Official: Stefano Pioli Thread

Goodfella · Jan 25, 2020

5 wins, 2 draws, 1 loss in the last 8 league games. 17 points. Only Juve and Lazio have accumulated more points.
Make it 6 wins, if you count the Coppa game.
6 clean sheets in 9 games.

The Atalanta disaster aside, results-wise, this has been a very good period.
This "worst of all time" season is starting to look no different to the other disappointing post-Berlusconi seasons. The team is picking up form during the same period, when it's probably too late for Top 4.

31 points after 21 rounds. That's exactly the same as in the 2017-2018 season.
4 points off last season, but the same amount of wins(9).

Pingu · Jan 25, 2020

Goodfella said:
5 wins, 2 draws, 1 loss in the last 8 league games. 17 points. Only Juve and Lazio have accumulated more points.
Make it 6 wins, if you count the Coppa game.
6 clean sheets in 9 games.

The Atalanta disaster aside, results-wise, this has been a very good period.
This "worst of all time" season is starting to look no different to the other disappointing post-Berlusconi seasons. The team is picking up form during the same period, when it's probably too late for Top 4.

31 points after 21 rounds. That's exactly the same as in the 2017-2018 season.
4 points off last season, but the same amount of wins(9).

The issue is that other teams are becoming more competitive and not just Juve. Look at Inter and Lazio this year, Atalanta building on last season. Roma strong enough as well. Only team on a downward trend is Napoli.
Each year teams seem to be getting better in the league while we keep making the seemly wrong choices each time. Getting the same results/points is redundant as the gap grows wider. Need to close it ASAP.

CapitanoMaldini · Jan 29, 2020

All of his subs had a positive impact last game and basically won us the match.

Deserves more credit than he receives. Far more adaptable than Giampaolo and has put our summer purchases in a far better position to succeed.

KujaIX · Jan 29, 2020

He got underrated because he joined when we had a horrid string of games upcoming.

And even then we played better than most expected.

He's doing well.

agsgualdino · Jan 30, 2020

I like him. he came in at the worst possible time and somehow steadied the ship..im interested to see how he goes in this second half of the season. Forza Pioli

Pingu · Jan 30, 2020

Doing as well as one can expect after starting out poor. Time will tell if this is his "honeymoon" period like Gattuso had his strong after Christmas run his first year (8W, 1 D, 1L from Jan to March) or if we can keep up momentum the whole season. Gattuso ended that spell with 0 wins in 7 which destroyed the season.

Birsaforever · Jan 30, 2020

Pingu said:
Doing as well as one can expect after starting out poor. Time will tell if this is his "honeymoon" period like Gattuso had his strong after Christmas run his first year (8W, 1 D, 1L from Jan to March) or if we can keep up momentum the whole season. Gattuso ended that spell with 0 wins in 7 which destroyed the season.

Hallo, your signature is gold. Have a nice day.

Az. · Jan 30, 2020

His biggest strength so far is that he plays no favourites. Long may it continue, and hopefully with good results attached.

Mr. Milanista · Jan 30, 2020

Az. said:
His biggest strength so far is that he plays no favourites. Long may it continue, and hopefully with good results attached.

Only positive thing about him IMO, he plays the players that deserve to play.

WILL2K · Feb 13, 2020

Overall he is doing a fine job, my only comcern is his ability to adjust tactics during the game. Inter scored some odd goals, yes but we allowed them to exploit spaces because we approached the second half exactly how we did during the first.

Thenebra · Feb 13, 2020

I am actually very pleased with pioli.

He did beyond my expectations.

A good caretaker.

Pingu · Feb 13, 2020

1st half vs. Inter and today, he seems to be getting good play out of the team. Keep it up for the rest of the season please mister.

Birsaforever · Feb 13, 2020

Pingu said:
1st half vs. Inter and today, he seems to be getting good play out of the team. Keep it up for the rest of the season please mister.

VooDooDoll · Feb 13, 2020

make changes earlier ... you cant keep this intense with players running 80 minutes each game

Goodfella · Feb 13, 2020

VooDooDoll said:
make changes earlier ... you cant keep this intense with players running 80 minutes each game

Change which players?

Leao for Rebic?
Paq for Hakan?
Even fatigued Rebic and Hakan work harder than them and play at a faster pace than them.

There's no alternative to Bennacer, Kessie & Ibra.

VooDooDoll · Feb 13, 2020

even bona for 20 minutes is better than dead hakan

Ronin · Feb 13, 2020

Very pleased with him. If we keep improving like this, he should be extended.

Too bad Maldoban fucked him up by not reinforcing the squad... I think we would've had some chances for top 4

Birsaforever · Feb 13, 2020

VooDooDoll said:
make changes earlier ... you cant keep this intense with players running 80 minutes each game

If Paq and Leao improves tactically and Jack get back in a good form, you might see earlier changes

milanator · Feb 13, 2020

The current approach definitely makes good use of Samu`s, Hakan`s and Rebic`s work rate/pressing capabilities.

