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Mario

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So everyone seems to think that all of a sudden the management decided to scrap the stadium idea because ONE, i repeat ONE, report said it could be too expensive. If you were going by that article from FootballItalia you could have at least read the whole thing - ''The pink paper now believes that Milan will look at a site in the Sesto San Giovanni area.''
http://www.football-italia.net/45201/milan-abandon-expo-plans

Nothing is official, nothing is done, one thing is sure tho - the management wants to build a new stadium.
 

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And all of a sudden, the talks about the new stadium just ended???
 

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You guys act as if renovating the San Siro is that easy or even more so - cheaper.

San Siro is a disadvantage because of the lack of potential expansion for hotels, restaurants etc etc not to mention renovating it is like to cost as much as building a new stadium (if not more so)

Time for sentimentality is over. We need to move on

Fiera is miles out of town and actually pretty inconvenient to get to. San Siro has the benefit of being (relatively) near Lotto and therefore accessible directly from Duomo and Cadorna. Honestly makes a lot more sense to just redevelop San Siro if the cost isn't dramatically higher. I remember reading there were talks to buy the ipppdromo which would be ideal space for hotels/restaurants as part of the redevelopment.
 

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Milan says yes to the stage of properties: official request for the acquisition of aerial Expo

New stadium, AC Milan, signed by Barbara Berlusconi, today officially sent their expression of interest for the acquisition of part of the area after the Expo.
 

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Stadium is a pipe dream we cant put our hopes on it, it will happen when it will happen.
 

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“@Milanello: Milan's current plan is to build a new stadium with a capacity of 45-60.000. The price will be in the vicinity of €300m.”
 

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“@Milanello: Milan's current plan is to build a new stadium with a capacity of 45-60.000. The price will be in the vicinity of €300m.”

Seems legit. 45'000 seems to be a little bit too small but more than 60.000 wouldn't make sense.
 

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i just watched sky calciomercato and it is confirmed that milan will build new stadium and expo are is lady b dream and stadium will be 60 k with musiuem hotel 6-7 restorants and some lucii guy financial exper for sky tv says milan could incrase revenu for more then 60 -80 mil yearly couse adidas and audi also wants big screen bilboards that will work 24h day and will pay huge amount of money ,lady b is (according to all of them in studio ) real berlu buissneswomen and her dream is stadium like allianze arena .
 

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i just watched sky calciomercato and it is confirmed that milan will build new stadium and expo are is lady b dream and stadium will be 60 k with musiuem hotel 6-7 restorants and some lucii guy financial exper for sky tv says milan could incrase revenu for more then 60 -80 mil yearly couse adidas and audi also wants big screen bilboards that will work 24h day and will pay huge amount of money ,lady b is (according to all of them in studio ) real berlu buissneswomen and her dream is stadium like allianze arena .

You use the word CONFIRMED in wrong sentences. CONFIRMED is only then when the news gets out of the official website.
All I heard today was that Barbara sent the OFFER, cause today was the last day. And now the Mayor of Milano will evaluate all of their offers and only then make a decision if they will let us build or not.

You are doing a great job with the news don't get me wrong. But for us that don't have time to follow the news, you just get our hopes high and in the end.
 

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You use the word CONFIRMED in wrong sentences. CONFIRMED is only then when the news gets out of the official website.
All I heard today was that Barbara sent the OFFER, cause today was the last day. And now the Mayor of Milano will evaluate all of their offers and only then make a decision if they will let us build or not.

You are doing a great job with the news don't get me wrong. But for us that don't have time to follow the news, you just get our hopes high and in the end.

no ,last day for offer is on monday ,then sky sport is 99 % relieable when it comes to tv showes like today they had all informations and one of them told milan will build stadium it can be expo are or any other but barbara has ok from berlu for stadium couse she convinced him that is it greatest thing to do.and mayor of milano is huge milan fan by the way
 

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Won't believe it unless it 100% built and ready to use. And they are 15 years late on such project, if things keep going the way they do now even 15,000 seats would be too much by the time it will be ready.
 

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Reports estimate the price of new Stadium will cost around €300M for a capacity ranged between 45K to 60K and it will be opened in the end of 2015!

