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Old 13-06-2011, 19:29   #41
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Astori Astori dude is a mediocre fodder Cb, zapata please if he can play as fullback then sign him now.

With zapata we secure a solid Defense iin future we can buy ramos and we will have a non italian defense which can win the league with very ease

Zapata please
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Old 13-06-2011, 19:30   #42
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Zapata is surely a better gamble as compared to astori, one can see that it won't take long for him to reach the top, whereas with astori, he's still very prone to silly mistakes.
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Old 13-06-2011, 19:31   #43
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Zapata. Easily brings more to the table. Apart from being a solid defender he is good at set pieces. Pretty effective in the air. But Astori is already well versed in the happenings of Milan since he is our youth product. I am sure he will bring his game up a few notches if he played for milan first team. I am impressed with what Astori has accomplished playing for a defense like Cagliari. Tough choice either way.

Personally tilting towards Zapata. In simple words he just looks better at everything.
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Old 13-06-2011, 19:39   #44
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Well, I assume that everytime Silva or Nesta got injured or suspended, Mexés will play (given his wages and quality). Zapata or Astori would have to fight with Yepes to be fourth choice and I'm not even counting Bonera. That takes two or three absences for them to find playing time.

I'm ok with both, but I think it's excessive to have this season those players as fourth or fifth choice, specially cause Yepes can do this job.

And from their point of view, it's too little playing time. They should be looking to be starters and get maximum playing time at this point of career.
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Old 13-06-2011, 19:43   #45
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I agree with Sven, but thinking ahead for the future both could be good. Astori's deal could be renewed where as Zapata in entering his last year of contract and could be available at a knockdown fee.

Zapata seems physically the better of the two but i think mentally it might be Astori, i wonder which one is actually better at reading the game. I havent seen 10+ matches of either this season so i cant and wont comment on this but i'd appreciate if someone can answer that question for me.
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Old 13-06-2011, 19:46   #46
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So which of Silva and Zapata would learn to be a man-marker?
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Old 13-06-2011, 19:49   #47
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So which of Silva and Zapata would learn to be a man-marker?
they'll improvise on the moment
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Old 13-06-2011, 19:49   #48
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Well, I assume that everytime Silva or Nesta got injured or suspended, Mexés will play (given his wages and quality). Zapata or Astori would have to fight with Yepes to be fourth choice and I'm not even counting Bonera. That takes two or three absences for them to find playing time.

I'm ok with both, but I think it's excessive to have this season those players as fourth or fifth choice, specially cause Yepes can do this job.

And from their point of view, it's too little playing time. They should be looking to be starters and get maximum playing time at this point of career.
That is the dilemma, aint it?

But you also gotta consider that Zapata is in the final year of his contract and now is the perfect time to sign him if we dont wanna face much competition...

Maybe have a deal in place that has Zapata remain in Udinese this season and come to us on free next season?

But I'm pretty sure that would fall under 'tapping up' the player...
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Old 13-06-2011, 19:50   #49
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So which of Silva and Zapata would learn to be a man-marker?
I think you under estimate silva's abilities to be a man marker, I know Nesta is the man marker at Milan, but Im sure Silva is qualified to do a great job.


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Old 13-06-2011, 19:51   #50
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So which of Silva and Zapata would learn to be a man-marker?
Silva, simply because he is a fuckin' Maestro when it comes to defending. Zapata seems more of the impulsive type so it would be a bit more tricky for him...
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Old 13-06-2011, 20:01   #51
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I think you under estimate silva's abilities to be a man marker, I know Nesta is the man marker at Milan, but Im sure Silva is qualified to do a great job.

You're convinced that Silva was the best defender in the world this season. If you've got the best in the world, do you really want to move him to a completely different role in order to accommodate a new guy? Seems like an unnecessary gamble to me.
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Old 13-06-2011, 20:08   #52
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That is the dilemma, aint it?

But you also gotta consider that Zapata is in the final year of his contract and now is the perfect time to sign him if we dont wanna face much competition...

Maybe have a deal in place that has Zapata remain in Udinese this season and come to us on free next season?

But I'm pretty sure that would fall under 'tapping up' the player...
That was my guess, let Zapata in Udinese one more year. Not sure if all the other clubs in the World will agree not to touch him though.

It also seems that Milan will have to buy the full of Astori now. If he is the choice, let's hope he is ok with one more loan or co-own. But the guy is 24 already, he can't wait all his life for Milan, specially when he has to hold his place in Azzura.
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Old 13-06-2011, 20:17   #53
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That was my guess, let Zapata in Udinese one more year. Not sure if all the other clubs in the World will agree not to touch him though.

It also seems that Milan will have to buy the full of Astori now. If he is the choice, let's hope he is ok with one more loan or co-own. But the guy is 24 already, he can't wait all his life for Milan, specially when he has to hold his place in Azzura.
Or give Astori to Udinese to sweeten the deal for Zapata
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Old 13-06-2011, 20:17   #54
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Maybe we can get a discount on Zapata if we give him to Udinise on loan for 1 season?

Though if he covers full-back well, rather him right now, and Antonini, Oddo and Bonera out... (and Onweyu out too of course)
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Old 13-06-2011, 20:34   #55
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You're convinced that Silva was the best defender in the world this season. If you've got the best in the world, do you really want to move him to a completely different role in order to accommodate a new guy? Seems like an unnecessary gamble to me.
so who would be the ideal player to partner Silva after nesta is gone?
Mexes? skirtel? chellini just asking
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Old 13-06-2011, 21:12   #56
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so who would be the ideal player to partner Silva after nesta is gone?
Mexes? skirtel? chellini just asking

I would take Chiellini but it is queite impossible, so the best options would be Sakho or Zapata.
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Old 13-06-2011, 22:53   #57
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That was my guess, let Zapata in Udinese one more year.
Agree. And bring him next year to have one season to learn from Sandro and then take over.

To be honest, I would have preferred Zapata over Mexes any day, but Mexes for free was a deal just too good to pass.


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Old 13-06-2011, 23:10   #58
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Old 13-06-2011, 23:55   #59
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so who would be the ideal player to partner Silva after nesta is gone?
Mexes? skirtel? chellini just asking

I think someone more aggressive and dominant would bring out the best in Silva and give Milan's backline the best balance. Ideally, that player would also be a leader/organiser.

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Old 14-06-2011, 00:04   #60
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I think someone more aggressive and dominant would bring out the best in Silva and give Milan's backline the best balance. Ideally, that player would also be a leader/organiser.

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