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View Poll Results: Will Zlatan finally win the Champions League in 2012-2013?
Yes, the real one. 34 15.53%
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Old 19-11-2013, 23:17   #11321
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I think ibra is up there and dont find it as a blaspemy to say so regardless of what you think.

And to say sweden is an inferior team is blasphemy??? its a know fact ffs. Did you even watch the game. You think portugal 10 men without ronaldo would loose to sweden 10 men without ibra? Yeah right...
My point was its IRRELEVANT to the discussion whether not sweden sucks vs portugal when you try to compare ronaldo and ibra. Ronaldo had 57 goals excluding national team. Ibra had 36. With international games its 62 and 47 respectively. Did i mention ibras in a much shittir league?
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Old 19-11-2013, 23:19   #11322
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Ronaldo has everything Ibra does plus more. He was more flamboyant back in his Manchester days, but now hes more goal oriented. Anyway Ronaldo has much more variety than Messi.


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Old 19-11-2013, 23:21   #11323
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Before some of you pull the "he helps out the team in other ways but scoring" arguement out of your ass. Ibra had 18 assists and ronaldo 14. Ronaldo is pumping out nearly the same assists while have a shit ton more goals than ibra in virtually everything.

A CLASS ABOVE. Ive got no problem agreeing to the fact ibra is the 3rd best goal scorer but to say hes better or equal to ronaldo is absurd
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Old 19-11-2013, 23:22   #11324
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No shame in being third behind messi and cr... two of the best players ever.


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Old 19-11-2013, 23:27   #11325
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Ronaldo has everything Ibra does plus more. He was more flamboyant back in his Manchester days, but now hes more goal oriented. Anyway Ronaldo has much more variety than Messi.
No he doesent. I think ronaldo is a great player but that statement is just flat out wrong.
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Old 19-11-2013, 23:28   #11326
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And for any other nay-sayers who are stil adamant.

Ronaldo in la liga had 34 goals in 30 apps. That BREAKS the apps:goals ratio and is equal when you add in subs. Ibra had 33 apps and 30 goals,34 apps if you add in subs. Again,in a much shittier league.

Ok,think spainish teams are equal or worse than french teams? Lets check CL.

Ronaldo had 12 goals in 12 apps,basically scoring every ucl game. Ibra had 3 goals and 7 assists in 9 apps,impressive but falls short.
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Old 19-11-2013, 23:30   #11327
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No he doesent. I think ronaldo is a great player but that statement is just flat out wrong.
What does Zlatan have that Cristiano doesnt? Ronaldo is basically a fast Zlatan. Zlatans a great player, but come on.


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Old 19-11-2013, 23:32   #11328
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cr7 has also better in game stats than Real ronaldo?. does that mean he is better than him? ... NO!
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Old 19-11-2013, 23:34   #11329
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No he doesent. I think ronaldo is a great player but that statement is just flat out wrong.
Agreed. There are thing Ibra does on a football pitch, i believe no other player is capable of.


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Old 19-11-2013, 23:36   #11330
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cr7 has also better in game stats than Real ronaldo?. does that mean he is better than him? ... NO!
Yep,i was waiting for this arguement,when stats dont go your way,you use other methods to try and win the arguement.


Messi is the worlds best player and the best in football,ronaldo is a RIVAL to THE BEST PLAYER EVER. YES he shits on the brazilian ronaldo. Dont even bring that up. Its like saying maradona>messi
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Old 19-11-2013, 23:40   #11331
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Ibra is probably a better passer but Ronaldo is the superior player.
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Old 19-11-2013, 23:42   #11332
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What does Zlatan have that Cristiano doesnt? Ronaldo is basically a fast Zlatan. Zlatans a great player, but come on.
My comment wasent a dig at ronaldo just i dont agree with the statement at all.

Try to play ronaldo as a target man vs pepe and alves and c how it goes for starters. He gets pushed of the ball by lustig ffs.

Hes not nearly as creative as ibra as he lacks that vision. Doesent mean he cant make a great assist tho.

As perviously said by senatore, he is not unpredictable like zlatan.

I think they arent very similar tbh other than that both are great players. Everything dangerous from ronaldo comes with pace. While ibra strangely seem most dangerous when he gets to slow down play. As ibra isent fast (with the ball) his play have evolved around not relying on pace while in ronaldos game, pace is pretty much the corner stone.
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Old 19-11-2013, 23:44   #11333
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YES he shits on the brazilian ronaldo. i
you always need to remember that if it wasn't for Ronaldo Fenomeno, there would probably not have been this generation including CR. They all modeled their game on him.

but even as the biggest R9 fan in the world, I would say that CR might be better. he simply has more drive. for all his genius, Ronaldo never had that ambition and determination for a sustained period.


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Old 19-11-2013, 23:46   #11334
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you always need to remember that if it wasn't for Ronaldo Fenomeno, there would probably not have been this generation including CR. They all modeled their game on him.

but even as the biggest R9 fan in the world, I would say that CR might be better. he simply has more drive. for all his genius, Ronaldo never had that ambition and determination for a sustained period.
Luiz Ronaldo scored 8 goals in 7 games at the 2002 world cup, and was what, about 65 percent fit?

It's amazing what he achieved, despite the never ending list of injuries.


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Old 19-11-2013, 23:48   #11335
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Pre-injury was the best I ever seen but you have to take longevity and other accolades into account so it isn't blasphemous to say C. Ronaldo or Messi are better than him.
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Old 19-11-2013, 23:50   #11336
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Yep,i was waiting for this arguement,when stats dont go your way,you use other methods to try and win the arguement.


Messi is the worlds best player and the best in football,ronaldo is a RIVAL to THE BEST PLAYER EVER. YES he shits on the brazilian ronaldo. Dont even bring that up. Its like saying maradona>messi
Players like zidane, ronaldinho, figo etc etc doesn't have great stats, but still u should know how good they were and how they used to setup their teammates. So no it is just a fact.

and when did u started watching football?. u telling me cr7 > real ronaldo. gtfo. clearly all ur knowledge is only based on stats.
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Old 19-11-2013, 23:50   #11337
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outside of Real, Athletico, and Bartha, is La Liga really better than Ligue 1? they arent that different

Chrissy's goal ration was no where near as good in the EPL (to be fair he is being played more as a striker, but still, massive difference)


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Old 19-11-2013, 23:52   #11338
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Even if the league is better it doesent mean its harder or easier to score goals. Did not know alot about the french league before but even the lower teams have solid defenses. Its not like la liga where teams chase their first goal at all cost while beeing down 5-0..
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Old 19-11-2013, 23:54   #11339
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Players like zidane, ronaldinho, figo etc etc doesn't have great stats, but still u should know how good they were and how they used to setup their teammates. So no it is just a fact.

and when did u started watching football?. u telling me cr7 > real ronaldo. gtfo. clearly all ur knowledge is only based on stats.
I consider myself very logical and rational. I dont step into an arguement without valid ammunition which are STATS. Very few players can get away without ordinary stats thrown into the mix,like for example,pirlo. But when you compare a striker or winger against another striker or winger,stats rather than biased points of view are necessary. surely you see the massive flaw in your arguement?
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Old 19-11-2013, 23:55   #11340
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Even if the league is better it doesent mean its harder or easier to score goals. Did not know alot about the french league before but even the lower teams have solid defenses. Its not like la liga where teams chase their first goal at all cost while beeing down 5-0..
I made sure to breakdown stats to include league and cl but people still find excuses. Im done. It gets pointless argueing with people who make the ^ statements and points.
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