The Rumour Commode XXIV: The Reality Era Continues

R.Akbar · Sep 2, 2018

Neruda said:
Cutrone and Calabria with the U21 ... geez i forget theyre that young

Olympics in 2 years.
Italy U-23 & France U-23 will be interesting to watch.

Massaro94 · Sep 2, 2018

MarioReality said:
anyone who argues that conte was not one of the best players to ever grace the pitch, is in a level of denial that cannot be remedied by traditional medicine.

conte maybe a top 3 player ever?

MarioReality · Sep 2, 2018

Conte was a better mid than maldini a defender.

Discuss

General · Sep 2, 2018

MR bet that Milan would beat Roma and wagered a 5 month internet ban thingy.

He won

Discuss

Khurrisu · Sep 2, 2018

Neo'82 said:
The 11 Milan players that will be on national duty:

Donnarumma -
Caldara -
Romagnoli -
Bonaventura
Cutrone - [U21]
Calabria - [U21]
Calhanoglu -
Rodriguez -
Kessie -
Suso -
Laxalt -

Ugh. Too many starters.

joyrider · Sep 2, 2018

Roma have had their worst start to a Serie A season since Zdenek Zeman’s campaign in 2012-13.

The Giallorossi go into the break for international duty with a last-gasp 1-0 win away to Torino, fightback to draw 3-3 at home with Atalanta and 2-1 defeat to Milan.

Grazie Grintusso

Congo Powers · Sep 2, 2018

MarioReality said:
anyone who argues that conte was not one of the best players to ever grace the pitch, is in a level of denial that cannot be remedied by traditional medicine.

conte maybe a top 3 player ever?

just because you're a good former player...doesn't mean you're going to be a good manager. (but conte was a better player than gattuso)

nvdmrd · Sep 2, 2018

MarioReality said:
Conte was a better mid than maldini a defender.

Discuss

but can you let me know your words abou Gigio Donnaruma right now?

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vB9 · Sep 2, 2018

Massaro94 · Sep 2, 2018

General said:
MR bet that Milan would beat Roma and wagered a 5 month internet ban thingy.

He won

Discuss

Phantomx · Sep 2, 2018

joyrider said:
Roma have had their worst start to a Serie A season since Zdenek Zeman’s campaign in 2012-13.

The Giallorossi go into the break for international duty with a last-gasp 1-0 win away to Torino, fightback to draw 3-3 at home with Atalanta and 2-1 defeat to Milan.

Grazie Grintusso

Gattuso 2-0 EDF :star:

papaberlu · Sep 2, 2018

What a goal from Benassi

Some gems in this Fiorentina side

LocalHero80 · Sep 2, 2018

EDF is a whiny bitch, cant stand him.

So... after Kessie, Hakan Bonucci (that led to Caldara and Higuana) have become important transfers, if Biglia, Musacchio, Reina and Conti prove to be key players, will we agree that maybe Mirabelli wasn't such a noob after all and did decent job with building the squad from scratch. Except for that attack of course, even tho there's no last word on Silva yet

vB9 · Sep 2, 2018

LocalHero80 said:
Except for that attack of course, even tho there's no last word on Silva yet

This "option" thing, does this work both ways? Can we refuse sale? If so, swap plus dough for Ruben

LocalHero80 · Sep 2, 2018

van Basten said:
This "option" thing, does this work both ways? Can we refuse sale? If so, swap plus dough for Ruben

I dont think it does, if it did the whole option thing would mean nothing, unless its just an option of being "the first in line".

KujaIX · Sep 2, 2018

It's an option in that they can bid that figure and it has to be accepted.

The player can say no, though, unlike an obligation where it's effectively just a transfer delayed for a year, and so the player has already said yes.

LocalHero80 · Sep 2, 2018

KujaIX said:
It's an option in that they can bid that figure and it has to be accepted.

The player can say no, though, unlike an obligation where it's effectively just a transfer delayed for a year, and so the player has already said yes.

does it work like that? I thought it was only about the buyer having a choice oR being forced to buy.

Massaro94 · Sep 2, 2018

LocalHero80 said:
EDF is a whiny bitch, cant stand him.

So... after Kessie, Hakan Bonucci (that led to Caldara and Higuana) have become important transfers, if Biglia, Musacchio, Reina and Conti prove to be key players, will we agree that maybe Mirabelli wasn't such a noob after all and did decent job with building the squad from scratch. Except for that attack of course, even tho there's no last word on Silva yet

LocalHero80 · Sep 2, 2018

Massaro94 said:

so no lol would you hate him if he messed up like 2-3 of 11 purchases? I wonder who'd have better hit and miss ratio in his place.

KujaIX · Sep 2, 2018

LocalHero80 said:
does it work like that? I thought it was only about the buyer having a choice oR being forced to buy.

With an option, the price is agreed and the selling club have to accept if a bid matching that value is submitted.

Otherwise, what would make it any different to a regular loan?

With an obligation, the player has to move, and so effectively is an agreed transfer with a loan coming first.

