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LocalHero80 · Nov 13, 2018

he's worth at least the same, considering he played a good season for a club like Milan and not some bundesfodder, his free kicks arent great, but his set pieces? he delivers great crosses. Not his fault we have noone to win the air.

LocalHero80 · Nov 13, 2018

another question is if someone will buy him in this state, and thats another good reason to let him get into shape till next season.

Samaldinho · Nov 13, 2018

His free-kicks need to improve. That's true.

His crosses and corners have been excellent, even while he's injured. Again, for the thousandth time: he's playing injured.

Also, we switched from 4-4-2 to 4-3-3 pretty quick into the Juve game, and Hakan was playing at LCM. I hate him playing there. It is a waste. He's good defensively for a LW, CAM, or whatever. But he's not good enough in that aspect as an LCM.

And when we played 3-5-2, again, while he was injured, he was not playing as a LW, rather, he was playing as a LCM in a midfield three with Baka and Kessie.

So, if you're asking him to score goals and all that, you're missing the point: he's not been playing in his attacking position, but as the distributor of the ball in the midfield.

Milan10 · Nov 13, 2018

Burlesqoni said:
I don't think that's the way inflation works.

That's how a depreciating asset works.

"Why is my car not worth more than when I bought it!?"

I would argue that his value has dropped since we bought him. He kind of proved to be what we feared: A bit of a headcase that lets off the field issues affect his performance on the pitch.

Hopefully I'm wrong and he turns into a great player, but I see no reason to believe he will

Samaldinho · Nov 13, 2018

It is him playing with injuries and in a different position that is impacting fans' perspective on his play.

He could play as a keeper and people would still say he's not doing his job without irony.

LocalHero80 · Nov 13, 2018

Samaldinho said:
It is him playing with injuries and in a different position that is impacting fans' perspective on his play.

He could play as a keeper and people would still say he's not doing his job without irony.

and he's playing half injured just cause Rino knows all his backups are even worse. Lets hate him for that

Buske · Nov 13, 2018

Samaldinho said:
Again, for the thousandth time: he's playing injured.

Not everyone here believes this, and i understand them.

Alot ppl think that its only Gattuso trying to defend his poor play. Like, why play him if he is injured? Why not rest him to recover faster, and not risk bigger injury? The truth is probably somewhere in the middle liek always... he suck right now and maybe he has some slight issue, but nothing too big.

That being said, im not the one that wants him sold yet. I think he showed some skills last season that noone in this team can do. I hope he can recover his form but needs to do it fast. We dont need a player that can be awesome for 5-10 games, then become almost useless for the rest of the season

LocalHero80 · Nov 13, 2018

You dont have to "believe" when you can see it. He barely ran in recent games. And Rino said why, the same reason he keeps playing Kessie. Why, cause others are shite.

MarioReality · Nov 13, 2018

.Milan's transfer market in January will be substantial. Milan is likely to search for a striker, a defender (due to injuries) and a midfielder. Leonardo and Gazidis are already working to give reinforcements to Gattuso in January. [Sky] https://t.co/YdyQZTnqDe

MarioReality · Nov 13, 2018

Leandro Paredes.

What a class purchase by leonardo

General · Nov 13, 2018

MarioReality said:
.Milan's transfer market in January will be substantial. Milan is likely to search for a striker, a defender (due to injuries) and a midfielder. Leonardo and Gazidis are already working to give reinforcements to Gattuso in January. [Sky] https://t.co/YdyQZTnqDe

LocalHero80 · Nov 13, 2018

one midfielder? no way

Samaldinho · Nov 13, 2018

The alternative to playing a hurt Hakan, who wants to play, is to play Mauri. Or Berto. Or Montolivo.

People shit on Calabria (unfairly, I think) and then when Abate comes in, and shits the bed (he's been very bad this season, more than usual) and then after Gattuso sees that, people wonder why Gattuso would try a 3-5-2 instead of keeping Abate out there?

Hakan is being a team player. Gattuso talked about how people don't realize what players were doing to play for the team.

I also think Gattuso doesn't really pretend or sugar-coat things. He's honest. I think he respects Hakan for playing through injury. I mean, there was a point where he couldn't put his boot on a day or two before playing a full match.

