The Rumour Commode XXX: Return of the King

[Alo88]

Originally Posted by Master Smurf

Facts - and that is why I was never on the train.

When his name was flirted I thought 'good if he comes that means we actually have money...but I dont want him to be the manager because he will just bitch and moan and be out shortly after that'





Looks like I may have thrown too much dirt on the special one too as Spurs are riding high but the season is long. If Jose has them humming again next season then maybe the game actually hasnt passed him by.

Well, Mourinho came basically mid season and had to deal with the team in a disastrous negative spiral and had regularly missed his best players, especially Kane and later on Son (at the same time). There's only little he could do with all those circumstances.

I think this season is the 1st season you can base a fair evaluation of Mous work.

[Birsaforever]

Originally Posted by VultureSheva

Pogba-Pirlo-Vidal-Marchisio - Best midfield in Europe.
Chiellini-Barzagli-Bonucci - Probably the best defence in it?s time.
Tevez, Coman

?Shit squad?

https://www.transfermarkt.com/juvent...saison_id=2014

Allegri only added Dybala, Cuadrado and Sandro, and reached final. Conte couldn?t do more than group stages.

Dybala Cuadrado and Sandro came after the first CL final.

The significant signings of the first Allegri season were Evra, who only made one good season, and Morata. Others were Serie A average players that they needed for depth, like Isla, Pereyra and Sturaro.

[Birsaforever]

Originally Posted by Master Smurf

Facts - and that is why I was never on the train.
When his name was flirted I thought 'good if he comes that means we actually have money...but I dont want him to be the manager because he will just bitch and moan and be out shortly after that'.

I was on the "good if he comes" train too, not because of that, but because we were stuck with bad coaches and undisciplined team.

I think the best we had in the banter era was Mihajlovic, not exactly a superb tactician, but at least he was respected by the players, he asked and obtained Montolivo to train harder and reach decent fitness, making him and Kucka a pretty nice pair, he won a derby and made Mbaye Niang look like a beast.

Conte would have been an upgrade on him and of course on Montella too.

[VultureSheva]

Originally Posted by Birsaforever

People back them blamed Allegri for not winning CL with Kevin Constant.

Allegri was an easy scapegoat for Milan fans and management.

He played with Poli, Matri, Birsa, Urby, Saponara and such players, had half of the team with injuries (El Shaarawy, Montolivo, Constant, De Sciglio) and was forced to play Berlu?s 4-3-1-2 and then was blamed for not reaching top 3.

[VooDooDoll]

i was talking about conte with juve vs allegri with juve in europe, not 1 year vs 1 year

and conte had matri, lorente, tavez, giovinco in attack as best iirc
when allegri got dybala, gonzalo, madzu, morata, pjanic

after 1st year ucl final, allegri were eliminated in 1st ko stage next year
also allegri won 0/3 finals, i guess winning at least once should be possible if porto or chelsea could.

imo both are crap in different way, and i dont blame allegri for results with milan with crap players.

[VultureSheva]

Originally Posted by VooDooDoll

i was talking about conte with juve vs allegri with juve in europe, not 1 year vs 1 year

and conte had matri, lorente, tavez, giovinco in attack as best iirc
when allegri got dybala, gonzalo, madzu, morata, pjanic

after 1st year ucl final, allegri were eliminated in 1st ko stage next year
also allegri won 0/3 finals, i guess winning at least once should be possible if porto or chelsea could.

imo both are crap in different way, and i dont blame allegri for results with milan with crap players.

I was talking about Conte in Europe not in Serie A. Allegri lost Pogba and Vidal and was still able to do more in Europe than Conte has ever done. Conte?s conservative system with 3-5-2 never worked in UEFA competitions.

[Pingu]

Allegri > Me >>>> Conte

My 533 formation that I learnt from someone here is better than any 3ATB formation.

[Fabio]

Originally Posted by Pingu

Allegri > Me >>>> Conte

My 533 formation that I learnt from someone here is better than any 3ATB formation.

[Birsaforever]

Originally Posted by VooDooDoll

after 1st year ucl final, allegri were eliminated in 1st ko stage next year

Allegri never got eliminated in 1st stage, not even with Milan.

[Neruda]

Gotta say conte is the most overrated coach ive probably witnessed. His back 3 is laughable


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[Pingu]

Originally Posted by Neruda

Gotta say conte is the most overrated coach ive probably witnessed. His back 3 is laughable


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Skriniar is a member of that back 3 no?

