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Old 20-10-2019, 15:58   #15441
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Old 20-10-2019, 16:00   #15442
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De Bruyne when he went from Chelsea to Wolfsburg for a mere 20m. Factor in the historically great AC Milan tax and that deal could have been done for 30m.

It's about having the right talent spotters that are able to see the ideal characteristics in players with big potential for this current Milan.

Milan is currently a steeping stone club in it's current plight. WC can only be developed in house currently(over time)
Not saying that you are wrong but KDB went to Wolfsburg as a "failed"Chelsea player. Overall I agree with your assessment. It gets frustrating sometimes


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Old 20-10-2019, 16:10   #15443
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https://www.theguardian.com/football...apped-violence

Great article about the infamous match between Milan and Estudiantes


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Old 20-10-2019, 16:13   #15444
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Paquetá will start on the right-side of the midfield tonight, with Kessié occupying the left-hand side. [Sky]

+Hakan starting as LW, as it seems.

Ffs, I hoped that Pioli will be smarter...what's the point of this? Useless rotation, just play the best fucking XI, in their positions, are we asking too much?
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Old 20-10-2019, 16:17   #15445
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What? VVD, Alisson, Keita, Fabinho, Salah, Mane, Chamberlain and Wijnaldum cost 400 m. 8 players for 400 m means 50 m average. How is that not spending large sums?
That’s assuming they sold nobody. I think we have spent a similar amount actually. If not something close to that.
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Old 20-10-2019, 16:18   #15446
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Paqueta on the right is not a bad idea. Kessie usually gets into good positions with Suso/Calabria's help but proves to be useless.

On the other hand, Hakan + Kessie on the left means we won't create shit... only hope on Theo.


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Old 20-10-2019, 16:19   #15447
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That’s assuming they sold nobody. I think we have spent a similar amount actually. If not something close to that.
In RnB world how much you sold has no importance


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Old 20-10-2019, 16:19   #15448
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Can we stop double counting the amount we paid for Bonucci with the swap with Caldara? It annoys me so much.

Salah went for 42m. Bonuses made it go to 50m. I assume those bonuses were met. Salah was bought while they still had Coutinho, and how many people said they'd prefer Suso? Or that Salah was just pace? Even though he was literally scoring 15 goals and assisting 15 goals (around that) for two seasons in a row at Roma?

Milan had to replace an entire team after Berlusconi. Other big teams are constantly pumping money into their squads, and we use random bursts, we don't build up anything, and it hurts the development of young players.
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https://www.theguardian.com/football...apped-violence

Great article about the infamous match between Milan and Estudiantes
Great read. Thanks for sharing


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Old 20-10-2019, 16:24   #15450
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https://www.theguardian.com/football...apped-violence

Great article about the infamous match between Milan and Estudiantes
WTF.
The hell did I just read. Was this a football article or a gangster story.
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Old 20-10-2019, 16:27   #15451
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WTF.
The hell did I just read. Was this a football article or a gangster story.
It is mental but I never realised it was this bad.

It's commonly held up as one of the most violent matches of football but I didn't realise they were literally headbutting players off the ball throughout the match.


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Old 20-10-2019, 16:30   #15452
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In RnB world how much you sold has no importance
Literally nobody has even mentioned the balance in and out. Nobody bar 2 people who are trying to prove their point which makes zero sense. I don't give a shit how much Liverpool got from sales. We are talking about spending. Spending means you pay someone for something. They spent big. Want me to repeat it?

It's a yes or no question. Did Liverpool spend big since 2015?


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Old 20-10-2019, 16:31   #15453
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Can we stop double counting the amount we paid for Bonucci with the swap with Caldara? It annoys me so much.

Salah went for 42m. Bonuses made it go to 50m. I assume those bonuses were met. Salah was bought while they still had Coutinho, and how many people said they'd prefer Suso? Or that Salah was just pace? Even though he was literally scoring 15 goals and assisting 15 goals (around that) for two seasons in a row at Roma?

Milan had to replace an entire team after Berlusconi. Other big teams are constantly pumping money into their squads, and we use random bursts, we don't build up anything, and it hurts the development of young players.
They bought Salah after they sold Coutinho. They also sold Sterling and Suarez and rebuild as well. We rebuild very poorly indeed. I do understand your overall point though.
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https://www.theguardian.com/football...apped-violence

Great article about the infamous match between Milan and Estudiantes
NIce article, this must have created some injuries.
Imagine Suso in such a match.
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Old 20-10-2019, 16:52   #15455
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NIce article, this must have created some injuries.
Imagine Suso in such a match.
Suso and Samu would've led to there being casualties.


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Old 20-10-2019, 16:52   #15456
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All direct competitors lost points this weekend. If we win we will be 7th 4 points behind top 4. Not that bad position if we start playing well...


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All direct competitors lost points this weekend. If we win we will be 7th 4 points behind top 4. Not that bad position if we start playing well...
8th behind Lazio on goal difference. 9th if Fiorentina beat Brescia tomorrow
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Old 20-10-2019, 17:05   #15458
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Literally nobody has even mentioned the balance in and out. Nobody bar 2 people who are trying to prove their point which makes zero sense. I don't give a shit how much Liverpool got from sales. We are talking about spending. Spending means you pay someone for something. They spent big. Want me to repeat it?

It's a yes or no question. Did Liverpool spend big since 2015?
You can repeat it as long as you want, it's still an idiotic argument.

Yes, they've spent, but that indicator alone is irrelevant.

The conclusion is that they have invested only 100m in transfers and built a CL winning team. M. City have invested 500m


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Old 20-10-2019, 17:08   #15459
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8th behind Lazio on goal difference. 9th if Fiorentina beat Brescia tomorrow
Not much difference. Too early for calculations. What is important is we will be not very far away from top 4. We will need 6 points against Roma and Lazio though in order to compensate the fuck ups agains Udinese and Viola. Worst case 4 points and a win against Spal before the 2 extreme games


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Old 20-10-2019, 17:10   #15460
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Not really. Liverpool haven’t spent large sums of money. Their biggest transfer was Van Djik. Salah, Mane and Firmino cost all in the region of 30 million pounds and weren’t world beaters when they joined. In addition they all came over a couple of seasons not all in one season. It’s not like Liverpool spent large sums like Man U or Man City. Not even close. Klopp wasn’t even great in his first season, he build his team up slowly, still has players like Milner in the line up and Lovren in the line up, went to the final without Alisson. Building a team around a great coach was what Liverpool did. Despite losing Sterling and Suarez.

Liverpool were tame in terms of spending. Liverpool is what happens when you get a great coach and give him time which Milan fails to understand to this very day.


Just checked transfermarkt. You’re right. Compared to other EPL teams Liverpool was quite moderate. They spend 440M since he arrived in october 2015. That’s quite moderate even compared to our spendings in the same time tbf.

And yeah in the same time they made some lucrative sellings too.

Guess that’s quite a role model for every top club in Europe to follow.
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