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Old 14-06-2011, 06:55   #81
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Give him a year In Serie A. If he scores against the top four , and consistently gets goals , a tleast 15, then buy him. If he actually loves Milan then he'd wait for another year. Co-owning him is also another good idea ,but we might include him in some deal for another player as we do with our young. Buying him now is risky.And year later his price might just hit 25mil but at least we will be sure.
i think that's very unreasonable expectations for an 18-yr old, especially one who is not a striker but a cam. sanchez had a brilliant season and he didn't get 15 goals. sneijder didn't get anywhere near 15 goals either when merda won the treble. personally if he scores a few goals and makes a 10 or more assists for the strikers and our cms i will be very very happy. we can't expect him to come here and rack up 15 goals and 15 assists like kaka used to do, at least not yet.
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Old 14-06-2011, 06:55   #82
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No matter how much he LOVES Milan, he's a professional footballer first of all. He'll obviously sign for Juventus or something if they offer him good money. Let's not fall into age-old fallacies of waiting for love.
Im still against splashing cash on serie-b talent. Rather Poli/Lazzari as substitutes.
Invest that much into the pastore deal.


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Old 14-06-2011, 06:57   #83
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i think that's very unreasonable expectations for an 18-yr old, especially one who is not a striker but a cam. sanchez had a brilliant season and he didn't get 15 goals. sneijder didn't get anywhere near 15 goals either when merda won the treble. personally if he scores a few goals and makes a 10 or more assists for the strikers and our cms i will be very very happy. we can't expect him to come here and rack up 15 goals and 15 assists like kaka used to do, at least not yet.
I did not mean in Milan , in the next year , against top flight teams. We should be a bit more choosy. Such names have come up every year and then they are nowhere to be seen. Give them time , let them mature.
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If we do wish to buy such talent , but them and get them to the academy. Initially the hype makes their price soar, let the dust settle , maybe a january transfer for such talent. Spending highly on good performances in lower leagues lands you with disappointment sometimes.


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Old 14-06-2011, 07:08   #84
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I did not mean in Milan , in the next year , against top flight teams. We should be a bit more choosy. Such names have come up every year and then they are nowhere to be seen. Give them time , let them mature.
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If we do wish to buy such talent , but them and get them to the academy. Initially the hype makes their price soar, let the dust settle , maybe a january transfer for such talent. Spending highly on good performances in lower leagues lands you with disappointment sometimes.
yeah i got that. the thing is we should be making these purchases much sooner (we could have bought poli 3 yrs ago for 50k for example, he could have possibly been a milan youth product playing for milan's first team right now, at a minuscule fraction of the cost), hamsik for 2.5m, ganso for .25m, jovetic and pastore we were amongts the first for them when they cost just 8m (we bought digao instead ffs), it's important to get these players early on, and ilicic last year, who would have been a beast in allegri's setup imo.


it's important to get these kind of players early, but this kid is a definite talent and where he's performed isn't that relevant, kpb came from a relegated portsmouth ffs, gattuso from the scottish league, pirlo from inter , it didn't stop them any. and these gambles can pay off big later on, with pato if anything we took a much bigger risk and even if he's injured most of the time it was still very worth it imo.
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Old 14-06-2011, 07:15   #85
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yeah i got that. the thing is we should be making these purchases much sooner (we could have bought poli 3 yrs ago for 50k for example, he could have possibly been a milan youth product playing for milan's first team right now, at a minuscule fraction of the cost), hamsik for 2.5m, ganso for .25m, jovetic and pastore we were amongts the first for them when they cost just 8m (we bought digao instead ffs), it's important to get these players early on, and ilicic last year, who would have been a beast in allegri's setup imo.


it's important to get these kind of players early, but this kid is a definite talent and where he's performed isn't that relevant, kpb came from a relegated portsmouth ffs, gattuso from the scottish league, pirlo from inter , it didn't stop them any. and these gambles can pay off big later on, with pato if anything we took a much bigger risk and even if he's injured most of the time it was still very worth it imo.
You speak as though we should have known how they were going to develop. That's completely unrealistic. You can't expect management to sign every kid that looks promising. Nobody knows how a player will develop.


