The Rumour Commode XXII: Broke Li: Enter the Someone (Pls)

Alec · May 2, 2018

OVUNQUE CON TE said:
Bona out for 25M Torreira in for the same?

A bit different style of player iirc but certainly an upgrade in quality, especially down the line. Hard to say really - we could definitely use a guy to build up as Biglia replacement but on the other hand we really need to use the money to upgrade our dreadful offense.

IL Diavolo 3 · May 2, 2018

Qaas said:
Yes... you want my number?

Nah I wouldn’t do it even if it was Massaro’s dick and A.Z. is pushing. You like old man style over grinta.

IL Diavolo 3 · May 2, 2018

Don_Jacare said:
Yes. Her name is quassi adresanya.

IL Diavolo 3 · May 2, 2018

Allegri wants bonaventura at all costs, Milan has set 25m price tag on bonaventura.

I’m even willing to do a bonaventura - rugani swap.

ibelongtomilan · May 2, 2018

Neo'82 said:
Allegri asks for Bonaventura

https://www.football-italia.net/120768/allegri-asks-bonaventura

finally he came for his lost child :proud:

leaf · May 2, 2018

As much as it's tempting to send Bona to Shitelegri, you KNOW he's going to play in beast mode when he gets there :rolleyes:

See P!rl0

Alec · May 2, 2018

leaf said:
As much as it's tempting to send Bona to Shitelegri, you KNOW he's going to play in beast mode when he gets there

See P!rl0

DeS is still complete shit. Bona isn't an upgrade over any of their starters.

Sage · May 2, 2018

Kojak said:
And who exactly do you suggest we replace Antonelli with? We can't afford the likes of Asamoah and he wouldn't come here anyway. We're broke and have a million other holes to fix.

Strinic is an upgrade on Antonelli and costs only 0.5m per year more.

his wages are 2 million, that's about 1.75 milion above his ability :fp:

ffs asamoah at juve gets less than 2 million, how are you going to pay a backup who's awful 2 million euros?

they could have just signed criscito for free on similar wages if not less, hes way better than strinic.

Milanista92 said:
3 man rotation

why on earth would you rotate cbs? + milan already have zapata and mustang as subs.

if they want bonaventura they can have him for a swap with cuadrado

joyrider · May 2, 2018

Sell jack for 45mil or more.

helloAgain · May 2, 2018

Alec said:
Yeah we don't need Rugani. If we get money and a player for Bonaventura, better make it one in a position where we actually have demand. If somehow Bonaventura was to be sold for money+Mandzukic, I'd be pretty happy.

vidarth · May 2, 2018

joyrider said:
Sell jack for 45mil or more.

exactly.... 35-45 million is a good amount for bonaventura.

anything below that and you can be sure that his replacement will be a bertolacci level player.

Boban1982 · May 2, 2018

Please let the Bona to Juve rumour be true! 25 million and they have lost the plot if that goes through.

nvdmrd · May 2, 2018

The Rumour Commode XXII: Broke Li, Hidden Galliani

Cutrone—Simeone partnership

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Thenebra · May 2, 2018

Watch: Gabriel Paletta’s shocking penalty in China

http://sempremilan.com/watch-gabriel-palettas-shocking-penalty-china

Just wide lol

VooDooDoll · May 2, 2018

selling bona for 25m, hmm.
if we look on our options in attack we have hakan, suso, bona and cutrone/silva/kaligod for 4 positions - we should get at least 3 players (1 proper cf) without selling hakan, suso, bona to have quality and some deep.

25m looks good for average player, he may score goals for juve as bench option but in longer term he will be flop there since he is just limited player; after getting bernardeshi for 40m(?) juve wants again waste money :lol:

.A.K. · May 2, 2018

vidarth said:
exactly.... 35-45 million is a good amount for bonaventura.

anything below that and you can be sure that his replacement will be a bertolacci level player.

Loooooooooool are you kidding me?

25 million for this piece of garbage. I will carry him to Juventus myself!!!

Sell him for 5 million and still a steal

Qaas · May 2, 2018

nvdmrd said:
cutrone—simeone partnership

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milanator · May 2, 2018

VooDooDoll said:
selling bona for 25m, hmm.
if we look on our options in attack we have hakan, suso, bona and cutrone/silva/kaligod for 4 positions - we should get at least 3 players (1 proper cf) without selling hakan, suso, bona to have quality and some deep.

25m looks good for average player, he may score goals for juve as bench option but in longer term he will be flop there since he is just limited player; after getting bernardeshi for 40m(?) juve wants again waste money

The thing is we don´t really have a reason to sell Bonaventura, Suso is out of our hands if someone wants to spend 40m and if a good offer for one or both of Kalinic and Silva arrives you have to consider it (although one might keep Silva for his potential).

If one or two of the Cfs + Suso and Bona leave we would not only need more players, it would completely reset our attack (leaving us with 1,5 starters of 4 attacking positions )and next season would be another season of transition with little chance of reaching a CL spot.

We have to strengten the CF area and add a fast winger which will cause some loss of chemistry but thats necessary, losing Bona is not.

Also in terms of output Bona is very stable even if he has weak games but overall he scores a decent amount every season. Having such guarantees in the club is very important and allows to take risks with other/new players because you know what you can count on in the worst case,

Az. · May 2, 2018

Jack will go for 15 millions tops, spread over 5 years + a Juve reject that will cost us some 3 mil/season.