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Going from 85k to 45k is such a huge downgrade I hope we build 60k and still leave an option to expand if we manage to run things smoothly and feel that we can attract more fans. (I think of Barca and their plan to build a bigger stadium)

I also hope we can keep some of the traits of San Siro such as the steep stands I feel that San Siro has that something that's extra special and this is one of those things that intimidates our opponents
 

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Milan plan revolutionary stadium

"Milan are reportedly lining up plans for a new 55,000-seater stadium with revolutionary acoustics.

The Rossoneri are pushing through the project after formalising their interest for the Expo area of the city.

According to reports, the stadium will seat 55,000 and architects have planned an innovative structure that will make the acoustics much stronger than regular stadiums.

There will be panels to raise the sound towards the rafters and make the atmosphere extraordinary.

The cost of the project could require foreign investors and naming rights."
(Football-italia)
 

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I really hope this is true. A modern stadium will secure our future.
 

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Okay so what I think I understood about the new stadium. I was reading news from google on italian sites. It says that we OFFICIALLY sent an offer that it was signed by Barbara. An offer that we want to buy the land and build a stadium. I could also understood that Juventus bought the land when they built the stadium for 20 milion euros. And it also said that Milan will be ready to offer from 30 to 40 milion euros for the land. So getting the land seems to be the biggest problem.

I wish we had someone from Italy, to explain it better for us.
 
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MILAN HAVE made an official request to build a new stadium and some details have been revealed in the press today.
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San Siro has been the home of Milan for decades but they’re expected to move to a different stadium by the end of the 2010′s and yesterday they’ve made their desire to build a new arena known and official and some details have emerged.

Joint-CEO Barbara Berlusconi is the head of the new-stadium project and she has reportedly planned a revolutionary stadium (better than the Juventus Arena) which will make Milan’s home one of the best stadiums in all of Europe.

According to today’s La Gazzetta dello Sport, Barbara is interested in having a stadium with a capacity of 55,000. The Rossoneri have struggled in recent years to fill San Siro, which will host the 2016 UCL final and has room for above 80,000 people and the stands look empty and players spoke in the past about how it’s sad to play football in an empty stadium.

The atmosphere in the stadium is another very important aspect and Milan have reportedly contacted architects so they’ll create a unique stadium structure that will enable better acoustics then in other stadiums in the world as there will be panels to raise the sound towards the rafters. The cost of the project is expected to be around €300 million and in order to fund it, Milan could use foreign investors or sell the naming rights of the stadium to one of the sponsors or an investor.

In addition to the arena, Milan are also planning to build a parking lot. The location Milan desire is where the 2015 EXPO will be held and il Diavolo have a contract for San Siro until the year of 2016. Milan await an answer for their request to build.
 

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Milan, inter & a new stadium – why the site in rho is so expensive (updated 17/03/14)

MILAN, INTER AND A NEW STADIUM – WHY THE SITE IN RHO IS SO EXPENSIVE (UPDATED 17/03/14)

They're only eight or so years behind the rest of Europe, but at last new stadia have become all the rage in Italy. Now that clubs have had a chance to take a long look to Turin and analyse the benefits of a pristine, club-owned venue, they all want one.

Milan are no different. What started as a plan, with Inter, to simply buy San Siro and the neighbouring hippodrome from the Milan city council, has now turned into a hunt for a plot of land able to take the construction of a fresh arena.

Both Milan and Inter have identified a site in Rho, northwest of the city (it’s a separate municipality, not located in the city of Milan), where the 2015 Expo will take place.

The reason it’s so popular? Because in order to host the Expo the land is being completely redeveloped – new facilities, buildings and an improved transport infrastructure mean that, in the simplest of terms, all Milan or Inter would need to do is build the stadium.

The construction and compatibility of the surrounding area for new facilities – important for all sports arenas to ensure they can be used 24 hours a day, 365 days a year – will largely have been completed for them.

The problem is that this redevelopment has come at a great cost to all who are involved in putting the Expo together.

La Gazzetta recently ran a piece claiming that Milan president Silvio Berlusconi wanted to look for a different territory for a new ground, as it would cost around €300m just to acquire the plot in Rho, not including stadium construction costs.

What La Gazzetta didn’t detail is why it would cost €300m, and nor did they anticipate that the land could well cost a whole lot more than that.

