German Bundesliga Thread

Sage · Jan 17, 2013

dude on the left starting is the reason the gap will remain big.

Dottore Joey · Jan 17, 2013

jammin said:

#NiangPredator

jammin · Jan 17, 2013

Sage said:
dude on the left starting is the reason the gap will remain big.

OR

He could be the X-Factor. Difference between the two teams.

Az. · Jan 17, 2013

Pep to Bayern, CL next year just got a bit more interesting.Man Bayern have such a awesome board compared to ours its sad:|

Soldier_of_god · Jan 17, 2013

calling bundesliga fodder is just ********. Give them some credit when its due. Besides they will whoop english teams asses anyway and isnt that what we would like to see often. Chelsea were the biggest joke chamions league winners ever, lol they should have lost 4 -1 to barca and atleast 3 -1 to bayern in the final.

nuttela · Jan 17, 2013

milan_swagger said:
calling bundesliga fodder is just ********. Give them some credit when its due. Besides they will whoop english teams asses anyway and isnt that what we would like to see often. Chelsea were the biggest joke chamions league winners ever, lol they should have lost 4 -1 to barca and atleast 3 -1 to bayern in the final.

#dimatteo

Personally I was all for Chelsea after we got knocked out - I was supporting Napoli as hard as I'd support Milan against them but once they were pitting it against Barca I was all for Chelsea. (I was in a way glad Benfica didn't go through cos Barca would of decimated them)

they won 3-2 on aggregate. Scores don't lie. Messi buckled

Soldier_of_god · Jan 17, 2013

Yeah same with me nutella but u gotta admit, they were incredibly lucky lmao.

Soldier_of_god · Jan 17, 2013

it was 90 % luck and 10 % the power of will of drogba, ramires, lampard and cech

nuttela · Jan 17, 2013

It was a flawless tactic that just was ugly to watch for their fans and those who weren't butthurt

Ashley Cole was IMMENSE during their run... he cleared shots from Maggio to keep the score at 3-1 (Andre Villas Boas :lol:

) and in their home game against barca he cleared one out to stop fabregas (i can't recall)

And Ramires was everything our midfielders wished they were.

Dominate · Jan 17, 2013

perfect club for pep imo

they will beast if it works

necromancer · Jan 17, 2013

Ashley Cole's CL performance is getting over-rated year by year. He was the best at his position last season, but mainly because there weren't many good fullbacks around.

Dark Knight · Jan 17, 2013

Sage said:
robben is the sole reason bayern didn't win the CL last season.

at least gomez contributed on their way there. still, fuck him.

no gomez is the sole reason for bayern losing anything. he missed about million chances. Robben is the only reason they were in 2010 final, and van buyten the reason they lost that one.

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I think pep to bayern is sort of a perfect match. You've got to admire the way bayern conduct their business. No one knows and they just snap up whoever they want without a lot of fuss.

Sage · Jan 17, 2013

Dark Knight said:
no gomez is the sole reason for bayern losing anything. he missed about million chances. Robben is the only reason they were in 2010 final, and van buyten the reason they lost that one.

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I think pep to bayern is sort of a perfect match. You've got to admire the way bayern conduct their business. No one knows and they just snap up whoever they want without a lot of fuss.

bayern overachieved in 2010, bastian and MVB protected a very shaky back 4, probably worse than the current milan back 4.

robben was a beast on their way to the 2010 final, but he choked in 3 finals, 2010 CL + WC and the 2012 CL.

needs to fuck off alongside gomez.

Qaas · Jan 17, 2013

Javi Martinez is probably gonna be the new CB instead of Bastian and am 80% sure that is bye bye to gomez

Shaqiri = the new messi

Dark Knight · Jan 17, 2013

Sage said:
robben was a beast on their way to the 2010 final, but he choked in 3 finals, 2010 CL + WC and the 2012 CL.

needs to fuck off alongside gomez.

robben didnt choke in 2010 final, he was the only chance of them doing anything, since ribery was i think suspended or was he injured. He got a couple of very good saves out of cesar. But the problem was no one else got into the game. Bayern just couldn't control the midfield and had a shit defence and keeper. Inter had a much much much stronger team than them.

Wc final yeh he missed a big chance, although that was a pretty great save by cassilas and puyol should have been red carded for his foul on robben.

I am a huge robben fan, so maybe i am a bit irrational on this matter.

But Gomez yeh.. he is shit :thumbsup:

Soldier_of_god · Jan 17, 2013

But the point is bayern would never have got to those finals if not for robben in 2010 and probably last year to an extent as well.

yagami7gnr · Jan 17, 2013

de nuttela said:
You will always be bundesfodder in my not so objective eyes. Take Pep

We have

Allegri looks like the G of coaches.
In a game, the other teams score
Players: "What do we do coach?
Allegri: "We are fine as we are"
The other team scores a second goal.
Players: "What do we do coach?
Allegri: "We are fine as we are"
The other team scores a third goal.
Players: "What do we do coach?
Allegri: "We ....... (shit, I better start earning my paycheck and make some changes.)"
True Story.

bola · Jan 17, 2013

yagami7gnr said:
Allegri looks like the G of coaches.
In a game, the other teams score
Players: "What do we do coach?
Allegri: "We are fine as we are"
The other team scores a second goal.
Players: "What do we do coach?
Allegri: "We are fine as we are"
The other team scores a third goal.
Players: "What do we do coach?
Allegri: "We ....... (shit, I better start earning my paycheck and make some changes.)"
True Story.

