Riccardo Montolivo Thread

How do you like Montolivo?


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I love the idea of this signing I'm always excited when we sign quality Italian players. I just hope it happens now, i remember a few years ago people were calling for him to be signed as he had a lot of talent but it seems like he hasn't fulfilled it. Hopefully he can step up his game a bit in milan. Come on galliani get it done mate!
 

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could be a good buy,

i read a report: 6mil + paloshi for montolivo = crazy
 

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who cares what religion, or lack of, that anyone follows? There are assholes in every religion, i find the nicest people are ones who do not follow a single religion. I have more respect for montolivo now.

Haha, you seem to care about it reading your last two sentences. :lol:
 

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for the prices i see now, AWESOME, go for both montolivo and aquilani...big picture is that a lot of our midfielders are old (bommel, ambro,rino,seedorf) and its gonna be hard to replace all of them at once. Gotta pounce at any good deal for decent players. Cant spend 30 million each for 4 midfielders:lol: Every signing doesnt have to be a mr x signing to be a good one...
 

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if we sign Montolivo as LCM and Ganso as trequartista, i'll give my hope up for CL. Whenever Milan played Flamini at LCM and made Gattuso-Van Bommel and Flamini, we suffered and lost many points.

Montolivo is not a mezz'ala. Ganso is not big signing. good player but not big name. He is really 55 m euros worth player? Ganso is worth 15-20 m euros at most in my opinion. İnjury prone+ slow + didnt prove himself at highest level.

Even inter fans doesnt rate them. if you sign quality players who make difference, rival fans doesnt want this signings. as i didnt want juventus to sign Aguero or i dont want juventus to sign Vidal. But i wanted juventus to sign Pirlo or Ziegler but Lazio's RB, i didnt want.
 

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if we sign Montolivo as LCM and Ganso as trequartista, i'll give my hope up for CL. Whenever Milan played Flamini at LCM and made Gattuso-Van Bommel and Flamini, we suffered and lost many points.

Montolivo is not a mezz'ala. Ganso is not big signing. good player but not big name. He is really 55 m euros worth player? Ganso is worth 15-20 m euros at most in my opinion. İnjury prone+ slow + didnt prove himself at highest level.

Even inter fans doesnt rate them. if you sign quality players who make difference, rival fans doesnt want this signings. as i didnt want juventus to sign Aguero or i dont want juventus to sign Vidal. But i wanted juventus to sign Pirlo or Ziegler but Lazio's RB, i didnt want.

I agree Ganso is slowely but surely looking less and less like the player to take Milan forward if we get Monty, but that surely means that Monty for cheap is a good piece of business as long as we get a mobile, fast, dynamic CAM ahead of him, no?

All this Monty bashing is getting boring now, no ones saying he's the best option, but he's a good option. No one actually knows the full extent of the Fininvest fines affect on our budget, perhaps the fact we're closely being linked with Monty shows that we have cash for one big player and thats it, not Mr X plus one from Hamsik, Pastore, Nasri. If thats the case Monty for LCM at under 10 million, and Pastore or someone of a higher class is surely a very good piece of market movement by Milan.

As was mentioned earlier we're building a pretty much new midfield unit, if by some miracle we land Monty, Aquilani plus a Pastore type signing, thats 3 less players to replace next Summer... If we get Pastore and Monty this Summer, then a similar quality couple of midfielders next Summer, mainly a new DM and probably CM, we've overhauled our midfield in a very short time frame. We're not getting 2 Mr X's this Summer, then another 2 next year along with Nesta's replacement, lets be real people!

To mention other Italian clubs signing big, least we forget the biggest movers in the market over the past 12 months, that I'd say was Milan with Ibra, Binho, Prince, Urby, Cassano and MvB to name but a few. People actually thinking we'd be lucky enough to get a similar ammount this yearshouldn't be too put out, we haven't been too hard done by. So far we've signed one of Italy's best youngsters plus two very good free transfers, Monty and one more on top of that is a very competative market, lets not get too down because some bought into the B&G usualy bullshit about champions, Mr X's only to be fed the usualy we're competative and the team is complete.. Can we not agree that come the end of this market Milan is a shadow of the team that stubbled to the Europa League not to long ago!
 

