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Old 05-11-2018, 19:26   #3961
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So how can DC possibly close the distance on Jones without getting hit? fedor could do it because he had the ability to close the distance real quick by angling in right?
DC seems to only struggle to close the distance on Jones. He has got to figure out a way to get past those oblique and teep kicks. Either check them or counter with your own leg kicks but DC has poor kicking game. Something fedor could do with ease and that's the reason why fedor would beat Jones I think.
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Old 11-11-2018, 03:59   #3962
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Anyone else train months on end with something that feels weird but never weird enough to go and have a doctor take a look at it?


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Old 11-11-2018, 12:41   #3963
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Anyone else train months on end with something that feels weird but never weird enough to go and have a doctor take a look at it?
Years.

Not even just weird. Actual small injuries that I know I can live with (sprains, even small tears in ligaments),

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Cerrone finishes Perry pretty easy. Always thought Perry was mostly talk and fairly new in terms of his skills, can't believe Jackson-Winkeljohn ditched Cerrone for Perry.


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Old 11-11-2018, 12:46   #3964
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I was so happy for cerrone when he finished perry, absolutely schooled him on the ground, that reverse from bottom to top was beautiful.

yair vs zombie what an insane finish, never seen anything like it.
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Old 11-11-2018, 12:48   #3965
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I was so happy for cerrone when he finished perry, absolutely schooled him on the ground, that reverse from bottom to top was beautiful.

yair vs zombie what an insane finish, never seen anything like it.
Yea it's not common to see someone be that dominant from the bottom in the UFC anymore.

For me that just goes to show how noob Perry was...maybe I am wrong but I felt like UFC has been trying to hype Perry. Had he beaten Cerrone, they may even position him for a shot soon.

Edit: Were you impressed by Yair? I thought the ending was extremely sloppy but good for him beating another tough fighter. I also think KZ isn't the same anymore (age, injuries, time away from octagon to serve).


I still remember my first time watching KZ fight in Sengoku 7 (World Victory Road)'s Featherweight tourney. It was the first time that I dived in to the Featherweight Division as it was not in the UFC, and I actively followed the WEC but I would say at the time the lighter talents were still in Japan, namely Kid (RIP).

What an exciting time it was: DREAM (creation of former PRIDE and K-1 HERO's organizers) was also having their own Featherweight tourney, so lots of talented international Featherweight talents. Funnily enough, KZ was not even close to being the favorite of that tournament, not even a dark horse, though that may be partly due to being Korean. Hatsu Hioki was the clear favorite, and Marlon Sandro was the second favorite. The dark horses were Kanehara and Nam Pham. In the DREAM tournament, it was kind of set up to give Kid a belt. There were a lot of good veterans and prospects (Bibi) but none of their games seemed complete enough to beat Kid. Kid even got a bi but lost to Joe Warren and it was this tournament that pretty much solidified Bibiano as the top FW in Asia.

It's just really interesting to look back at the career of everyone involved in those tournaments as I believe that was the first real exposure that the Featherweights got. And I feel old af now seeing KZ as the season veteran.


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Old 11-11-2018, 12:58   #3966
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Yea it's not common to see someone be that dominant from the bottom in the UFC anymore.

For me that just goes to show how noob Perry was...maybe I am wrong but I felt like UFC has been trying to hype Perry. Had he beaten Cerrone, they may even position him for a shot soon.

Edit: Were you impressed by Yair? I thought the ending was extremely sloppy but good on him. I also think KZ isn't the same anymore (age, injuries, time away from octagon to serve).
tbh I had zombie winning the fight, they both looked tired as fuck starting from the 3rd round, but imo zombie did more to win.

zombie made such a n00b mistake in the end rushing like that, he could have edged out a decision and at worst case scenario just lose a decision. Now he's going to be in the highlight reel for the rest of his life, for the wrong reasons.

I think yair is a good fighter for the UFC to have, flashy stand up fighter who's willing to throw down, I don't think he'll ever be champ.
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Old 11-11-2018, 13:11   #3967
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tbh I had zombie winning the fight, they both looked tired as fuck starting from the 3rd round, but imo zombie did more to win.

zombie made such a n00b mistake in the end rushing like that, he could have edged out a decision and at worst case scenario just lose a decision. Now he's going to be in the highlight reel for the rest of his life, for the wrong reasons.

I think yair is a good fighter for the UFC to have, flashy stand up fighter who's willing to throw down, I don't think he'll ever be champ.
KZ always fought like that. Being smart isn't part of his game

And agree 100% with your assessment of Yair.


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Old 11-11-2018, 13:21   #3968
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I still remember my first time watching KZ fight in Sengoku 7 (World Victory Road)'s Featherweight tourney. It was the first time that I dived in to the Featherweight Division as it was not in the UFC, and I actively followed the WEC but I would say at the time the lighter talents were still in Japan, namely Kid (RIP).