Armin__m · Jan 17, 2013

yagami7gnr said:
Allegri looks like the G of coaches.
In a game, the other teams score
Players: "What do we do coach?
Allegri: "We are fine as we are"
The other team scores a second goal.
Players: "What do we do coach?
Allegri: "We are fine as we are"
The other team scores a third goal.
Players: "What do we do coach?
Allegri: "We ....... (shit, I better start earning my paycheck and make some changes.)"
True Story.

Except it`s even worse with Galliani, he does nothing for the first 6 goals(years).

Dark Knight · Jan 17, 2013

milan_swagger said:
But the point is bayern would never have got to those finals if not for robben in 2010 and probably last year to an extent as well.

as i said i am a huge robben fan and obviously totally agree with this.

Soldier_of_god · Jan 17, 2013

robben is pure class although a bit of a cunt. I love him as you can see in my favourite players list. We should have bought him when we sold kaka, if we had him last year, we would have whopped barca's ass inside out.

Pedro · Jan 17, 2013

milan_swagger said:
But the point is bayern would never have got to those finals if not for robben in 2010 and probably last year to an extent as well.

Robben had important influence, yes, ignoring the choking in the finals.

He was good to have for Bayern, though, now they signed Shaqiri, and also have Müller and Ribéry, I am not sure why they wanted to still keep him.

Christian · Jan 17, 2013

Pedro said:
Robben had important influence, yes, ignoring the choking in the finals.

He was good to have for Bayern, though, now they signed Shaqiri, and also have Müller and Ribéry, I am not sure why they wanted to still keep him.

I always preferred Bayern without Robben, at least in the last couple of years. I know he was fantastic in 2010, but I always felt that the team worked better without him, at least since Ribery hit top form. Robben's a player that need the ball to be effective cause he doesn't move alot without it (A bit like Ronaldinho), at the same time Bayern have Ribery who also need to have the ball, as well as a top class passer like Kroos. It just seems to me like Bayern are better with Müller who is the exact opposite of Robben, in that he's not as effective with the ball, but moves very well without it.

Soldier_of_god · Jan 17, 2013

robben deserves atleast 1 UCL and a world cup before he retires, the dude is simply a phenomenon to watch. If u guys ever watched him at chelsea, where he was even better than what he was at bayern, haters would then maybe learn to appreciate his style of play and influence in the game, he is pure match winner just like our gold en boy kaka aprt from the choking in finals.

Christian · Jan 17, 2013

milan_swagger said:
robben deserves atleast 1 UCL and a world cup before he retire, the dude is simply a phenomenon to watch. If u guys ever watched him at chelsea, where he was even better than what he was at bayern, haters would then maybe learn to appreciate his style of play and influence in the game, he is pure match winner just like our gold en boy kaka aprt from the choking in finals.

Erm what?

Senatore_M84 · Jan 17, 2013

I'm pretty confident Robben wil be out under pep

not a guardiola style player.

Pedro · Jan 17, 2013

Christian said:
I always preferred Bayern without Robben, at least in the last couple of years. I know he was fantastic in 2010, but I always felt that the team worked better without him, at least since Ribery hit top form. Robben's a player that need the ball to be effective cause he doesn't move alot without it (A bit like Ronaldinho), at the same time Bayern have Ribery who also need to have the ball, as well as a top class passer like Kroos. It just seems to me like Bayern are better with Müller who is the exact opposite of Robben, in that he's not as effective with the ball, but moves very well without it.

Müller and Robben are indeed quite the opposite kinds, and in general you are better off with Müller, yes. Robben is a special case. When he was in immense form for a longer period, he pushed Bayern to an even higher - world class - level, and then he was simply your first choice. When Robben is not in top form, Bayern better play without him, while they have the likes of Ribéry, Müller, Kroos and also Shaqiri now (not mentioning the strikers). I don't see Robben to come back to the amazing former him, and for several reasons I would say they are better off selling him.

Senatore_M84 · Jan 17, 2013

i wouldn't be surprised if pep tried robben at CF.

he's too selfish, poor at linking up to play wing/mid role.

atleast im positive pep will prefer ribery/kroos/muller behind a cf.

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That's assuming they don't sell robben, which they very well could

acmilan4ever · Jan 18, 2013

Robben imo will be given a chance down the right wing or as you mentioned at faux 9. He wont be forced out initially as many predict. Ribbery, Muller and Shaqiri will provide as the other wingers.

I actually think that Mario Gomez will have to step his game up else he will be replaced by Mandzukic in the short term and probably both replaced by a more technically gifted forward like Muller as interchanging faux 9. They also have 17/18 year old American born player called Julian Green who is not only a good finisher but he has some technical ability, watch out for him. I've always felt that a player like Luis Suarez would fit Pep's philosophy requirement for CF but im sure there are others out there too.

It will be very interesting to see how the midfield 3 shape up if indeed he uses his Barca formation. Kroos may eventually profit from this if he is to be selected as one of the 3 men in the midfield. His vision, his passing and his long range shot is tailor made for that role while Schweini and Javi Martinez control the tempo of the game from slightly deeper. They have Emre Can and Pierre Hojberg almost ready to step up to the first team Luis Gustavo should provide adequate back up.

Defense wont be an issue, enough back up and depth.

This is gonna be a monstrous team if they adapt to Pep.

yagami7gnr · Jan 18, 2013

Senatore_M84 said:
I'm pretty confident Robben wil be out under pep

not a guardiola style player.

well, let's see:

1. Good technique? check
2. Kind of short? check
3. Loves to DIVE? Huge check

He is a keeper.

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