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Old 24-08-2019, 19:29   #261
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Pepe looked good for Arsenal, but missed a huge chance in 1st half, due to relying on his left foot only...
Ya definitely kid has a lot potential...he will be a good one. Liverpool are just too strong though, specially at home they are practically unbeatable.
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Old 25-08-2019, 00:38   #262
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Pepe looked good for Arsenal, but missed a huge chance in 1st half, due to relying on his left foot only...
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Old 25-08-2019, 11:28   #263
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Old 25-08-2019, 16:07   #264
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United just keep on trucking' lol
We really have been very unlucky the last two games. We dominated both and two missed pens cos us 2 points vs Wolves and probably all 3 vs Palace (we would have gone on to win).

In saying that, this really is where we are now. Most of our players are mid-table level. McTomminay, Lingard, Shaw, and James who started yesterday plus the likes of Young, Matic, Fred, Pereira, Mata, Jones etc beneath that.

What is truly excruciating is watching us play Lingard as the 10 when Gomes was far better all pre season. Lingard is without a single PL goal or assist in 11 of the last 12 months. Literally zero.
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Old 25-08-2019, 16:43   #265
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We really have been very unlucky the last two games. We dominated both and two missed pens cos us 2 points vs Wolves and probably all 3 vs Palace (we would have gone on to win).

In saying that, this really is where we are now. Most of our players are mid-table level. McTomminay, Lingard, Shaw, and James who started yesterday plus the likes of Young, Matic, Fred, Pereira, Mata, Jones etc beneath that.

What is truly excruciating is watching us play Lingard as the 10 when Gomes was far better all pre season. Lingard is without a single PL goal or assist in 11 of the last 12 months. Literally zero.
Yes indeed this is where United are now, crazy to think that with the amounts of spending they've done. Through all the spending and transfer records they've broken it's shocking to see that this is the squad they have to show for it. Sometimes I watch them and wonder where the hell is all that money spent, what I see on the pitch can't be it lol. They had trouble scoring last year and now that they've sold Lukaku without replacing him it's probably gonna be the same story this season. Top 4 will be a challenge for them once again.
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Old 25-08-2019, 16:46   #266
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Bertolacci may very well be a must sign player, considering everything. He could be to us for the next five years, what Marchisio is to Juve.
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Old 25-08-2019, 18:46   #267
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Old 25-08-2019, 20:04   #268
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Yes indeed this is where United are now, crazy to think that with the amounts of spending they've done. Through all the spending and transfer records they've broken it's shocking to see that this is the squad they have to show for it. Sometimes I watch them and wonder where the hell is all that money spent, what I see on the pitch can't be it lol. They had trouble scoring last year and now that they've sold Lukaku without replacing him it's probably gonna be the same story this season. Top 4 will be a challenge for them once again.
2008-2013: Under investment in the team, covered by SAF's ability to get the best out of everyone.

2014-2017: spent a ton of money on players, most of whom flopped. We also sold some players that should never have been allowed to go under LVG and it created a huge rot in the dressing room.

2018: We bought Fred and nobody else lol.

2019: Lost two CM's and replaced neither. Lost Lukaku with no replacement and failed to fix the RW position for the 5th season in a row.

Basically we have had a decade of bad management. I don't think there's any way out of this unless a Saudi regime come in and want a dick measuring contest with City's owners.

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Old 26-08-2019, 00:40   #269
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2014-2017: spent a ton of money on players, most of whom flopped.
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Old 26-08-2019, 04:15   #270
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2008-2013: Under investment in the team, covered by SAF's ability to get the best out of everyone.

2014-2017: spent a ton of money on players, most of whom flopped. We also sold some players that should never have been allowed to go under LVG and it created a huge rot in the dressing room.

2018: We bought Fred and nobody else lol.

2019: Lost two CM's and replaced neither. Lost Lukaku with no replacement and failed to fix the RW position for the 5th season in a row.

