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Old 15-02-2020, 13:49   #201
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Borini is one of the worst players to ever wear the milan shirt.
Exactly, but there is a reason why he plays Serie A and someone like Mastour doesn‘t. You‘d agree that this reason is in his head not in his legs, no?
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Old 15-02-2020, 14:17   #202
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Borini is one of the worst players to ever wear the milan shirt.
Andre Silva was much worse though

Borini is a cheap, decent player meant for a mid-table club. He'll do well at Verona (actually already doing)


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Old 15-02-2020, 14:42   #203
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Old 15-02-2020, 21:47   #204
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Maybe someone has mentioned before, he reminds me of the Night King from the Game of Thrones


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Old 15-02-2020, 23:49   #205
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You act like Suso has never done well for us, his game dried up over the last months but he contributed for a long time. Not to forget that we hardly payed anything for Suso, something that‘s gets overlooked quite frequently, Suso was probably the best value for money right after the homegrown players and Ibra 2.0.
No, I implied in the other thread that Suso was earning his spot in the 2018 part of last season.

I have no issue with Suso himself. I wish him the best at Sevilla or wherever he ends up. I didn't like that the same morons who were treating like him a world class players were now whistling and jeering him off. That was shameful.
My issue is with the directors and coaches who had everything in Milan revolve around Suso for 4 years.

Suso, if used like the rotation player he is, could've been genuinely useful player without hampering anything.
He has 25-30 minutes in him but he was encouraged to spread that over 90 mins.
He played 90 mins pretty much every game every week every season for 4 years. That was made possible by giving him preferential treatment like Messi, Ibra and Cristiano. They avoid getting burned out or injured by not working as hard as the rest off-ball. Making such sacrifices for a player like Suso is the single worst decision the club has made in the last 5 years.


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Old 16-02-2020, 00:07   #206
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I don't think he could have been used sparingly, and I don't think we would have noticed that.


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Old 16-02-2020, 00:36   #207
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Suso’s entire time at Milan was basically one big swindle
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Old 16-02-2020, 00:40   #208
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Suso’s entire time at Milan was basically one big swindle
Rude, but the truth


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Old 16-02-2020, 01:09   #209
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I don't think he could have been used sparingly, and I don't think we would have noticed that.
He would've probably handed in a transfer request.
That's what he did at Liverpool.
Then at Milan in 2015(Genoa loan).
And then once again this winter.


But a rotation role is the only way he could - not necessarily would - be useful to an ambitious club without hampering progress. That is if he's willing to give his all for 20-30 minutes, Lots of ifs and buts.
Even then he would be far from ideal bench material since he's extremely limited. Not to mention his 3m salary. I'll get tears of joy if Sevilla trigger that clause.


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Old 16-02-2020, 01:14   #210
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Suso’s entire time at Milan was basically one big swindle
You made me search for "Suso" and your user name.


You believed in Giampaolo's 4-3-Suso-2.


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Old 16-02-2020, 08:52   #211
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You made me search for "Suso" and your user name.


You believed in Giampaolo's 4-3-Suso-2.
Complete misconstrual but whatever, I don’t care.
My point exactly anyway, the importance given to Suso (because of his individual moments) belied his actual net negative effect on the team
Maybe only omniscient fans like yourself could see it all along
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Old 16-02-2020, 09:09   #212
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He also seems like a big game player for us. Scored against Inter and then Juve. Both goals where he got into the right position, both games played well as if it were a normal game. No surprise given he played in a WC final though I guess. Also had a great cup win in Germany for Frankfurt that he carried.


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Old 16-02-2020, 09:13   #213
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I think he's way better looking than Silva. n/h
silva has inter face.
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Old 16-02-2020, 15:57   #215
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Sounds about right...


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Old 16-02-2020, 19:50   #216
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So if we want to get him on a not completely crazy fee we have to hope Silva has a good spring.
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Old 16-02-2020, 22:16   #217
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So if we want to get him on a not completely crazy fee we have to hope Silva has a good spring.
not necessarily, there is always next season

i believe the clubs will discuss this in the summer


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Old 16-02-2020, 22:50   #218
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So if we want to get him on a not completely crazy fee we have to hope Silva has a good spring.
In other words, our only hope is that Rebic pulls a Bacca on Frankfurt. "Milan or nothing".

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Complete misconstrual but whatever, I don’t care.
My point exactly anyway, the importance given to Suso (because of his individual moments) belied his actual net negative effect on the team
Maybe only omniscient fans like yourself could see it all along
We all had big hopes for Suso at some point(well everyone except albmovi, who hoped Suso would fail out of spite for the Niang sale).

But c'mon.....Suso as trequartista of a diamond midfield.

Suso didn't deceit. He too became a victim of Giampaolo's delusions.


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Old 17-02-2020, 15:34   #219
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Exactly, but there is a reason why he plays Serie A and someone like Mastour doesn‘t. You‘d agree that this reason is in his head not in his legs, no?

Mesbah also played in serie a and we all know how awful he was.

Rebic is levels above borini. Dont disrespect him like that.
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Old 17-02-2020, 15:35   #220
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Andre Silva was much worse though



Borini is a cheap, decent player meant for a mid-table club. He'll do well at Verona (actually already doing)
No he wasn’t. Didn’t even get half the minutes borini got
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