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Fiorentina lining up a MF replacement
Arouca confirms Fiorentina offer


The agent of Santos man Marcos Arouca has confirmed “we are in negotiations with Fiorentina” over a €6m move.
The midfielder has been linked with a switch to Serie A since January, but the Viola could not act until now because of the limit on non-EU players.

“I was contacted by Fiorentina directors and they asked for information on Arouca, so we are in negotiations,” agent Richard Alda told Globoesporte.

“There is a good chance he could make the move, but it all depends on what Santos decide to do.”

It is reported the price-tag on Arouca is around €6m and his current contract with Santos runs to 2014.

“I know that Santos have already received an initial proposal, but I cannot say what their intentions are.”

Arouca was signed from San Paolo last year for €3.5m.
 

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bring him here and i wont ask for poli, After MvB monty will be the anchor, not enough bite but he can hold things together.
8 million :thumbsup: but where are the required players? Cesc / hamsik .. hey I trust in B&G blindly
 

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Fiorentina lining up a MF replacement

Arouca is an excellent midfielder from what I've seen and heard, and probably more of a balanced player than Montolivo. Very good way to sort this out for Fiorentina, especially is Jovetic is coming back imo.
 

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I've said before that Milan need to regain the ability to move the ball through the midfield. That won't be achieved by signing the likes of Ganso, who wait to be given the ball once every 5 minutes so they can try something special. What's required for a more effective possession game is a player exactly like Montolivo, who'll work hard to keep Milan ticking over and moving forward with lots of short, simple passes. That's his strength, and playing as part of a 4-man midfield would allow him to concentrate on that, while the other 3 provide the muscle (Van Bommel), running (Flamini) and creativity in the final third (new AM).

He's a limited player, but I think he'd be a good fit. That said, if Milan sign Hamsik to play AM I would prefer to see a LCM with better vision and range of passing than Montolivo.
 

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That said, if Milan sign Hamsik to play AM I would prefer to see a LCM with better vision and range of passing than Montolivo.

i get the vision but not sure i get the range. Hamsik drops deep quite a bit and connects attack well. I would imagine more range might be needed with someone like pastore at CAM.

Alot of it depends on right side too, if boateng/flamini can build upon last year
 

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i get the vision but not sure i get the range. Hamsik drops deep quite a bit and connects attack well. I would imagine more range might be needed with someone like pastore at CAM.

Alot of it depends on right side too, if boateng/flamini can build upon last year

Milan really could use 3 new midfielders.

I take your point about range of passing. Although I think Pastore (or similar) would benefit hugely from having Montolivo supplying him. People only ever seem to speak about quality of service in reference to strikers, but the majority of attacking midfielders and wingers would be fucked without someone like Montolivo/Modric providing a constant stream of quick, accurate passes.
 

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I've said before that Milan need to regain the ability to move the ball through the midfield. That won't be achieved by signing the likes of Ganso, who wait to be given the ball once every 5 minutes so they can try something special. What's required for a more effective possession game is a player exactly like Montolivo, who'll work hard to keep Milan ticking over and moving forward with lots of short, simple passes. That's his strength, and playing as part of a 4-man midfield would allow him to concentrate on that, while the other 3 provide the muscle (Van Bommel), running (Flamini) and creativity in the final third (new AM).

He's a limited player, but I think he'd be a good fit. That said, if Milan sign Hamsik to play AM I would prefer to see a LCM with better vision and range of passing than Montolivo.

Yes I agree. It was painfull at times, to watch how much difficulty the team had moving the ball from defense to attack last season. Especially in the CL there were big problems with this, particularly in the first half against Tottenham. Robinho did somewhat solve this problem though being an excellent link up player, since he likes to come deep and get the ball, but it's clear that this problem needs to be solved if we want to get anywhere int he CL. I do think Galliani and co is aware of this though, so I'm not to worried.
 

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Milan really could use 3 new midfielders.

I take your point about range of passing. Although I think Pastore (or similar) would benefit hugely from having Montolivo supplying him. People only ever seem to speak about quality of service in reference to strikers, but the majority of attacking midfielders and wingers would be fucked without someone like Montolivo/Modric providing a constant stream of quick, accurate passes.

agreed on both points. Sometimes my biggest complaint with pirlo or generally milan's philosophy was use of trequartista made him a bit unnecessary, he either played it simply (which he can do but is a complete waste of his passing range) or he tried to over extend the ball and then leave players inbetween useless. It's why I think his form was more consistent with italy, as he was creative focal point, but that's a different issue.