Arexpo SpA is the company that manages the land upon which the 2015 Expo will take place, with a role to oversee its redevelopment and ensure a sustainable post-Expo plan for the area is in place.

The company was originally controlled entirely by the Lombardy administration, but is now comprised of five shareholders, who each have a differing stake:

Regione Lombardia – the administrators of the Lombardy region – own 34.67%
Comune di Milano – the Milan city council – also own 34.67%
Fondazione Fiera Milano – a trade show company that hosts various exhibitions – own 27.66%
Provincia di Milano – the Milan province (not the city) – own 2%
Comune di Rho – Rho city council – own 1%



Prior to the formation of Arexpo SpA, the site was owned by the Fondazione Fiera Milano (50%), Belgioiosa (a private company, who owned 30%) and the Milan and Rho city councils (the remaining 20%), although one lot belonged to the Italian Post Office, which has agreed to leave the land in return for being relocated elsewhere.

The Fondazione Fiera Milano sold part of their land for €66.4m to the Arexpo group, and then converted the rest of the land under their control into shares in the company to retain a stake in the site. The Cabassi brothers, who own Belgioiosa, sold their 30% for €49.6m.

The Milan city council then bought into Arexpo SpA , with their 34.6% stake costing €32m.

As a result of the investment, and realising they had no chance whatsoever of affording the redevelopments costs without help, the Lombardy administration reduced its stake to 34.67%.

Not only did these five stakeholders buy into ownership of the land, but they each invested varying sums of money for the purposes of redeveloping the plot for the six-month Expo. The contributions of the parties involved in running the Expo are as follows:

€1.486b – the Italian government
€218mthe Lombardy administration
€218mMilan city council
€109mMilan province
€109mthe Milan chamber of commerce
(a chamber of commerce is just a collection of businesses from the area)
€260m – private investors


You can already see where La Gazzetta obtained their €300m figure from.

The Milan city council have invested €250m into the project – €218m for their part in developing the land and infrastructure, plus €32m for a large stake in Arexpo SpA.

That is money they will look to recoup, with the chance to make a tidy profit by selling some of their land to Milan or Inter.

To get an idea of the level of overall investment into this site, and consequently why it is a potentially valuable area, it is worth looking at some of the figures and where the money was spent. €1.235b alone was spent preparing and constructing the site for the Expo, €1.78b on transport infrastructure, and €91m on increasing the land capacity.

It is a financial trade-off for the Milan clubs – the costs of this redevelopment and transport improvement are going to be passed on to whoever wants to buy a plot, but at the same time the area is ready-made for a football stadium.

Transport links to the Rho area are considerably better than the current links to San Siro, where the M1 line to Rho on Milan’s metro is often overcrowded on sell-out matchdays because Lotto is the only station serving the ground (though by 2015 the new M5 line will have a San Siro stop, right outside the stadium).

The proposed new area is further out – you have to stay on M1 and carry on to Rho, instead of alighting at Lotto – but there are also rail links to Rho Fiera Milano station, and three motorways linking Milan and other cities to the site.

The Arexpo group recognise the strength of what they own. The post-Expo plan, which had to be drawn up as part of the conditions of hosting the event, acknowledges that the infrastructure for services on the site itself is suitable for sporting use:

The main buildings will be maintained and turned into structures of public or general interest for the city, to be used for services, entertainment, concerts and sports facilities.

‘All thematic pavilions will be turned into facilities for the city (entertainment, sports, services and exhibition spaces).’

Unfortunately, the fact that it would not need as great a regeneration as the area surrounding San Siro, means the land is going to come at a premium for Milan or Inter, should they wish to buy it.

That said, a renovation of San Siro alone would be cheaper – and that option has caused a miniature game of cat and mouse to develop between the two.

Initially, reports suggested Inter were the ones looking to move to a new stadium, while Milan were happy to anticipate a Nerazzurri success in this quest, and therefore seemed content to attempt to buy and renovate San Siro, even though they submitted a proposal of interest for the Expo site.

Roberto Maroni, president of the Lombardy region (who, remember, have invested at least €218m into the project), was quick to encourage Inter to put forward a proposal of their own in December, presumably with the intention of driving the price up, and even pinpointed the area where any stadium would be built.

But since the arrival of Erick Thohir as Inter president, the scenario appears to have switched.

