have you not watched our games under him...or do you only check match reports and highlights? The shittiest brand of football you'd ever see took place under his fishy ass
Leo, seedorf, pipo, Miha or Allegri

Who is the best coach since Carlo?

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I still remember that game against Ajax where they had like 70% possession. Afterwards, mother fuckin allegri said that we used this type of tactics against superior teams.

whoever still supported him after that quote is a giant piece of shit imho!
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What I expect to see:

At least 10 different CB pairs, let him get the right one after 20 games
Choking vs small sides at the beginning of the season
Injury crisis
Terrible run in the first part of the season
Forcing out 1 or 2 players
15-20 game strike in the 2nd part of the season
Ok results in the CL

Hilarious press conferences (for us Milan fans, Juve will be in tears after Allegri confesses hes proud to get a draw vs a force like Ajax )
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Well allegri is an ok coach but a huge let down form conte. Juve has a very strong team, but it is conte who made it . Wthout him , lets see how juve do. Mancini or Spalletti would have been better options. Allegri dosent have a system of play, and doesent push his players hard enough. Plus it might mean the end of pirlo with juve, vidal leaving to man u and a overall cheap mercato from juve. Allegri comes in , suddenly no money for iturbe!
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how long is allegri's contract with juventus?

depending on how juventus does...the next 2 years will be a big insight into his true coaching abilities.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm...
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Allegri with current Milan would have better results..
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Defend him all you want fruit cake, but he's definetely out,
even he realize this by now. It would be a shame to keep him
after all this!
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I don't care about Istanbul, I'm talking about this season.
Look at us, sharing 2nd place with Fiora,
in very uncomfortable position in CL and yet we gotta
go to Istanbul tomorrow!
What do you see happening if we lose tomorrow?
Galiani has forgiven Carlo too much too many times,
and I really hope that he is full of his sh** !

"Carlo Must Go" is on my signature even before the final vs. Liverpool !
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agree with you

Now Really Ancelotti Must Go

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When did you two start becoming dissatisfied with Carletto? I'm not asking to antagonize you; just curious.
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I have a feeling the forum will b e divided into two main groupies...
1. Ancelotti Basher...
2. Ancelotti Worshiper...
For me...I think he didn't have any class...his vision and tactical strategy are very low...and he depends on the player performances rather than Tactical strategy to build up a strong team...
Someone even told me...Milan win in CL because of their players ability and experience, not because of their strategy...
I completely agree with him...
So as long is this is a free forum...I would like to register to the Ancelotti basher...
He must goooooo.....
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I can't bellieve Ancelotti gets NO LOVE after all the success in the CL he has brought Milan.

If he leaves goes to Chelsea and Galiani keeps this crap up with the way he handles the transfer windows...everyone will see how good we had it!!!

Abramovich will give him all sorts of money for transfers, more than Berlu will give Milan in 5 transfer windows. If he could take this team to 3 in 6, he'll do wonders in Chelsea.

The grass is aways greener!!!
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a new coach is needed to break up the debilitating automatisms of milan's mutual admiration society.

if you're still harboring doubts about ancelotti having lost the plot:
his latest concept of reinforcing our attack consists of signing 33-year old del piero in the summer.

if it wasn't so sad, it would be funny.
Hmmmm... sounds so familiar..

So.. RnB just pisses on anything Milan? Hmmmm.
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