The Rumour Commode XXVI: March Fourth!

milanator · Jun 17, 2019

Hugh Janus said:
maybe because we signed Krunic already

Giampaolo started converting him into a regista, if we sell Biglia we need 2 registi anyway, so one that can also play mezz'ala would be handy.

Alo88 · Jun 17, 2019

Neo'82 said:
Yes, Maldini was reportedly the one that convinced management to stick with Gattuso until the seasons end. Giampaolo was presented to management by Maldini, the club is following Paolo's recommendation going forward.

In the end, the plan B direction of the club meant Leo was no longer required and the PSG job conveniently arrives and suits his style of working as SD.

Then it's Maldini who's more at fault than Leonardo given that Gattuso as a coach has a way bigger influence on how the team performs, no? So why didn't they sack Maldini and kept Leonardo? It doesn't make sense to me.

The only logical explanation is that Leonardo planned his outgoing way before the season ended as PSG approached him way before. The job didn't just conveniently occur when Leo was sacked. There was no sack at all. It was him who decided that PSG suits his style of working (and salary) more than Elliotts Milan. So, as I see it, he accepted the job and by the end of the season he greeted all good bye.

MilanFan89 · Jun 17, 2019

Rumpelstiltskin said:
Which midfielder would you like Milan to sign?

Torreira I like, and de Paul

Alo88 · Jun 17, 2019

Samaldinho said:
From what I understand, the losses that Milan have incurred are from our transfer activity, not from operating losses.

One of the cornerstones of Elliott's legal argument is that they would classify transfer expenditures as investment from their end, as the new owners, which would be necessary in any business involving essentially flipping depreciated assets.

CL would have been crucial to changing the cash flow of the club, but not the owners, and they'd argue, "if the wages of the players and staff is being paid, transfer expenditures are external costs that are supplied by the ownership, so, if the owners leave, the club will continue go pay what it owes to players and staff. FFP is an artificial control on business owners and prevents them from creating improvements."

Itd be like telling real estate investors they can't fix houses they want to resell without the money from rent. I think Elliott has a very strong case.

Kaka92 · Jun 17, 2019

I think it's better to throw money in the river rather then spending it on Veretout, Pellegrini and Sensi. :fp:

Actually, one of Sensi and Veretout will be ok but just for bench. But I highly doubt it that they will be "just" backups.

CapitanoMaldini · Jun 17, 2019

Donato said:
Which Pellegrini is he referring to here? Luca or Lorenzo?

Lorenzo I believe, given that he's a mid and has a 30 mil release clause. Would love Luca.....but with the rumours to Rui....makes less sense

Neo'82 · Jun 17, 2019

Samaldinho said:
From what I understand, the losses that Milan have incurred are from our transfer activity, not from operating losses.

One of the cornerstones of Elliott's legal argument is that they would classify transfer expenditures as investment from their end, as the new owners, which would be necessary in any business involving essentially flipping depreciated assets.

CL would have been crucial to changing the cash flow of the club, but not the owners, and they'd argue, "if the wages of the players and staff is being paid, transfer expenditures are external costs that are supplied by the ownership, so, if the owners leave, the club will continue go pay what it owes to players and staff. FFP is an artificial control on business owners and prevents them from creating improvements."

Itd be like telling real estate investors they can't fix houses they want to resell without the money from rent. I think Elliott has a very strong case.

100%

No matter how competent the new owners happen to be the current FFP restrictions won't allow them proper investment in order to improve the current state of the club, in turn raising the revenue. A speculate in order to accumulate window should exist for new club owners.

It's all good and well capping spending in regards to revenues made by the club but new management shouldn't be constrained by past failings.

UEFA's answer: why can't you qualify for our elite club competition - it's the only way out.

Neo'82 · Jun 17, 2019

What position did Pellegrini play at Sassuolo? was it not LCM.

Rumpelstiltskin · Jun 17, 2019

MilanFan89 said:
Torreira I like, and de Paul

I think Torreira is another made up rumour. Because of the Giampaolo connection and his comments about England. I don't think Arsenal will let him leave for less that 50m.

De Paul is not a midfielder, he plays as a winger or as an attacking midfielder, we already have those in the squad.

The midfielders we've been linked are quite good imo. Veretout, Sensi etc. are not world class, but they've been doing well in Serie A and seem ready to move to a big club.

Also, with the exception of Veretout, all the others are under the age of 25 and it wouldn't be hard to sell them later, if they don't have a great season.

Donato · Jun 17, 2019

Pellegrini for 30m isn’t bad to be honest... good Serie A midfielder who would be a good fit for Giampaolo’s system.

Starting to realise all of our targets are players with Serie A experience.