Montolivo is a very good passer, just not a great one. But he does exactly what you want if you got a CAM ahead of him.

I agree on 3rd midfielder. I said it in another thread but it seems allegri/galliani are putting a lot of faith in boateng's ability to continue growing. Ideally he grows into a player like lampard or what yaya toure did last year. But i feel that's presumptuous. A player who can do similar as montolivo on otherside. Hold possession and drive it forward, by pass or dribble

I wished Milan would have signed Witsel. He was poor in that one friendly, but other times i'd seen him, he fit the bill.
 

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the news of a possible sending off of paloschi and 5 mill. for monty does seem intriguing but sending him away could be because of room in that department..
 

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I'm not so worried he won't fit into our midfield. My biggest issue with him is he aint got the Milan Face. Aside from all that Montolivo will, if he joins, suprise by playing better as ever in our Mid because unlike Fio we got some players who make guys like Monto play better.

Eventho i'm not entirely sure we'd sign him. If I had to advise Juventus on their signings I'd advise them Montolivo right away in this current situation. Montolivo & Pirlo, probably not a great defensive pair to have but also not the worst pair to have. + feeding a cam, a st & two wingers could be interesting.
 
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Milan really could use 3 new midfielders.

I agree on 3rd midfielder. I said it in another thread but it seems allegri/galliani are putting a lot of faith in boateng's ability to continue growing. Ideally he grows into a player like lampard or what yaya toure did last year. But i feel that's presumptuous.

Boateng has the ability to grow further, I've never had doubts about that. His weakness currently is probably the same weakness of many young players these days. He thinks he can do something which he actually cannot. Many a time the last season, he has gone for flicks and backpasses when they were not needed.

But his strengths - positional awareness, aggression, ground clearance, technically acceptable passing - are more than enough for him to make up on his weaknesses (and give him time to improve). He should hold down a spot in our midfield - I'm fairly certain he has the temperament to do so.
 

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Boateng has the ability to grow further, I've never had doubts about that. His weakness currently is probably the same weakness of many young players these days. He thinks he can do something which he actually cannot. Many a time the last season, he has gone for flicks and backpasses when they were not needed.

But his strengths - positional awareness, aggression, ground clearance, technically acceptable passing - are more than enough for him to make up on his weaknesses (and give him time to improve). He should hold down a spot in our midfield - I'm fairly certain he has the temperament to do so.

He's certainly got potential to. I'd like more certainty/maturity and have him break thru as a squad player.

But then again we got Gattuso and Ambrosini both of whom are certainties in terms of what we will get and flamini i suppose. Gattuso will play a large role this year, I am certain of it.

I want to make it clear though if i had my way flamini be one out for someone like Vidal or Guarin, heck maybe even isla who plays mostly RB but more of a utilize player a la zanetti anyway with more technique and less girth.
 

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He's certainly got potential to. I'd like more certainty/maturity and have him break thru as a squad player.

But then again we got Gattuso and Ambrosini both of whom are certainties in terms of what we will get and flamini i suppose. Gattuso will play a large role this year, I am certain of it.

I want to make it clear though if i had my way flamini be one out for someone like Vidal or Guarin, heck maybe even isla who plays mostly RB but more of a utilize player a la zanetti anyway with more technique and less girth.

I agree w/ pretty much everything said, gatt and amb will be large parts this year and we should sell flams to get somebody else while he still has value and we can get a better player who is better suited to our style than flams
 

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I agree w/ pretty much everything said, gatt and amb will be large parts this year and we should sell flams to get somebody else while he still has value and we can get a better player who is better suited to our style than flams

People really want to keep a 33yr old Gattuso and have him be a LARGE part of our team this year?

I'm all for Seedorf, Gattuso... as bench players. Role players. Tactical subs. Leaders...

But these guys cannot be regular starters. That's rediculous.
 

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Looks like Fiorentina have Aquilani in mind to replace Montolivo,
 
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