Basically we have had a decade of bad management. I don't think there's any way out of this unless a Saudi regime come in and want a dick measuring contest with City's owners.
I don't think United need Saudi money to compete with City. They've spent basically similar amount of money as City to build their team, they've just spent horribly and on the wrong players. They just need someone at the helm with a vision that will stick to a plan.
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Old 26-08-2019, 04:17   #271
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Liverpool under Klopp are fucking awesome. The way they play, its simply beautiful to watch.
I agree. A joy to watch them play.
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Old 26-08-2019, 12:03   #272
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Old 26-08-2019, 20:03   #273
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I don't think United need Saudi money to compete with City. They've spent basically similar amount of money as City to build their team, they've just spent horribly and on the wrong players. They just need someone at the helm with a vision that will stick to a plan.
In the last 5 years they have spent 150M more than us but whereas our spending was on a rebuild (done badly) due to to 5 years of underspending, there's was to build on the years prior where they massively outspent anyone and built the nucleus of Kompany, Zabaleta, Aguero, Silva, Toure etc.

Our huge spending has stopped now though - 50M and about 70M net spent in the last two seasons despite acknowledgement that we have to play catch up.

We basically don't have the ambition in the boardroom to compete. It will be the same next Summer. We'll lose Pogba then and probably be out of the CL for another season so I'm not sure which top player will want us.
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Old 27-08-2019, 17:17   #274
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Manchester United legend Eric Cantona is set to be handed the 2019 UEFA President's Award in recognition of his playing career and commitment to charitable causes after it.
The 53-year-old Frenchman will receive the award in Monaco on Thursday during the Champions League group stage draw.
"This award not only recognises his career as a player of the highest calibre, but also honours him for the person he is," said UEFA president Aleksander Ceferin.
"A man who refuses compromise, who stands up for his values, who speaks his mind and in particular, puts his heart and his soul into supporting the causes he believes in."

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Old 28-08-2019, 19:56   #275
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"In this situation all that matters is the players health and in this case Michael Edwards has totally ignored that because of his own stubbornness and I really pray that his experience doesn't happen to any young players again."


Rubie's statement drew a response from Reds legend Jamie Carragher, who attacked the agent.


The ex-defender tweeted: "I know Bobby & his family well, he's young & at that age we all want everything right now. Played for the 1st team in pre season which is a great start & he should try & develop this season & maybe make the bench in Caraboa Cup.


"That should be the advice you're giving him you [clown]."

And Rubie replied: "Do you also want to give advice on how to spit at people from the outside of a car? You're the last person to say or know what's really going on behding the scenes [sic]. Focus on your job and I'll focus on mine."


But Carragher was contrite in replying: "I made a huge mistake & apologised, I hurt myself more than anyone. You have made a big mistake & are hurting yourself but more importantly a young lads career. Throwing Stevie Gerrard's name in also is embarrassing."


Rubie responded: "No problem Jamie. But in life you can't be wrong and strong. When the truth comes out as to how Michael Edwards has handled Bobby's wellbeing and future you will be thinking differently I promise you. Not a single word in the statement is not the hard truth."

Carragher claimed: "There is a problem & it's you. You take on the most powerful person at the club besides Klopp?!! Madness. Club will never deal with you again."


But Rubie was adamant: "You talking about the glorified data analyst Michael Edwards? The one who doesn't even know that Kevin-Prince Boateng is a midfielder not a centre forward. Goes to show how much he knows. Oh and he doesn't give a s*** about a young players well-being more importantly."


And Carragher made his stance clear with a tweet reading: "I think Bobby Duncan should leave this guy before he gets sacked by the club."







carragher is a right...
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In the last 5 years they have spent 150M more than us but whereas our spending was on a rebuild (done badly) due to to 5 years of underspending, there's was to build on the years prior where they massively outspent anyone and built the nucleus of Kompany, Zabaleta, Aguero, Silva, Toure etc.

Our huge spending has stopped now though - 50M and about 70M net spent in the last two seasons despite acknowledgement that we have to play catch up.

We basically don't have the ambition in the boardroom to compete. It will be the same next Summer. We'll lose Pogba then and probably be out of the CL for another season so I'm not sure which top player will want us.

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Are we talking about a 'loan watch' here?
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Old 03-09-2019, 15:47   #280
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More of the same lol. Trying to play attacking football but with mid table quality in the team.

Add that to the two missed penalties and two lindeloff mistakes and here we are.

Unless Arsenal collapse we have no chance of getting 4th. It's EL or bust.
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