Ancelotti blamed for Barca setback

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Ancelotti blamed for Barca setback
Wednesday 3 November, 2004 (football Italia)


Milan’s defeat at the Nou Camp has brought back the criticism of their tactics from President Silvio Berlusconi and Andriy Shevchenko, while Jaap Stam requires surgery.
The Rossoneri were leading 1-0 through Shevchenko’s strike, but Barcelona pushed back and eventually won with a last-minute Ronaldinho goal. Some say the key was Carlo Ancelotti’s decision to field Kaka and Serginho in support of the lone centre-forward.

“President Berlusconi was watching the game on television and said it was unacceptable that Milan were playing with only one striker,” a close aide was quoted as saying in the press.
The patron – who is also Prime Minister of Italy and a multi-millionaire businessman – had already publicly ordered Ancelotti to field two forwards at all times over the last couple of years.
Ancelotti’s decision against Barca was dictated mainly by fitness worries, as Hernan Crespo and Jon Dahl Tomasson are struggling with injury, while Pippo Inzaghi did not even make the trip.

“Even if the tactical system was a different shape,” added Vice-President Adriano Galliani, “we were still playing with three attack-minded men upfront. I think that on Sunday against Roma we’ll go back to the more traditional two strikers.”

Shevchenko gave his analysis of the match after scoring his second in as many games against Barcelona.

“It’s a shame we were unable to win,” said the Balon d’Or candidate, “but in the second half Barca played great football and deserved this result. We could have done so much better, as after a while it became clear Barca didn’t know what else to do. We should have taken advantage at the time, but our mistake was thinking we could win it 1-0. You can’t try to defend against this side, but a few more piercing counter-attacks would have sunk them.”

Ancelotti himself revealed the reasoning behind this switch back to the 4-3-2-1, a system that had proved very successful in the early stages of Milan’s Champions’ League winning campaign of 2003.


“I had Serginho play slightly wider in order to stop Belletti bombing forward on that flank,” he explained. “It worked well for the first 30 minutes, but we weren’t aggressive enough in midfield and that’s where the game was lost.”


Nonetheless, the Rossoneri need just one point from their remaining two matches against Shakhtar Donetsk and Celtic to be sure of qualifying for the knockout stage after winning their first three encounters.


Meanwhile, there was more bad news for Milan, as this evening specialists have told Jaap Stam he could require surgery for a recurring tendon problem in his left ankle.
 

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I just hope that this game will be a valuable lesson for Carlo.He is
being criticized by Silvio again for not playing with two strikers but
the problem was not in the fact that Milan played with one attacker...the
problem was the hole aproach that Milan had for the game.That was Carlo's
fault.You can have one striker on the field and still play atacking.
Hey Barca play with one atacker with Eto'o,but they still play
atacking football.Like I say the problem was the hole aproach.
 
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Exactly what I'm saying, and Carlos fans here blaming me for it when it's true!
We could've play with Sheva,Kaka,Tomasson up front and it would still be the same!
 

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Different approach, winning spirit, attack-mindedness, 10 strikers... that's all bla-bla + doesn't solve the problem we have against opposition that play a very fast attacking game. We look slow + helpless cos we are slow + helpless; with people like Gattuso, Ambrosini + out-of-form Kaka' + out-of-form (+ generally slow) Pirlo + generally slow Rui + generally slow Seedorf you might get away with a lucky win against some mediocre + equally slow-paced Serie A side but not against Barcelona or any other team that plays attacking football on that level, which is a level ABOVE Milan's.

Milan's problem is its midfield, I've been saying this forever now + see my opinion confirmed more + more. Last season Kaka' + partially Seedorf during his 6 or 7 match spell of greatness made ALL the difference as they injected pace + ideas, this season, with Kaka' playing like shit (save 2 matches) + Seedorf doing same we're sluggish + toothless + just push the ball around a bit, more or less relying on Sheva to put it in some way (against smaller teams), or don't get to see much of the ball at all (against Barcelona).

