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Old 21-12-2017, 12:14   #381
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I don't recall milan ever being top 3 last season

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Old 21-12-2017, 12:23   #382
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Only sell those who want to leave.

Bonucci is our only world class proven winner, so I would hope not to sell him. Experience counts for so much in developing that winning mentality that the club has seemingly lost. And I mean winning experience being a crucial player for your team.

In the summer I wanted Biglia or Badelj here, and I can say I have learned a major lesson from Biglia's total failure so far and seeming mental weakness. That is, experience only means something if it is being a key player for a top team that has won.

Like Kalinic as well who has a lot of Serie A experience cracking under the pressure of playing for a big club.

Going forward I would like us to sign:

​1) World class players
2) Potential World class players
3) Ex world class veterans who can still contribute

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My definition: Top 10 in their position in the world, who have won league championships and ideally the Champions league (because this is the Milan DNA that we seem to be losing)

Potential World Class Players

​Younger players who have all the technical tools to be top players and have shown ability to play in top leagues

Ex World Class

Aging veterans who have won everything and don’t necessarily have the legs for a full season but can still contribute on the field and off the field

IMO we have 1 world class player in Bonucci and a few potential world class players in Romagnoli, RR, Kessie, Locatelli, Suso and maybe Conti.

Going forward I want us to sign the above 3 types of players only, and if we cannot get the world class players, focusing on the high potential youngsters and being patient with them is something I can get behind. Just no more mediocre players, or players who look like world beaters for small clubs but crack under the pressure of a big club.
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Old 21-12-2017, 12:25   #383
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Wouldn't mind selling Bonbon for 70+ and investing that money into other positions.


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Old 21-12-2017, 12:37   #384
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bonucci this week...


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Old 21-12-2017, 12:40   #385
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So what? You don't hang out with colleagues from former jobs?


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Old 21-12-2017, 12:49   #386
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Old 21-12-2017, 12:54   #387
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Old 21-12-2017, 13:03   #388
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so confused.
Lol.....i formatted it like shit

Summary: sign world class players. If they don’t want to sign, the go for the young high potential players or veterans who have won. Don’t sign mediocre players like Biglia or Kalinic due to their ‘experience’. Real experience is winning experience

Hope that clarifies
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Old 21-12-2017, 13:20   #389
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Lol.....i formatted it like shit

Summary: sign world class players. If they don’t want to sign, the go for the young high potential players or veterans who have won. Don’t sign mediocre players like Biglia or Kalinic due to their ‘experience’. Real experience is winning experience

Hope that clarifies
i didnt say it about your format
but about your perception of the whole think.i agree with your conclusion but the way you get there is a little confused.things you say dont stand together.


dont be quick to judge things etc
look at inter today and compare it with last year when they struggled for 8th place.they signed borja valero and vecino.they fall in the same category with badelj and biglia as far as i m concerned....
same think can happen to us next year if we have a lw like perisic and a cam like pastore in that same squad we have this year.

bvb and atletico managed 3 UCL finals in last 5 years without having any winning experience as you mean it...or all of you have forgotten how much experience the GOAT team had in 1988....and that coach named arrigo?

what matters is talent first of all and more importantly.if it is accompanied by experience then hell yes, but it is way too expensive and not affordable all the time.to make a team gel and work like a well-oiled machine you need many things.what we know for sure now is what we miss. and believe me if we buy top lw and cam, both biglia and kalinic would look far far better than they do now.as the rest of the team.

and yes f+m didnt manage to land a lw or a proper cam(they wanted to do a trick with hakan who plays both position , but he failed them af, as many of us here expected).but they manage to raise the level of this team in almost every position.does this make a better team? no cause team is about chemistry and gel together. but it sets a basis to work on the future.

#1 player to sell is hakan.thats for sure.


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Old 21-12-2017, 13:27   #390
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Sell for 60mil
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Old 21-12-2017, 14:09   #391
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i didnt say it about your format
but about your perception of the whole think.i agree with your conclusion but the way you get there is a little confused.things you say dont stand together.


dont be quick to judge things etc
look at inter today and compare it with last year when they struggled for 8th place.they signed borja valero and vecino.they fall in the same category with badelj and biglia as far as i m concerned....
same think can happen to us next year if we have a lw like perisic and a cam like pastore in that same squad we have this year.

bvb and atletico managed 3 UCL finals in last 5 years without having any winning experience as you mean it...or all of you have forgotten how much experience the GOAT team had in 1988....and that coach named arrigo?

what matters is talent first of all and more importantly.if it is accompanied by experience then hell yes, but it is way too expensive and not affordable all the time.to make a team gel and work like a well-oiled machine you need many things.what we know for sure now is what we miss. and believe me if we buy top lw and cam, both biglia and kalinic would look far far better than they do now.as the rest of the team.

and yes f+m didnt manage to land a lw or a proper cam(they wanted to do a trick with hakan who plays both position , but he failed them af, as many of us here expected).but they manage to raise the level of this team in almost every position.does this make a better team? no cause team is about chemistry and gel together. but it sets a basis to work on the future.

#1 player to sell is hakan.thats for sure.
As i said it doesn't matter who we will buy or sell. A proper coach is all we need. A guy who can define who we are, which formation we will use, what playstyle we will play and stick with it. Who can give milan the consistency. Not some formation chairs 4-3-3 and 3-5-2 without a clearly playstyle.
Who can yell our players to work harder but has actually ability not just some grintashit like gattuso
So F&M need to do only one thing. Next year number 1 target is a WC coach. Give him the authority, buy players he wants and sell those he doesn't. Do not care about those players commode like or not. It's about time we need a guy who actually knows what football is.
We actually repeat same shit like merda last season.
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Old 21-12-2017, 14:50   #395
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I think we should bring back Balotelli

it’s been long enough now
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Old 21-12-2017, 14:52   #396
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I think we should bring back Balotelli

it’s been long enough now
Yes plz! He is thrice the player Kalinic is.


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Old 21-12-2017, 14:57   #397
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Rating Allegri as best coach in Serie A Well that finishes our discussion, I've heard enough.
Just curious, who do you then think is the best coach in Serie A?
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Old 21-12-2017, 15:21   #398
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Just curious, who do you then think is the best coach in Serie A?
Hard to pick the absolute best but I rate Sarri and Di Francesco easily higher than Allegri. Also Spalletti unfortunately is doing a really good job with an Inter team that was worse than us last season, which again puts him above Allegri. I think it's also fair to say that Simone Inzaghi is a better coach.

Sarri and Inzaghi are the type of coaches that get their players to perform above expectations.

If I had to settle on one of those, I'd pick Inzaghi slightly over Sarri and Di Francesco.


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Just curious, who do you then think is the best coach in Serie A?
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how many games in san siro have b+g attended since they sold?
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