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Old 15-09-2017, 19:07   #581
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Old 15-09-2017, 19:21   #582
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It matters because Serie A doesn't technically "have" 4 spots. Its the top 4 leagues that have 4th spot. If France overtakes Serie A then its back to 3 spots
The gap is too big. Don't think it's doable for France


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Old 28-09-2017, 15:52   #583
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Old 28-09-2017, 18:56   #584
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Old 28-09-2017, 19:27   #585
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Old 28-09-2017, 23:00   #586
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Old 28-09-2017, 23:17   #587
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Old 28-09-2017, 23:21   #588
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Old 28-09-2017, 23:24   #589
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Serie A a full point ahead of Bundesfodder now, after Milan's win and Atalanta's draw.


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Old 28-09-2017, 23:59   #590
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Who really cares now though, we all have four spots?
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Old 29-09-2017, 00:13   #591
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Old 29-09-2017, 01:29   #592
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Who really cares now though, we all have four spots?
France led by PSG can be a threat in the future .


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Old 29-09-2017, 08:31   #593
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Old 29-09-2017, 21:59   #594
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France led by PSG can be a threat in the future .
You look at a club like Lyon, they might have a good team 1 year but then they're shit the next. You need a strong core not a couple of great teams


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You look at a club like Lyon, they might have a good team 1 year but then they're shit the next. You need a strong core not a couple of great teams
I see PSG and Monaco as their core in CL, and Nice doing well in EL this year. While I don't see them getting 14 points every year like last year. If say German teams start playing like shit (their teams are not taking EL seriously) then yeah France could threaten them. Also next year they're going to get rid of that 13/14 bad year.

France in my opinion are producing the best talents the last few years, and with the big money spending that PSG is doing, it garner interest in their league. They have a long way to go to compete with Italy and Germany but you can't just write them off as a farmer league anymore.


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Old 30-09-2017, 08:42   #596
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As always, this moronic coefficient system depends on the Europa League performance first and foremost. More points to be had there and teams from the big leagues have easier opponents there.

So just as Germany got 3rd primarily by doing well in EL, Ligue 1 can also easily end up racking the points there.

It's a broken system and has no real correlation to the relative strengths of a league.


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Nah, the gaps are way bigger than you give credit. France is lightyears away from Germany/Italy and all this while they're having a good run. Soon the tide might turn. Their fight is with Portugal and Russia.


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Old 30-09-2017, 09:16   #598
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Think we have more chance of catching germany up tbh, only bayern and dortmund seem decent

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shame about the no bonus EL, think itll be a long tine before we catch up england. Germany looks more likely tbh


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Old 30-09-2017, 11:52   #599
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Nah, the gaps are way bigger than you give credit. France is lightyears away from Germany/Italy and all this while they're having a good run. Soon the tide might turn. Their fight is with Portugal and Russia.
As you keep shedding past years, the difference between France and Germany keeps dropping. In 2019 ranking, France is only 9 points behind Italy and Germany. With only last season and this season so far, they are ahead of Germany. Who knows - with the way EL is, I can totally see French teams getting more points than German teams for a couple of seasons and that's that.

My point is that with the system being so broken, it's not easy to predict just on the basis of the relative quality of leagues. Fluke point-scoring can easily happen.

To further illustrate my point, take a look at the 2008 ranking table: https://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert...crank2008.html

France (52) ahead of Germany (48) and Russia (43) and the 3 of them seem engaged in a fight for the 4th place. Italy is quite a bit ahead (60) in 3rd place, 12 points ahead of Germany. (Only 9 pts gap between France and Germany in 2019 rankings).

Fast forward 2 years to 2010 and Germany has caught up with Italy. They would overtake them in 2011.
https://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert...crank2010.html

So things can change very quickly.


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Old 30-09-2017, 12:46   #600
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I disagree. Italy fluked one year and a lot were on #coefficientforce only to be turned down year after year. Need more than that. (same when Portugal got ahead of ITA on the starting block one year) We'll see if Italy can protect third spot till the end of the year. atm it was near prfect round with 1 draw and all other won while bundessniffers all (!!!) lost (most had tough games as well).


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