Alec · May 2, 2018

Thenebra said:
Watch: Gabriel Paletta’s shocking penalty in China

http://sempremilan.com/watch-gabriel-palettas-shocking-penalty-china

Just wide lol

Is it weird that I didn't expect him to take a penalty but rather cause one with a stupid foul? :lol:

mrki · May 2, 2018

Mandzukic wants to play regulary and not lw anymore. Bona for Mandzo+$ is ok but not if Mandzo will be our pnly cf bought.

Mario and Cutrone are similar, also Belotti.

Keep Bonavenzura, we need wide squad. And geniuses here want 12 man squad again.

I hope we try for Keita again, with Mendes help. Also Bernard. THEN you can sell Bona.

Average-bigloa, kessie, vidal, hakan, free badelj for mid.
Keita, bernard, suso wingers, also hakan can help.
Cutrp, some cf, keita cf.

Good mix. Better team then this.

They say 2-3 players but its not enough

Neo'82 · May 2, 2018

Lets be honest. More chance of average Jack being extended than sold. It's no coincidence that we've finished between 6th and 10th since he arrived.

Alec · May 2, 2018

Neo'82 said:
Lets be honest. More chance of average Jack being extended than sold. It's no coincidence that we've finished between 6th and 10th since he arrived.

Yep, when a rotational player ends up in a role as a protagonist you cannot expect excellence.

Alo88 · May 2, 2018

Alec said:
DeS is still complete shit. Bona isn't an upgrade over any of their starters.

But he'd still be a very versatile and solid option from the bench. And that would piss me off tbh.

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Guys, swaping good players for other good or maybe slightly better players won't solve one of our biggest issues which is the lack of depth. Every team in Serie A would kill to have players like Jack as depth-option. We shouldn't help Juve to get there but rather keep him as our own depth-option.

And those who think selling Bonucci and replacing him with Rugani: You think the explosion of Roma right now is just a case? Bonucci is the perfect leader and teacher to lesrn from. Roma won't learn shit from Zapata. And we need Leo to lure Vidal in our direction

milanator · May 2, 2018

Neo'82 said:
Lets be honest. More chance of average Jack being extended than sold. It's no coincidence that we've finished between 6th and 10th since he arrived.

Yeah he is one of the reasons we did not finish 10-15th. I have seen the bad seasons and he was always one of the few players giving some hope and now he, one of the saviors of the last bit of respect for this club, is the reason we are bad - yeah sure :fp:

Seriously some fans would pick apart the historic mid of Gattuso-Pirlo-Ambro and label them mid table players. :lol:

Alo88 said:
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Guys, swaping good players for other good or maybe slightly better players won't solve one of our biggest issues which is the lack of depth.
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Such deals actually make us worse. I mean it just happened last summer and people are underestimating the importance of chemistry again.

Colossus · May 2, 2018

milanator said:
Yeah he is one of the reasons we did not finish 10-15th. I have seen the bad seasons and he was always one of the few players giving some hope and now he, one of the saviors of the last bit of respect for this club, is the reason we are bad - yeah sure

Seriously some fans would pick apart the historic mid of Gattuso-Pirlo-Ambro and label them mid table players.

Such deals actually make us worse. I mean it just happened last summer and people are underestimating the importance of chemistry again.

Jackass is nowhere near Gattuso Ambro and Pirlo.....the point is with him as one of the better players in the side, we have been mid table at best....because that is peak Bona abilities

Curupira · May 2, 2018

Wanting 45m for Bonaventura :lol:

Bertolacci level replacement :lol:

Bonaventura IS Bertolacci level

Neo'82 · May 2, 2018

milanator said:
Yeah he is one of the reasons we did not finish 10-15th. I have seen the bad seasons and he was always one of the few players giving some hope and now he, one of the saviors of the last bit of respect for this club, is the reason we are bad - yeah sure

Seriously some fans would pick apart the historic mid of Gattuso-Pirlo-Ambro and label them mid table players.

Look beyond his goals. He is anonymous in our midfield all too often. Link up play is average, lacks ideas/vision on the final pass, never looks comfortable in possession. Mentally weak player. The guy can't even get a game for the current Gli Azzurri.

What hope has he provided? we currently sit 7th in the league and that could become 10th if we fail to win our last 3 games.

milanator · May 2, 2018

Colossus said:
Jackass is nowhere near Gattuso Ambro and Pirlo.....the point is with him as one of the better players in the side, we have been mid table at best....because that is peak Bona abilities

The point is even these greats had their significant weaknesses and where combined in a way that made them function well.
Nowadays people want players who are able to do everything and shit on everyone sooner or later who -surprisingly- does not meet such unrealistic expectations.
It would make much more sense to look at what players can do instead at what they can´t.

We are stuck at mid table because the squads have been poorly composed (by Galliani and Mirabelli) and we regularly struggle with depth and a low average quality among the squads.
To fault better players like Bona for that is just lazy and unlogic.

Curupira · May 2, 2018

milanator said:
The point is even these greats had their significant weaknesses and where combined in a way that made them function well.
Nowadays people want players who are able to do everything and shit on everyone sooner or later who -surprisingly- does not met this unrealistic expectations.
It would make much more sense to look at what players can do instead at what they can´t.

We are stuck at mid table because the squads have been poorly composed (by Galliani and Mirabelli) and we regularly struggle with depth and a low average quality among the squads.
To fault better players like Bona for that is just lazy and unlogic.

To continue to refer to him as a “better player” for what he did in previous season is just lazy and unlogic.

We know what Jack can do, and we know how many tries it takes for him to finally get one right and it’s been that way since he was a “better” player.

Your attempt at saying everyone has flaws and then comparing Bona to our legends is laughable.

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