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Old 21-01-2018, 05:41   #3181
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ngannou in a legit camp would be fantastic


I've seen clips of him clinching/grappling with his coach...it seems rudimentary


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Old 21-01-2018, 05:42   #3182
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ngannou in a legit camp would be fantastic


I've seen clips of him clinching/grappling with his coach...it seems rudimentary
Yea.

His hips are stiff af. You can tell he knows to underhook but never scoots his hip out, so he can never sweep


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Old 21-01-2018, 05:43   #3183
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“You are awesome”

That was kind of gay
I missed that, what happened?


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Old 21-01-2018, 05:44   #3184
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I missed that, what happened?
Miocic’s corner was like

“Hey, you are AWESOME” to Stipe.


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Old 21-01-2018, 05:46   #3185
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Miocic’s corner was like

“Hey, you are AWESOME” to Stipe.


awesome would be someone like cain who would have submitted ngannou in the first round.


btw DC

thought he ate too many shots from ozedmir tho...took them really well but he shouldn't be taking these many shots.


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Old 21-01-2018, 05:49   #3186
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stiopic should have worn a singlet tonight


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Old 21-01-2018, 05:49   #3187
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plot twist

ngannou ko's him with a clothesline from hell


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stiopic breaks the HW defense record, boring fight


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Old 21-01-2018, 05:54   #3188
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Maybe it's just me not knowing better, but I expected better boxing technique from Ngannou in the first round before he gassed. It looked like all explosiveness but mainly loopy hits. Besides his predictable uppercut, his boxing seems weak considering that's his background.

Great grinding victory, knew Stipe had it in him. Disappointed in Francis.


Other fight DC really fucking amazing. Volkan obviously not ready yet for that stage, got completely outclassed. Great performance. Now one more fight vs Gustafson and one against clean Jones would be dreamlike.


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Old 21-01-2018, 05:57   #3189
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miocic is funny


btw, apparently rogan and cruz were getting pissed at each other during commentary? I missed it..what happened?


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Old 21-01-2018, 05:57   #3190
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ngannou in a legit camp would be fantastic


I've seen clips of him clinching/grappling with his coach...it seems rudimentary
Consider that he claimed he's been training for Stipe before the Overeem fight. Really makes you think either his camp is trash or he doesn't learn well.

I can only reiterate - his boxing is kinda disappointing. I don't expect him to be a good grappler but he should be better at his calling card. Then again, maybe his calling card simply is his physique.

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btw, apparently rogan and cruz were getting pissed at each other during commentary? I missed it..what happened?
I love how he sounds like a chain smoker pre fighter and like an alcoholic after fights

I don't think anything serious between Joe and Cruz, just Rogan saying some hyperbolic shit(that's a new one, right? ) and Cruz laughing about it.


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Old 21-01-2018, 06:00   #3191
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Consider that he claimed he's been training for Stipe before the Overeem fight. Really makes you think either his camp is trash or he doesn't learn well.

I can only reiterate - his boxing is kinda disappointing. I don't expect him to be a good grappler but he should be better at his calling card. Then again, maybe his calling card simply is his physique.
His grappling is even weaker.

I think he can still be a great fighter. But he is VERY raw. Kind of remind me of Sokoudjou when he first started KOing people.

Once Sokoudjou got KTFOed though, his career went to shit.


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Old 21-01-2018, 06:03   #3192
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Consider that he claimed he's been training for Stipe before the Overeem fight. Really makes you think either his camp is trash or he doesn't learn well.

I can only reiterate - his boxing is kinda disappointing. I don't expect him to be a good grappler but he should be better at his calling card. Then again, maybe his calling card simply is his physique.
it's definitely his physique, he never really had time to show what he's capable of and he's always been with his coach from france..and lets be honest the mma scene in france isn't exactly world class, AFAIK pro mma is banned there.

but if he joins a real training camp, sky is the limit, especially in the HW division where old men can still dominate.

even though he got totally exposed for his skills, he lasted 5 rounds with miocic who ko'd werdum,JDS,overeem etc. so that is definitely a positive.


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Old 21-01-2018, 06:06   #3193
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His grappling is even weaker.

I think he can still be a great fighter. But he is VERY raw. Kind of remind me of Sokoudjou when he first started KOing people.

Once Sokoudjou got KTFOed though, his career went to shit.
Oh that's totally what I meant btw, that his grappling is weaker than his striking, no question.

He gets very far simply on strength alone vs elite fighters and that's impressive on it's own. I also think he can definitely become a good champ but I'd like him to work on his striking. Needs to be more purposeful instead of those wild swings.

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it's definitely his physique, he never really had time to show what he's capable of and he's always been with his coach from france..and lets be honest the mma scene in france isn't exactly world class, AFAIK pro mma is banned there.

but if he joins a real training camp, sky is the limit, especially in the HW division where old men can still dominate.

even though he got totally exposed for his skills, he lasted 5 rounds with miocic who ko'd werdum,JDS,overeem etc. so that is definitely a positive.

Yeah and there's still the Overeem KO which was quite impressive. Stick him in AKA and see what happens. With a body like his, could he even get injured?


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Old 21-01-2018, 06:06   #3194
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"As Dana White was about to put the belt on Miocic, Miocic took it from him and gave it to his coach to put around his waist."


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Old 21-01-2018, 07:11   #3195
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Well that was fun


Last match was bit dull.but he had to do what he had to win
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Old 21-01-2018, 09:01   #3196
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I love cain but i dont think he can beay werdum tbh. Bad matchup. He definitely would annihilate ngannou and stipe too.
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Old 21-01-2018, 09:02   #3197
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Dc is a beast. Legend. Should retire or fight miocic imo. And maybe a rematch with gus?
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Old 21-01-2018, 11:45   #3198
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miocic is funny


btw, apparently rogan and cruz were getting pissed at each other during commentary? I missed it..what happened?
I dunno about pissed, but Dom was stinging him every round with a back handed insult

DC and Stipe where on another level then their opponents
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Old 21-01-2018, 14:15   #3199
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Oh that's totally what I meant btw, that his grappling is weaker than his striking, no question.

He gets very far simply on strength alone vs elite fighters and that's impressive on it's own. I also think he can definitely become a good champ but I'd like him to work on his striking. Needs to be more purposeful instead of those wild swings.

Yeah and there's still the Overeem KO which was quite impressive. Stick him in AKA and see what happens. With a body like his, could he even get injured?
It is really key how N'Gannou bounces back now. His poor game-planning + lack of fundamental skills on the fence / ground was on full-display yesterday. I suspect now more fighters will use this type of strategy around him.

He is 31, which I wouldn't consider a spring chicken given he's so behind in those aspects. He is an exciting fighter, but I really think he has too many holes in his game to be exploited to really be consistently fighting contenders to get back to this spot (if he continues his current camp). Let's hope he realizes this and changes camp soon.


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Old 21-01-2018, 14:28   #3200
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I'm not surprised motherfuckers, for me the only question was if Stipe was gonna get hit badly in the first 2-3 minutes or not. Saw a clip of pros picking the fight, and everyone went with Stipe, which tells you everything.

Cain vs Miocic is the real thing.

Regardid Ngannu, it's hard to tell if he actually is that bad on the ground, or if he just completely gassed out. Because when there's no fuel, your body won't do what you want it to do.


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