Loan - a transfer bid doesn't have to be made/doesn't have to be accepted; Loan with Option - a transfer bid at the agreed price has to be accepted, but the player doesn't have to agree (although you'd imagine they would have discussed it prior); Loan with Obligation - As the loan ends, the player has to move permanently.

LocalHero80 · Sep 2, 2018

KujaIX said:
With an option, the price is agreed and the selling club have to accept if a bid matching that value is submitted.

Otherwise, what would make it any different to a regular loan?

With an obligation, the player has to move, and so effectively is an agreed transfer with a loan coming first.

Loan - a transfer bid doesn't have to be made/doesn't have to be accepted; Loan with Option - a transfer bid at the agreed price has to be accepted, but the player doesn't have to agree (although you'd imagine they would have discussed it prior); Loan with Obligation - As the loan ends, the player has to move permanently.

in terms of two clubs everything is clear. I just didnt know that the player could refuse if its an option and not if its an obligation. I dont think its fair. If theres an option it means the club has guarantees that if they want him he comes, if its obligation then its just 100% decided. I dont think the player has to have a say on option but not on obligation since the transfer is between the clubs. He either should be able to refuse both or accept both.

Alec · Sep 2, 2018

Can we stop talking about Mirabelli? Regardless where his deals end up putting him exactly, he doesn't come close to matching Leonardo who is much more ambitious and therefore better suited to our club and future goals.

LocalHero80 · Sep 2, 2018

Alec said:
Can we stop talking about Mirabelli? Regardless where his deals end up putting him exactly, he doesn't come close to matching Leonardo who is much more ambitious and therefore better suited to our club and future goals.

simply being "more ambitious" means nothing. Pippo is also ambitious when it comes to coaching career. Doesn't make him any better. We'll see where Leo brings us, but I think if this lineup succeeds, those who shit on Mirabelli will have to show some respect.

Alec · Sep 2, 2018

LocalHero80 said:
simply being "more ambitious" means nothing. Pippo is also ambitious when it comes to coaching career. Doesn't make him any better. We'll see where Leo brings us, but I think if this lineup succeeds, those who shit on Mirabelli will have to show some respect.

More ambitious does mean something. Leonardo being more ambitious means that he will not go for a Borini type transfer or other mediocre players.

I don't hate Mirabelli, I was very happy about the past summer mercato but there are certain limits to his ability and Leonardo simply fits better.

He brought us some good players, he wasted 63 mil on two dud strikers which fucked us over big time. We've seen Mirabelli's squad on the pitch - it had it's highs and considerable lows. This isn't Mirabelli's squad anymore since there are key elements added to it that completely change the entire dynamic of the team.

Therefore I propose to forget about Mirabelli and focus on the now.

LocalHero80 · Sep 2, 2018

Alec said:
More ambitious does mean something. Leonardo being more ambitious means that he will not go for a Borini type transfer or other mediocre players.

I don't hate Mirabelli, I was very happy about the past summer mercato but there are certain limits to his ability and Leonardo simply fits better.

He brought us some good players, he wasted 63 mil on two dud strikers which fucked us over big time. We've seen Mirabelli's squad on the pitch - it had it's highs and considerable lows. This isn't Mirabelli's squad anymore since there are key elements added to it that completely change the entire dynamic of the team.

Therefore I propose to forget about Mirabelli and focus on the now.

Focusing on the now is the ultimate way of life, noone doubts that :lol:

I just read enough shit about Mirabelli during this summer, and now those posters are praising the players that he bought, hypocrisy. Also Leos campaign would've been pretty bleak if we didnt have Bonucci for that fancy deal.

Alec · Sep 2, 2018

Well Mirabelli's campaign would've been pretty bleak if he didn't have 200 mil to spend so let's not get into the whole what ifs. Leo would've had an easier campaign if previous management and ownership didn't get the club into the whole FFP mess.

Let's judge what people did with what they were given and limit it to reality.

As for people being inconsistent on rnb forums - it's rnb forums afterall bro :lol:

LocalHero80 · Sep 2, 2018

Alec said:
Well Mirabelli's campaign would've been pretty bleak if he didn't have 200 mil to spend so let's not get into the whole what ifs. Leo would've had an easier campaign if previous management and ownership didn't get the club into the whole FFP mess.

Let's judge what people did with what they were given and limit it to reality.

As for people being inconsistent on rnb forums - it's rnb forums afterall bro

Oh ownership is a completely different story. Clueless incompetent idiots.

Neruda · Sep 2, 2018

Didnt anyone give Alec the memo about only real men allowed in the commode ? :lol:

Alec · Sep 2, 2018

Neruda said:
Didnt anyone give Alec the memo about only real men allowed in the commode ?

Bro, we went through this last time we counted chest hairs. I had 2 more, therefore I'm more of a real man :mad:

yungfreddy · Sep 2, 2018

Alec said:
Bro, we went through this last time we counted chest hairs. I had 2 more, therefore I'm more of a real man

what u guys using? the Manalyzer 3000?..the new model has very accurate testoron level measurement

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