What an exciting time it was: DREAM (creation of former PRIDE and K-1 HERO's organizers) was also having their own Featherweight tourney, so lots of talented international Featherweight talents. Funnily enough, KZ was not even close to being the favorite of that tournament, not even a dark horse, though that may be partly due to being Korean. Hatsu Hioki was the clear favorite, and Marlon Sandro was the second favorite. The dark horses were Kanehara and Nam Pham. In the DREAM tournament, it was kind of set up to give Kid a belt. There were a lot of good veterans and prospects (Bibi) but none of their games seemed complete enough to beat Kid. Kid even got a bi but lost to Joe Warren and it was this tournament that pretty much solidified Bibiano as the top FW in Asia.

It's just really interesting to look back at the career of everyone involved in those tournaments as I believe that was the first real exposure that the Featherweights got. And I feel old af now seeing KZ as the season veteran.


just saw this, I'm bummed out I missed the old school days(I went back and watched them) but I feel we may see better worldwide mma if bellator and maybe even one keep growing.

scott coker's eye for talent is second to none and IMO one should focus on recruiting korean and japanese talents, steal them from rizin who so far seem like a complete gimmick.
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just saw this, I'm bummed out I missed the old school days(I went back and watched them) but I feel we may see better worldwide mma if bellator and maybe even one keep growing.

scott coker's eye for talent is second to none and IMO one should focus on recruiting korean and japanese talents, steal them from rizin who so far seem like a complete gimmick.
ONE FC is actually doing a decent job cultivating the Asian talents, and ROAD FC and HERO FC in Korea consistently produces solid competitors, and China even has 3 of their own promotions although they do a lot of cross-promotions with kickboxing fights (similar to K-1 HERO'S).

Bellator I feel like changed their focus. In the beginning I remember them being just their own small org and fostering kind of a cult following with some decent fighters. Then they decided to sign the mediocre guys from UFC to try to put on cards to "compete" with the UFC. I feel like I liked them better when they were growing their homegrown talent.

I really think UFC nowadays has too large of a roster. Its really difficult to keep up with the development of a fighter nowadays, and most of them are "pushed" way too soon.


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Old 11-11-2018, 15:29   #3970
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UFC definitely tries to push Perry and he is entertaining which counts for a lot in today's climate. The problem is that while I do think he's very funny, he's gatekeeper material at best.

But his fights are usually violent so I won't complain.


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Old 11-11-2018, 16:23   #3971
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yair has ducked zabit 3 times now.
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UFC definitely tries to push Perry and he is entertaining which counts for a lot in today's climate. The problem is that while I do think he's very funny, he's gatekeeper material at best.

But his fights are usually violent so I won't complain.
That was such a beginner armbar to be caught in


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That was such a beginner armbar to be caught in
He even has holes in his standup where he is supposed to be very good - he was a bit exposed vs that unranked fighter he lost too.

He's a funny guy with his hood thing and can get you fun fights but nowhere near as polished or complete enough to fight guys like Cerrone, I think that was obvious to anyone that follows the fight game somewhat seriously.


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Old 11-11-2018, 23:11   #3974
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why did he slam him rofl? made the job easier for donald to hypwrextend his arm. wonder how the recovery process works for this though. How long will it take for him to recover and would the arm heal completely to get back to the same shape it was prior to the armbar?
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why did he slam him rofl? made the job easier for donald to hypwrextend his arm. wonder how the recovery process works for this though. How long will it take for him to recover and would the arm heal completely to get back to the same shape it was prior to the armbar?
He slammed to be a typical rookie meathead.

"I can't get out with technique so I am going to try to spike your head hoping you let go". He deserved to get his arm broken.

If his arm broke, at least 6-8 weeks before he's able to roll again, don't know about contact sparring for striking.


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Old 12-11-2018, 08:25   #3976
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He slammed to be a typical rookie meathead.

"I can't get out with technique so I am going to try to spike your head hoping you let go". He deserved to get his arm broken.

If his arm broke, at least 6-8 weeks before he's able to roll again, don't know about contact sparring for striking.

I think atleast 4 months man.
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Old 14-11-2018, 14:14   #3977
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One FC is doing a Grand Prix

Excited and not excited at the same time


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Old 14-11-2018, 14:53   #3978
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Excited and not excited at the same time
Don't think it will go that well. Its not the 90's anymore, and fighters have learned to preserve their energy.

Hopefully its not as bad as this:



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frank mir has the most obvious roid gut in combat sports history
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frank mir has the most obvious roid gut in combat sports history
Yea, he's had it since he fought Sylvia


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