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Old 14-06-2011, 07:17   #86
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You speak as though we should have known how they were going to develop. That's completely unrealistic. You can't expect management to sign every kid that looks promising. Nobody knows how a player will develop.
i'm not saying we should have bought all of them lol, but a lot of them were reccommended by braida, savicevic reccomended jovetic, i don't see why we couldn't have bought one or two instead of the shit players we were buying at the time.
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Old 14-06-2011, 07:23   #87
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Don't worry guys, I'm thinking of buying this Kid and giving him to Milan as a gift...



Don't underrate him because of the league he plays in, the kid has got the talent to succeed at Milan.



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Old 14-06-2011, 09:20   #88
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Old 14-06-2011, 11:04   #89
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yeah i got that. the thing is we should be making these purchases much sooner (we could have bought poli 3 yrs ago for 50k for example, he could have possibly been a milan youth product playing for milan's first team right now, at a minuscule fraction of the cost), hamsik for 2.5m, ganso for .25m, jovetic and pastore we were amongts the first for them when they cost just 8m (we bought digao instead ffs), it's important to get these players early on, and ilicic last year, who would have been a beast in allegri's setup imo.


it's important to get these kind of players early, but this kid is a definite talent and where he's performed isn't that relevant, kpb came from a relegated portsmouth ffs, gattuso from the scottish league, pirlo from inter , it didn't stop them any. and these gambles can pay off big later on, with pato if anything we took a much bigger risk and even if he's injured most of the time it was still very worth it imo.
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You speak as though we should have known how they were going to develop. That's completely unrealistic. You can't expect management to sign every kid that looks promising. Nobody knows how a player will develop.
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KPB played in the epl , he saw the big teams.
Gattuso played amongst beasts.
Pirlo played in top flight.

Dude , lets buy some nice ass sperm next time

Thing is , we need to be sure. Teams waste a lot of cash , we already have a shortage , Ill support Alexandere Pato, nobody knows how a player will develop.


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Old 14-06-2011, 11:34   #90
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yes there is an inherent risk involved, but even if we buy established players there's still a big risk involved, there's a lesser chance of them flopping, but also much bigger costs involved. spending 5m to get half of el shaarawy and leave him at genoa with the option to buy out the rest of his contract for 5m is a smart purchase, with minimal risk and cost involved.

anyway, if we wait for him to score 15 goals at 19 yrs of age from the am position rest assured that he will not be in our price range at all. there's no such thing as being sure in football, best you can do is take calculated risks and hope they pay off, the names i mentioned before were all gambles so to speak which paid off big. limiting yourself to safe purchases will only hold the club back in the long run, it will only yield average results unless you spend big or unless there are some unique circumstances like with ibra and binho and cassano.
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Old 15-06-2011, 13:59   #91
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Braida is having lunch with El Shaarawy's agent right now, so it is very likely that a deal will be made. And it will be a co-ownership deal, like the one we just made with Merkel.

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Yeah, and I want him to be with us for the next season, if it means he will play only 10 or 15 games the whole season. Only by staying with us he can gain a lot from Seedorf, Robinho, etc


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He will be a and he is Italian !

Finding Italian talent today is as rare as black man with clean official charge sheet...


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Braida is having lunch with El Shaarawy's agent right now, so it is very likely that a deal will be made. And it will be a co-ownership deal, like the one we just made with Merkel.

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Old 15-06-2011, 14:05   #95
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di marzio just said an agreement has been reached and he will move to us this summer
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Old 15-06-2011, 14:11   #96
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Gianluca Di Marzio, speaking on Sky Sport 24, found a real bomb in the market: the ownership of Alexander Merkel, in fact, part of the operation that would bring Stephan El Shaarawy to AC Milan. The agreement for the transfer of the Italian-Egyptian was found yesterday, a co-ownership set at around 6 / 7 million €. But the real news is this: Always according to the expert of transfers, the young striker will be immediately available to Massimiliano Allegri, aggregated with the Rossoneri for the 2011/12 season. In confirmation of this deal is the lunch this morning among the flora, the player's agent, and Ariedo Braida, the two should now reach Galliani in the League, where they could be moved as decisive steps to close the deal.
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Couldn't he just have no arab roots?


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Couldn't he just have no arab roots?
Yes because having an Arab company as our shirt sponsor and potential investor and having a potential Arab star doesn't represent an enormous growth opportunity....
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