- Mario Rui, Pellegrini, Sensi, Veretout, Manolas, Mancini, Anderson, Praet, Muriel, Torriera...
Probably a good thing, I’d like a little more quality in those names though but atm it doesn’t seem too realistic. Hopefully we get a surprise or two

MilanFan89 · Jun 17, 2019

Hmm Sensi, Veretout and Krunic and Rui are just decent. But I dont see we re making top 4 with them. You think they doing better then Rodriguez, Bakayoko, Calhanoglu and Kessie ?

Hugh Janus · Jun 17, 2019

Kaka92 said:
I think it's better to throw money in the river rather then spending it on Veretout, Pellegrini and Sensi.

Actually, one of Sensi and Veretout will be ok but just for bench. But I highly doubt it that they will be "just" backups.

Aww

Neo'82 · Jun 17, 2019

Alo88 said:
Then it's Maldini who's more at fault than Leonardo given that Gattuso as a coach has a way bigger influence on how the team performs, no? So why didn't they sack Maldini and kept Leonardo? It doesn't make sense to me.

The only logical explanation is that Leonardo planned his outgoing way before the season ended as PSG approached him way before. The job didn't just conveniently occur when Leo was sacked. There was no sack at all. It was him who decided that PSG suits his style of working (and salary) more than Elliotts Milan. So, as I see it, he accepted the job and by the end of the season he greeted all good bye.

The management essentially need Maldini as the face of their project - Paolo feels the trust as they are now following his recommendations in regards to coaching and staff.

Exactly, there's no way Leo left Milan without that option at PSG already lined up in principle. True, there was no sackings. It was all by mutual consent, even with Gattuso.

Kaka92 · Jun 17, 2019

Donato said:
Pellegrini for 30m isn’t bad to be honest...

I agree. It's not bad, it's terrible.

None of these guys (beside Torreira) are not even upgrade over our current midfielders. If they really can't find anything better, just save the money and play with the same team. There is no difference, except that we'll save money.

Some of them could be acceptable but as backup.

MilanFan89 · Jun 17, 2019

He looks like a 16 year old with a 40 year old face

Neo'82 · Jun 17, 2019

Francesco Calzona former deputy of Sarri could be Giampaolo's second at Milan[calcionapoli24.it]

MilanFan89 · Jun 17, 2019

• Jordan Veretout

2nd most chances created in Serie A for the last 2 seasons .. (After Pjanic)

Rumpelstiltskin · Jun 17, 2019

MilanFan89 said:
• Jordan Veretout

2nd most chances created in Serie A for the last 2 seasons .. (After Pjanic)

Then why are you against signing him?

mrki · Jun 17, 2019

Veretout is underrated in here.

No to sale of Cutro. Great rotation cf! One of the best 25-30min cf's in serie a!

DeNiro · Jun 17, 2019

Veretout is linked with us, arsenal, napoli, psg and roma...honestly I've never seen him play, but surely he's not as shit as people here make out

MilanFan89 · Jun 17, 2019

Rumpelstiltskin said:
Then why are you against signing him?

Im not against him, If you pair him with Torreira for example and Paqueta, is something else then pair him with Krunic and Sensi

rossonero1 · Jun 17, 2019

I'm probably in the minority here (or only one lol) but I'll take a an attacking LB in Mario Rui who played under Sarri over the turtle that looks lost with the ball at his feet in RR.

Neo'82 · Jun 17, 2019

Paqueta

Veretout Pellegrini

Torreira

Interesting looking diamond on paper.

rossonero1 · Jun 17, 2019

milanator said:
I wonder why the Praet rumors have died down?

His agent just said yesterday that Milan is a big club. Could just be under wraps.

rossonero1 · Jun 17, 2019

DeNiro said:
Veretout is linked with us, arsenal, napoli, psg and roma...honestly I've never seen him play, but surely he's not as shit as people here make out

Unless Milan is signing Messi, Mbappe or Neymar most people in here think most players linked to this club are shit.

Kaka92 · Jun 17, 2019

He's not shit but not upgrade either.

What's the point of spending money on someone who will not upgrade you?

Raz · Jun 17, 2019

MilanFan89 said:
He looks like a 16 year old with a 40 year old face

Imagine this guy and another midget Sensi in the starting XI...
A fucking disgrace

rossonero1 · Jun 17, 2019

Kaka92 said:
He's not shit but not upgrade either.

What's the point of spending money on someone who will not upgrade you?

I'm just curious since you moan at every Milan link, but if you were building a team from scratch what is your ideal starting XI? Let's try keeping it under a couple hundred million. :lol:

Neo'82 · Jun 17, 2019

Agent Giuffredi: "We just had a general chat. Veretout? We did not speak about specifics. The meeting with Milan? Great as always"@AntoVitiello

papaberlu · Jun 17, 2019

Don't like the attacking names linked with Milan and can't see Silva and Piatek working well

The midfield links are fine

I don't mind having an attacking LB option like Rui but there's already 3 LBs already on the team...

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