Manuel Locatelli Thread

necromancer · Aug 11, 2018

How is the Cristante deal a 'mistake'? :lol:

Sage · Aug 11, 2018

Jammin said:
He is free to fuck right off to a career of mid table Serie A mediocrity if he wants, instead of fighting for a spot.

Just another entitled little shit.

winning · Aug 11, 2018

necromancer said:
I have no clue what you all see in Locatelli besides the fact that he’s Italian, young and scored the one incredible goal.

He has been the definition of mediocre last season and doesn’t look ready to contribute for a team aiming to reach CL places.

It’s a no brainer to sell him since he can’t help us this year and he needs playing time.

Word, most people that follow this game have no clue!

If one add up our serie a games last years with Loca starting/not starting, stats say we get 70% more points when he is starting. Most people dont understand how to rate a dms performance, it to complex to a simple mind...

Either is Gattusso to stupid or does he have a personal issue with Loca

SpartanMilan · Aug 11, 2018

necromancer said:
How is the Cristante deal a 'mistake'?

We gave up on him at 19, now 4 years later and he was sold for 30 million to a team that is better than us and is an Italian international.

In a year we finished 10th, and were playing Michael Essien's corpse and Sulley Muntari, we sold Cristante, when he should have been getting serious minutes. (We also sold Simone Verdi that year, who is also an Italian international and who Napoli bought for 25 million)

As the club as struggled these past few years, there have been more and more players we gave up on becoming quality players, it speaks to poor management and an extreme lack of patience that did not match what the resources of the club were.

And now we are in a spot where we're looking to add a midfielder and a winger, and we could have had two Italian internationals that the 2nd and 3rd best team in the league just shelled out a combined 55 million for, but instead we're crossing our fingers and hoping for the best.

AndreiX · Aug 11, 2018

SpartanMilan said:
We gave up on him

nope

necromancer · Aug 11, 2018

SpartanMilan said:
We gave up on him at 19, now 4 years later and he was sold for 30 million to a team that is better than us and is an Italian international.

In a year we finished 10th, and were playing Michael Essien's corpse and Sulley Muntari, we sold Cristante, when he should have been getting serious minutes. (We also sold Simone Verdi that year, who is also an Italian international and who Napoli bought for 25 million)

As the club as struggled these past few years, there have been more and more players we gave up on becoming quality players, it speaks to poor management and an extreme lack of patience that did not match what the resources of the club were.

And now we are in a spot where we're looking to add a midfielder and a winger, and we could have had two Italian internationals that the 2nd and 3rd best team in the league just shelled out a combined 55 million for, but instead we're crossing our fingers and hoping for the best.

Italian international is hardly a badge of honour with the current azzurri squad, first of all.

Second, we didn’t give up on Cristante. He wanted to leave in search for a starting spot. The transfer fee funded Bonaventuras move to Milan. Cristante was not at all ready to start for Milan then, and Bona has been one of our best signings in the last 5 yrs.

Young players need to be good enough to start in their early 20s, otherwise it doesn’t make sense for big clubs to hold on to them. It doesn’t make sense for them either. They need to start somewhere so that they can improve. Like Cristante has now done.

Clubs looking to win can’t afford to have youngsters learning the ropes slowing them down. If that means potentially spending a larger amount in getting them back many years later, that’s fine. Football transfers aren’t neat, mathematical systems like FM makes it out to be.

kevin_dk · Aug 11, 2018

Jammin said:
He is free to fuck right off to a career of mid table Serie A mediocrity if he wants, instead of fighting for a spot.

Just another entitled little shit.

Spot on.

Anybody can get the fuck out and become a legend anywhere else. Coach, player, medical staff, janitor so on and so forth.

This piece of garbage is the next Montolivo.

GET THE FUCK OUT LOCATELLI.

And fuck Montella too whose jaw dropped for your fluke goal versus Juve.

Fucking garbage.

yagami7gnr · Aug 11, 2018

I gotta say some Milan fans are just too hopeless.

"He gotta fight for his spot" or "He is a snake" or "Anyways, he is a loser"

But talking about Bakayoko: "We are talking a world class player here" or "I love Bakky" or "He did not fit the PL but he is perfect for serie A"

:fp:

So a physical/brainless player that cannot fit in a physical/brainless league, it is going to be the bomb in a Heavy tactical/smart league. If we get him on loan truthfully I do not expect anything but Kondogbia1.1 As always I do not mind to be proven wrong if it is in Milan's best interest.