Ibra is the key though, he puts in a decent work rate but also the intelligence and talent the other before mentioned attackers simply don't have.

Boban1982 · Feb 14, 2020

milanator said:
The current approach definitely makes good use of Samu`s, Hakan`s and Rebic`s work rate/pressing capabilities.

Ibra is the key though, he puts in a decent work rate but also the intelligence and talent the other before mentioned attackers simply don't have.

You are right - Ibra is the key. He makes such a difference and even at 38 he is light years in front of all the other strikers in the squad.

Pingu · Feb 14, 2020

Ronin said:
Very pleased with him. If we keep improving like this, he should be extended.

Too bad Maldoban fucked him up by not reinforcing the squad... I think we would've had some chances for top 4

As much as we might get trolled for it, tempted to agree. If Elliot isn't selling this summer, and results under Pioli improve as well as keeping up the great play we've seen yesterday/1st half vs. Inter then another year under Pioli for consistency wouldn't be the worst. Get rid of the deadwood, bring in more quality where needed (RB, DM, etc) and build upon something for once rather than change it all and start from zero again. Giving the core team a chance to grow under a coach like Pioli who isn't a top coach, if he can bring consistency from now til season's end, is more important to me than EL at this point if it means sacrificing that again for next year.

If Elliot sells, then I'd expect a revolution across the board and a new coach.

necromancer · Feb 14, 2020

If there's no sale, there's absolutely no reason to fire Pioli. He's cheap and gives really good value for a 2 million euro per year coach.

Hitchens · Feb 14, 2020

Really likeable guy who's done a lot for the mentality of this group.

Sognatore · Feb 14, 2020

necromancer said:
If there's no sale, there's absolutely no reason to fire Pioli. He's cheap and gives really good value for a 2 million euro per year coach.

This isn't a good reason to keep him though. To save a couple of millions on a position that might make or break a whole season with potential CL income and what-not speaks for itself.

That being said I'm not against the idea of keeping him if we continue on this route.

Goodfella · Feb 14, 2020

milanator said:
The current approach definitely makes good use of Samu`s, Hakan`s and Rebic`s work rate/pressing capabilities.

Ibra is the key though, he puts in a decent work rate but also the intelligence and talent the other before mentioned attackers simply don't have.

Ibra has a regular targetman role compared to the one-man-army of 2011-2012 who formed almost the entirety of our attack.
He's not our main creator or, until this point, even main goalscorer. He's a cog in a machine.
He has, along with Rebic and Samu, added to the promising team of October-November without taking away anything.

He's doing what Piatek & Cutrone could not do. Sure, this makes him crucial to this side, but he's replaceable. He's "only" doing what Giroud did for Arsenal, Dzeko for Roma or Llorente for Juve & Tottenham.
The club should look for someone of that type, as substitute and successor to Ibra. Maybe Cornelius?

milanator · Feb 14, 2020

Goodfella said:
Ibra has a regular targetman role compared to the one-man-army of 2011-2012 who formed almost the entirety of our attack.
He's not our main creator or, until this point, even main goalscorer. He's a cog in a machine.
He has, along with Rebic and Samu, added to the promising team of October-November without taking away anything.

He's doing what Piatek & Cutrone could not do. Sure, this makes him crucial to this side, but he's replaceable. He's "only" doing what Giroud did for Arsenal, Dzeko for Roma or Llorente for Juve & Tottenham.
The club should look for someone of that type, as substitute and successor to Ibra. Maybe Cornelius?

Definitely more regular target man (and man those extra 10cm hight up front help a lot too) than in his first stint but he does these little playmaking things so well and quick that it is still something exceptional.

I‘d agree that he is replaceable but it won‘t be easy.

Milan2012 · Feb 14, 2020

After loosing 5-0 there’s no way I see Pioli staying.

Ronin · Feb 15, 2020

Milan2012 said:
After loosing 5-0 there’s no way I see Pioli staying.

calm your tits... if everybody would go with this logic, even top coaches would rarely last more than 1 season

ffs :fp:

Milan2012 · Feb 15, 2020

Ronin said:
calm your tits... if everybody would go with this logic, even top coaches would rarely last more than 1 season

ffs

That game was a massacre on all aspects. Pioli is not a top level coach, honestly he hasn’t won one big game for us.
He’s a good interim coach, I’ll give him that.

KujaIX · Feb 15, 2020

Milan2012 said:
That game was a massacre on all aspects. Pioli is not a top level coach, honestly he hasn’t won one big game for us.
He’s a good interim coach, I’ll give him that.

To act like he's a failure is utter lunacy.

He has steadied the ship, found a suitable formation and challenged the big teams in a way we've struggled to in a long time.

It's almost getting to a point where I approach a big game with relish instead of mayonnaise.

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