How can you impose your play onto the opponent when there is no 'play' to begin with ? When there is a total absence of creativity ? When those who are supposed to win balls give away possession all the time due to their technical inferiority ? This is Milan's current problem + not whether we field 1 or 2 strikers :o We need creative midfielders who are quicker, mentally + physically, + def mids who are capable of contributing slightly more than committing fouls.

Another problem is fitness. It can't be that our players are still suffering from fitness problems, it's November, so by now MilanLab's masterplan should have shown some signs of working at least reasonably well. The attitude, the confidence... will come with aptitude + fitness. When you know deep inside you can't compete cos you're in a sorry condition physically, well, then all will power + determination won't make you play better cos you simply CAN'T...
 

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Carlo Fans must Understand Well
Really Selvio he is not only president but he is (Milan money maker)..
Rich man and Coach....
he is ppl Always Remember Sacchi and Cappelo but they Fortgot me..
and that is True according 2 me without Silvio milan Could be likes of .
Empoli,atlanta,napoli..and so on year they are Seria another one they in
In seria B......and so really i am great fan of Silvio for what he did for our
team....

Forza milan and the mad man and Milan money maker
 

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Let's just face the fact that they played a lot better than us and they willed themselves harder to win. We played great defense, one of the best defense in the world, second only to the home game against the same team.

Why can't we just accept it that we lost to a better team or to the genius of 1 player (Ronaldinho).

People complained when we won 1-0 at the San Siro but played like crap. I don't hear people complaining when we played like shit but still won the CL 2003. Or when we won the 94-95 season by scoring less than 20 goals. In fact, when Marco van Basten won the top scorer in 92, half of his 25 goals came from penalty. Or when Brazil won the 94 World Cup? But does it matter? No!!! What mattered at the end is who won and who lost.

What I'm trying to say is, sometimes we won but played terribly. In other times we lost but we played great. The lost to Barca was because our opponent is simply better than us. That's it.

So take it easy on Carlo, he guided us through some of the best years that we have in the last decade. Do not desert him.
 

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Well the defeat against Barca goes on Carlos's acount and that is it.
I like Carlo and would not trade him for any coach in the world
but against Barca he fielded a team that was doomed to fail.From the start
of the game from the first minute if the game you could see
that Milan were going to defend their selves.The problem against Barca is that Carlo firlded a midfield Serginho,Gattuso,Ambro,Pirlo.Serginho has not played regulary and
at his age he is better when he comes as a sub than playing a hole
game especialy against Barca.I think that this season and corect me
if I'm wrong he has not started a single game for Milan right?-and
Carlo plays him against Barca.Barca played "pressing" against Milan
and that resulted in a lot of lost balls.CArlo thought that
Gattuso and Ambro can winn balls and with counter atacks we can hurt them.
But as you saw as soon as one of Ambro or Gattuso would win the ball
the instanty lost it.Against Barca we needed players that can hold the
ball with good feet and maybe Rui is not at his best but I'm sure
that he would have made the diference.Cos' Milan have not so quality
atackers exept Sheva so if Carlo wanted a more closed formation aganist
Barca maybe could have played Rui insted of Ambro and Serginho,Kaka and
Sheva in atack.Anyway I hope that Carlo in the future does not field Ambro
and Gattuso in the same line up cos' we are doomed to fail.
I'm not saying that if Rui played we would have won,maybe we would have
lost but we wouldn't have emmbaresed our selves like that.Carlo always
says that when Milan play home against smaller sides,the smaller sides
always close in defence and play on counter atacks and that makes you think if you see how Milan played against Barca?But I think that Milan are not that inferior to Barca so that they play so defencively.We can argue here and bitch Carlo for the lost game but I think that he got the lesson after this game.
 
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**disregard this post and delete plz**
 
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Ancelotti must go ;)
 

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mad4milan said:
There are talks going around planet internet that Silvio's planning to get Zeman (Lecce's coach) for next season.

Apparently, the sources come from Italian radio. So far, I can't find anything in writing so I don't really know if there's any truth to this or just some folks pulling a quite early April Fool's joke.