The only reason why Biglia deserves to start is because we want to be nice to Higuaín otherwise there is ZERO reasons besides his senior status that Biglia is way better than Locatelli but in all fairness Locatelli needs to read the game much better but it is not his fault that people try to make him a regista when he does not fit the bill. It is just too similar to Cristante who had a good spell but we preferred Essien/Muntari even though they were playing like shit. IMO, Locatelli needs to play. He needs the minutes. The only thing we know from reports is that Gattuso has a HARD ON for Bertolacci. Why? I do not know. Do I hold any grudge against Manuel? NO. If he leaves if wish him the best but not against Milan. Just my 2 cents.

Congo Powers · Aug 11, 2018

yagami7gnr said:
The only reason why Biglia deserves to start is because we want to be nice to Higuaín otherwise there is ZERO reasons besides his senior status that Biglia is way better than Locatelli but in all fairness Locatelli needs to read the game much better but it is not his fault that people try to make him a regista when he does not fit the bill.

winning · Aug 11, 2018

kevin_dk said:
Spot on.

Anybody can get the fuck out and become a legend anywhere else. Coach, player, medical staff, janitor so on and so forth.

This piece of garbage is the next Montolivo.

GET THE FUCK OUT LOCATELLI.

And fuck Montella too whose jaw dropped for your fluke goal versus Juve.

Fucking garbage.

Milan has a lot of fans so Its only logical that we have scum like u among us..

melanman · Aug 12, 2018

Colossus said:
His lack of athleticism is indeed worrying, especially his lack of balance and ability to receive the ball and turn. I think long term he will become a good player, but he needs a lot of playing time to see how high his ceiling is.

Was Attackingcm at youth level Milan|Montolivo era style has given negative habits. In his debut games more vertical passing then adopted the negative\passing when he became more established in the first team.

I think we should have a buy back clause.

Tantalis · Aug 12, 2018

melanman said:
Was Attackingcm at youth level Milan|Montolivo era style has given negative habits. In his debut games more vertical passing then adopted the negative\passing when he became more established in the first team.

I think we should have a buy back clause.

i remember him talking about looking up to pirlo but now he learns from montolivo. says it all really.

jawz10 · Aug 12, 2018

necromancer said:
Italian international is hardly a badge of honour with the current azzurri squad, first of all.

Such a fallacy. Is Bonaventura an Italian international? Is Borini? So Cristante and Verdi would have been a better investment considering we were finishing in 10th-6th place all these years? Exactly. And before anyone says "we are Milan, we don't wait for talent", well apparently we're only Milan when we have money. Smart patient investment in youth is how you dig yourself out of a hole, something our mgmt and fans like yourself weren't willing to do out of arrogance.

Second, we didn’t give up on Cristante. He wanted to leave in search for a starting spot. The transfer fee funded Bonaventuras move to Milan. Cristante was not at all ready to start for Milan then, and Bona has been one of our best signings in the last 5 yrs.

That making space for Bonaventura, a player we all want gone, is your best argument... you lack vision. Its OK, so did Galliani. You have the foresight of a geriatric man. Congrats!

Young players need to be good enough to start in their early 20s, otherwise it doesn’t make sense for big clubs to hold on to them. It doesn’t make sense for them either. They need to start somewhere so that they can improve. Like Cristante has now done.

Lol, the fallacy here is defining ourselves as a Big Club. A bit of humility is in order. Big clubs have big money and win big trophies. If neither of those parameters are being met, then its best to stop holding yourself in such high regard.

He wasn't in his early 20's lol, nor was Cristante, nor Darmian. They were all about 18-19. We made average players the pillars of the club and wouldn't give time to our most talented youngsters who in the end proved our management wrong by ending up on BETTER teams than Milan.

Clubs looking to win can’t afford to have youngsters learning the ropes slowing them down. If that means potentially spending a larger amount in getting them back many years later, that’s fine. Football transfers aren’t neat, mathematical systems like FM makes it out to be.

Every club is looking to win lol. Some know they can win immediately and gamble on the short term, others know they can't win right away and invest in their future. Milan's management didn't know what they were trying to do, lol and neither do you.

SpartanMilan · Aug 12, 2018

jawz10 said:
Such a fallacy. Is Bonaventura an Italian international? Is Borini? So Cristante and Verdi would have been a better investment considering we were finishing in 10th-6th place all these years? Exactly. And before anyone says "we are Milan, we don't wait for talent", well apparently we're only Milan when we have money. Smart patient investment in youth is how you dig yourself out of a hole, something our mgmt and fans like yourself weren't willing to do out of arrogance.