[Phantomx]

Originally Posted by Pingu

Skriniar is a member of that back 3 no?

[leaf]

Originally Posted by IL Diavolo 3

Have you seen the meltdown at FiF?

It's majestic, heartwarming & viagra level of satisfaction.

I learned of it via my friend bru

Apparently Lukaku is no longer world class (until he scores again, at which time he'll be the second coming of Ibrahim Ba)

I HOPE they don't value Lukaku and send him our way the same way we got Seedorf and P!rl0. It might be a tough ask but I'll be happy to part with Columbo + ca$h

[Alo88]

Originally Posted by VultureSheva

Allegri was an easy scapegoat for Milan fans and management.

He played with Poli, Matri, Birsa, Urby, Saponara and such players, had half of the team with injuries (El Shaarawy, Montolivo, Constant, De Sciglio) and was forced to play Berlu?s 4-3-1-2 and then was blamed for not reaching top 3.

True. But prior to that he managed to lose scudetto with a team way superior to Contes Juve. At least for those who go by the narrative that Contes Juve wasn't that bad and he as a coach not that average.

I mean yeah, Muntaris goal can be used as a scapegoat for not winning the 2nd scudetto, but for me that's too easy. So in the end the question is: did Allegri loose the 2nd scudetto or Conte win it? Who's been the better/worse coach based on that year?

[Il grande Milan]

Originally Posted by Congo Powers

Anyone saying he?s a defensive liability is just regurgitating commentator?s hot takes. He doesn?t just have the pace, he?s the fastest..not just strong, the most strong. also the most handsome

No, we, aka 'the commentators', are watching the game for the love of this sport, not for 'the most handome guys with the cute asses'. A small, but important nuance, partner.

I don't even know who else said this about Theo, but it's obvious. I never said Theo is not strong or not very fast. He is fast, and he is strong but that's not enough to be called a good defender, OBVIOUSLY. Apparently my standards for a good defender are a little bit more demanding than yours. I'm aiming at his 1on1 confrontations against good attackers. Theo gets exposed every time. His 1o1 performance against Hakimi was shameful. We were not even 15-20 minutes far in the game against Inter and he got humiliated already 2-3 times.

[Congo Powers]

Theo Hernandez balon d’or

[Australiano1980]

Originally Posted by Ronin

yep, he's not that good at dribbling and other stuff a LW does... it would be just a waste to move him, idk why people are still discussing this idea

Not necessarily, he will adjust and develop other aspects of his game over time. Even Abate improved his defense over time and we saw it when he was played as CB.

We discuss the idea that he is more a winger than a fullback. He is a good player.

Originally Posted by LocalHero80

People not liking Theo, Romagnoli, Hauge etc.. why don't you support some other team?

Romagnoli is on the level of Kaladze (with his knee exploded). Need to improve.
Theo can play, is a good player. Defensively needs to be more focused.

And also Rafael Le?o needs to drop with that Balotelli attitude sometimes.

Originally Posted by LocalHero80

fullbacks in 2020 that are great defensively even CBs are hard to find.

True. My favourites nowdays are Milenkovic and Diego Carlos.

Originally Posted by VooDooDoll

do you remember this torino - milan game with conte spectating?!
and talks if he will become milan coach

Conte is overrated as hell.

Originally Posted by Birsaforever

Theo Hernandez has immense potential, but he must improve not only his defensive skills but also, the ability to build from behind without relying on his speed.

Perfect.

Originally Posted by IL Diavolo 3

There is a money potential in fifa even for regular users.

I sold 5 accounts for around $2k and I still have a very strong account.

Its dumb how kids spend their money these days.

That is been banned, read smt about it but didnt understand much, videogames isnt my thing. I think Belgium will forbid money/videogame.. ppl are sueing EASports for cheating users.

[Australiano1980]

Originally Posted by Congo Powers

Theo Hernandez balon d?or

But he cant even make his NT Congo boy.

[Pingu]

Originally Posted by Australiano1980

But he cant even make his NT Congo boy.

Would be unfair if the France NT played every game with Balon d'Or Theo "Handsome" Hernandez playing. No other team would stand a chance, and neither would the players wives after being on his boat.

[Congo Powers]

Originally Posted by Australiano1980

But he cant even make his NT Congo boy.

Spain? Or France?