Ernesto Paolillo, Inter’s ex-director general, strongly implied Inter’s reticence to push on with the situation lay at the door of Thohir, claiming that he and his former club ‘lacked the courage’ to go ahead with a new stadium, that he believed Inter were going to be the ones to leave, but that now Milan have the advantage.

For his part, whenever the issue has cropped up in discussion, Thohir has been reluctant to commit either way, perhaps because he cottoned on early to the expense of the site in Rho, but primarily due to his desire to stabilise the club financially. In December last year, he was clear in saying that it was important for the club to evaluate building a new stadium versus renovating San Siro – essentially the more costly option versus the cheaper one.

In February 2014, he went a step further, explaining that a new stadium is ‘not a priority’ and that they will talk about it next year, possibly fuelled by the reports that Milan were now actively seeking to vacate San Siro.

And that sums up the position of the two clubs at the moment – one seemingly happy to wait for the other to make a move.

Milan appear to have realised that Thohir is in no rush to plan a new ground, and combined with Barbara Berlusconi’s appointment to the board of directors, are making plans of their own to leave.

Inter and Thohir, with an eye on what’s happening in the red half of Milan, will keep their options open for now.



UPDATE:

Milan were the only team to submit a proposal for the Expo site by the deadline set by Arexpo.

The proposal features plans for a stadium, to be built on the east side of the site, with a maximum capacity of 60,000, with additional space requested for facilities around the ground to aid the running of matchdays.

Milan have also requested space for retail areas, and have expressed an interest in other areas of the site for the potential to build other sporting facilities and structures.

This is just a proposal – Arexpo do not have to accept it, and even if they do, they must come to an agreement with Milan over a price for the land.
 

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Well...300M for only the land is a lot-stadium isnt included. We should take a leasing like juve did for about 100 years. Even bayern wouldnt pay 300M in one shot...no one isnt that dumb.
 

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Well...300M for only the land is a lot-stadium isnt included. We should take a leasing like juve did for about 100 years. Even bayern wouldnt pay 300M in one shot...no one isnt that dumb.

Getting land in milan seems pretty difficult, yeah its a lot........but, Id rather the club make a huge investment and reap the benefits in the long term, rather that do nothing for the next 5 years and lose out on income because we dont own the san siro.

Plus, an investment like that means :b: means business, and we really are going to try to make the club something great again.
 

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don't feel like reading any articles. is this shit happening or not? what are the existing hurdles?
 

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Idk I somehow got the impression that that location is perfect for building, but yeah its expensive. But i really want us to build the stadium, if i could choose between buying messi and new stadium i d go for the stadium. there s no future for us if we wont be generating money and not having our own modern stadium is a huge setback. That will always haunt us.
 

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don't feel like reading any articles. is this shit happening or not? what are the existing hurdles?

we gave a bid for some land wich allegendly costs 300m wich is way too much. Land is so expensive because of the ownership structure, there are many shareholders but it seems perfect location wise i even heared some1 mentioning that it has better public transportation connections than san siro. Now we wait if our bid is going to be accepted or not.
 

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we gave a bid for some land wich allegendly costs 300m wich is way too much. Land is so expensive because of the ownership structure, there are many shareholders but it seems perfect location wise i even heared some1 mentioning that it has better public transportation connections than san siro. Now we wait if our bid is going to be accepted or not.

300 million isn't that much overall. Eastern European teams build stadiums for more than Juve build theirs. It is the fact that as soon as Roma's one is up and running this is gonna be 2 team league. Just selling rights to the name can bring 100-200million Euro for a long term contract. Then deduct the rental fee of the stadium from the budget. Add the cut the city gets from all match day sales, rental of conference rooms and boxes. Set a club museum on grounds too. Also, you don't think that stadium only earns during match day? All top managed stadiums are 100% self sufficient or in profit. Also, it is 100% that Ac Milan needs to chip in for maintenance let alone extra costs of security which legally have to be provided by the club in Europe to be eligible to be registered. Stadium is crucial!!! I wouldn't care if we play youth and uknown players for the next 3yrs if someone said that the construction starts tomorrow.
 
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Im glad for Roma. These 2 are gonna battle it out for the scudetto for years to come simply because of the stadium
 

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