That making space for Bonaventura, a player we all want gone, is your best argument... you lack vision. Its OK, so did Galliani. You have the foresight of a geriatric man. Congrats!

Lol, the fallacy here is defining ourselves as a Big Club. A bit of humility is in order. Big clubs have big money and win big trophies. If neither of those parameters are being met, then its best to stop holding yourself in such high regard.

He wasn't in his early 20's lol, nor was Cristante, nor Darmian. They were all about 18-19. We made average players the pillars of the club and wouldn't give time to our most talented youngsters who in the end proved our management wrong by ending up on BETTER teams than Milan.

Every club is looking to win lol. Some know they can win immediately and gamble on the short term, others know they can't win right away and invest in their future. Milan's management didn't know what they were trying to do, lol and neither do you.

Excellent post that pretty much sums up how I would have respond.

It's amazing after Gallani ran the club into the ground that people readily accept his telling of how the Cristante sale went down.

Michael Essien and Sulley Muntari got 29 games between the two of them the season after Cristante was sold, and we finished in 10th.

This is part of a larger negative trend, we went from being a CL Winner to a mid table club (and hopefully we are finally on the rebound), and during that time we have lost PEA, Darmian, Sokratis, Cristante, Verdi, etc (hell, Saponara was a key player on a team that only finished 7 points behind us, and Rodrigo Ely was a starter in La Liga), all while adding multiple older has beens to fill their roster spots.

You could take the players we gave up on and we'd be in a much better place.

I dont get the arrogance of fans that seem to have blacked out the past 5 or so years and all the mismanagement that caused/came with it.

Jasper · Aug 13, 2018

Good luck!

joyrider · Aug 13, 2018

Remove mole to come back.

Boban1982 · Aug 13, 2018

Not happy.

Surely a loan deal somewhere in Serie A could be found. To sell him permanently is likely to be a mistake.

Savo · Aug 13, 2018

Terrible move here. 12m? Wow do we undervalue our talented youths whereas we overpay for other unproven players... typical old style milan under galliani... this sale with NO option to buyback is prime to bite us in the ass just like cristante, just like Damian, just like verdi. Welcome back to the milan of old... so dumb. Even the silva deal was bad. So far there has been only 1 good move this offseason

Ronin · Aug 13, 2018

Bad move, but I guess it makes sense with Elliot's 3 year plan. They don't have the time to wait... and are trying to cash in on whoever is possible, in order to finance other moves.

Polotelli · Aug 13, 2018

If he'll become successful at Sassuolo we'll get him back

Else we got 12m

Savo · Aug 13, 2018

Polotelli said:
If he'll become successful at Sassuolo we'll get him back

Else we got 12m

Lol no we wont. Who have we done this with? Not with verdi, not with darmian, not with cristante, not with aubameyang.. no we wont get him back and even if he does decent he will be worth more than 12m

necromancer · Aug 13, 2018

Ciao ciao Loca.. may you become a better player. Thanks for the juvegol.

mleite · Aug 13, 2018

will miss him! :cry:

Milaniscool · Aug 13, 2018

Why not just loan him out with no buy option or obligation? Wtf

Hannibal · Aug 13, 2018

I don't understand this deal. Only way is maybe the intentions of the player himself

KujaIX · Aug 13, 2018

I think he clearly wanted to leave permanently.

Sassuolo would have accepted a buy-back, Locatelli wouldn't. Loads of teams would have accepted a loan, Locatelli wouldn't.

That's not blaming him, it's a fairly smart move on his part.

Polotelli · Aug 13, 2018

Wait there is no buy-back option?

Hannibal · Aug 13, 2018

KujaIX said:
I think he clearly wanted to leave permanently.

Sassuolo would have accepted a buy-back, Locatelli wouldn't. Loads of teams would have accepted a loan, Locatelli wouldn't.

That's not blaming him, it's a fairly smart move on his part.

Going by the rumours he definitely didn't want to be loaned. Either play him or sell him. I think Sassuolo would have accepted a buy-back as well. I wonder why Locatelli wouldn't.

If only Sassuolo had some good talents so that at least we would have first rights on them for giving them such a good deal on Locatelli.

vidarth · Aug 14, 2018

His farewell post showed that he's clearly pissed with Milan.

Don't understand why he was so against a buyback option. Oh well fuck him...

tuccero9 · Aug 14, 2018

good luck Manuel!

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