Polotelli · Nov 13, 2018

LocalHero80 said:
one midfielder? no way

ikr, at least 3

Colossus · Nov 13, 2018

Abate has been far better than Laxalt. That hybrid 352 makes me want to hurl. The 343 shape we played in the second half against Betis was more watchable, but the 442 is the best option right now. Abate has not been near as bad as people make him out to be. Calabria has also been quite good

MarioReality · Nov 13, 2018

paqueta + another midfielder.

LocalHero80 · Nov 13, 2018

MarioReality said:
paqueta + another midfielder.

i was counting paqueta already

we were supposed to buy one more mid before biglia and bona got injured

Congo Powers · Nov 13, 2018

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/7673257/arsenal-scout-gilles-grimandi-ivan-gazidis-ac-milan/

rocknrolla1v1 · Nov 13, 2018

French Takeover

rocknrolla1v1 · Nov 13, 2018

Unpopular Opinion Warning: Hakan wasn't that great or influential before the fantom injury either

Rossonero1028 · Nov 13, 2018

MarioReality...i wish i could belive that we buy Paredes but the media says were only intrestet not more...

Burlesqoni · Nov 13, 2018

Milan10 said:
That's how a depreciating asset works.

"Why is my car not worth more than when I bought it!?"

I would argue that his value has dropped since we bought him. He kind of proved to be what we feared: A bit of a headcase that lets off the field issues affect his performance on the pitch.

Hopefully I'm wrong and he turns into a great player, but I see no reason to believe he will

First of all, the car analogy just doesn't make any sense. Well unless he was a new born when Milan got him, then maybe...

Even if he was a 'depreciating asset', which is jumping the gun imo, the inflated market should have his price be at least what we paid for him. If we did sell him for the same amount we bought him, that would be the decrease in value since 20m now isn't worth 20m 2 years ago.

MarioReality · Nov 13, 2018

popular opinion mrnews the best source for all milan related transfer news.

Oedipus · Nov 13, 2018

rocknrolla1v1 said:
Unpopular Opinion Warning: Hakan wasn't that great or influential before the fantom injury either

Agreed. I loved Hakan at the end of last season, but this season he has been pretty terrible

MilanMB · Nov 13, 2018

Burlesqoni said:
First of all, the car analogy just doesn't make any sense. Well unless he was a new born when Milan got him, then maybe...

Even if he was a 'depreciating asset', which is jumping the gun imo, the inflated market should have his price be at least what we paid for him. If we did sell him for the same amount we bought him, that would be the decrease in value since 20m now isn't worth 20m 2 years ago.

get lost

Burlesqoni · Nov 13, 2018

MilanMB said:
get lost

This is a very unattractive side of yours.

I'ma gonna stay.

MilanMB · Nov 13, 2018

rocknrolla1v1 said:
Unpopular Opinion Warning: Hakan wasn't that great or influential before the fantom injury either

This is true though.

What I saw in Hakan last season was promise, I was hoping he'd build on the second part of last season and get even better to become great and influential, but alas... I'm not ready to sell yet though.

Raz · Nov 13, 2018

MarioReality said:
popular opinion mrnews the best source for all milan related transfer news.

Very reliable in its unreliability

Rossonero1028 · Nov 13, 2018

If Gattuso changes to the 4-3-3 formation again, Paquetà will be used as a ‘mezzala’. However, if Gattuso continues with the 4-4-2 formation, Paquetà could be used as a striker along with Higuain, or behind him. (Sky)

Montolivo, Bertolacci and Jose Mauri could all leave Milan in January, if an interesting offer arrives for them. (Sky)

Alec · Nov 13, 2018

Hakan just needs to get his fucking marbles together and not randomly check in and check out. When the guy is on, he works well offensively and works his ass off defensively, covering for Bona and his bum workrate.

But the problem is that regularly he relegates himself to a passenger and can't do shit besides look for his own shot and sometimes not even that. If you wear the 10, you need to grab the game by the balls. If you want to start for Milan, you better be ready to leave it all out there every game.

Obviously selling Hakan in January is stupid since we already have so few players that can play decently but if he isn't getting much better, we should definitely shop him around for those dumb EPL clubs that will overpay for mediocrity all the time(worse than us :lol:

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