Perhaps the Italian residents would know more about this? :conf:


Zeman sucks!!!Maybe he is a good coach for Lecce but not Milan.He never had a big success managing a big team.Its just a rumor.Anceloti is doing his job good.He has extended hi contract and I don't know why there a rumors about Zeman:conf:
 

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>>> Edi: A whole day without anything in writing pretty much comfirmed by inital suspicion when my mate sent me the email, that it was a bunch of nonsense. (like that kaka leaving "rumour" that went around last year)

Anyway, since I can't manually delete my post, I edited it + asked to disregard. I suggest that you do the same.
 
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Passion for *9* said:
Different approach, winning spirit, attack-mindedness, 10 strikers... that's all bla-bla + doesn't solve the problem we have against opposition that play a very fast attacking game.

Spot on Passion! :D Ancelotti wasn't the problem last night the players playd horribly and that was what went wrong. We are missing a lot of players due to fitness and injury so who else is he supposed to play. I like Silvio, but if wants to be the coach then he should just fire Ancelotti and take over - if not keep your mouth shut or at least address him behind closed doors. Tomasson and Crespo are both having problems and Serginho has been playing well, so I think he made the right decision on who to start. Fact is we looked slow and allowed them to attack all game. Our midfield did nothing to hold the ball or take any pressure of the defense at all. :mad:
 

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I don't blame Ancelotti at all for this defeat. First of all, people are saying we were too defensive. To be honest, when you are 1-0 up against one of the most prolific attacking teams in the world, I really don't think it's advisable to play them at their own game. When you do that, it turns into a lottery, and with the way Kaka and Serghinho were playing, we wouldn't have done too well. The best thing we could have done was stay solid in defense and hit with fast counter attacks. Abd that, i'm sure, was Ancelotti's game plan. Unfortunately, the big problem was the midfield. Milan have one of the most talented midfeilds in the world but on Wednesday night, they just couldn't remember how to pass. Every time we tried to break, we lost the ball and suffered more pressure from Barca. With all fairness, Barca pressed very well, almost forcing us to make these errors in midfield. With the midfielders playing so badly, I don't think any tactic would have worked for us that night.
 

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I don't think you watched the game boy.
We wasn't just too defensive, we couldnt get the touch of the ball for almost an hour!
 

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Riccardo said:
I don't blame Ancelotti at all for this defeat. First of all, people are saying we were too defensive. To be honest, when you are 1-0 up against one of the most prolific attacking teams in the world, I really don't think it's advisable to play them at their own game. When you do that, it turns into a lottery, and with the way Kaka and Serghinho were playing, we wouldn't have done too well. The best thing we could have done was stay solid in defense and hit with fast counter attacks. Abd that, i'm sure, was Ancelotti's game plan. Unfortunately, the big problem was the midfield. Milan have one of the most talented midfeilds in the world but on Wednesday night, they just couldn't remember how to pass. Every time we tried to break, we lost the ball and suffered more pressure from Barca. With all fairness, Barca pressed very well, almost forcing us to make these errors in midfield. With the midfielders playing so badly, I don't think any tactic would have worked for us that night.

good point.
 

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Barca showed real attacking football,they were too hot for our dear milan to handle,we narrowly escaped here in italy but in nou camp the inevitable happened.
 

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YUGOSLAVIAN said:
Ancelotti must go ;)
this is the craziest post i've read here!!!
 

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Well, I'm glad you read it ;)
 

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But it's still not right. The guy guided us to CL, Copa, Euro Super Cup, Scudetto. And you want him sacked because of 1 defeat? Although we still have a very good chance to qualify? Come on....
 

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Ancelotti is a great coach for Milan. I hope he stays for a long time to come. I am not blaming him for loosing against Barca.
 

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gaizka22 said:
But it's still not right. The guy guided us to CL, Copa, Euro Super Cup, Scudetto. And you want him sacked because of 1 defeat? Although we still have a very good chance to qualify? Come on....

LOL, I don't want him suck because of the ( one ) game, I wanted him sucked since he took of the charge of Milan. Better read more post before answering the question.
 

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Yugo mate, I think the point was aiming at the fact of what Ancelotti has won since his stay which is pretty amazing. The trophies he won would indicate that he is the right man for Milan. It looks like you don't like him personally, but he is the doing his job very well.
 

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