Sorry I’d have to disagree swagger
Woodley is a good fighter and may be a tough matchup for GSP, but to think he can wax GSP is easy is a bit misguided. GSP is incredibly well rounded and still constantly improving
1. Jake Shield is known as a wrestle-fuck, American BJJ wet blanket, one-trick pony. If Woodley was purely a wrestler at that time he should have no issue dealing with such a fighter no?
2. Woodley's last fights
Darren Till - who the fook is that
Demian Maia - BJJ one trick pony.
Stephen Thompson - how many dimensional is he?
Robbie Lawler - one dimensional
Kelvin Gastelum - how many times has this guy failed to make weight?
Dong Hyun Kim - above average fighter
Who’s Woodleys best win? Thompson? Lawlor?
Should we go further back?
Rory MacDonald - lost to a not as good GSP
Carlos Condit - ???
Josh Koscheck - 1 dimensional wet blanket
Jake Shields - 1 dimensional fighter who only wrestles...Woodley's strong suit
Jay Hieron -
Seems like Condit is Woodley's best win too...according to your logic
Why even compare resumes? I think GSP has the better one, hence why he is regarded as either the Goat or Nr2 after Fedor by many but for fighting right now it's not as important.
I think Woodley is a hard fight because he is a champ but GSP went in there with Bisping with no issue. Is Bisping a worse fighter than Woodley? Of course, that much is clear but he's also considerably heavier and GSP was able to take his hits. Do we think GSP can wrestle with Woodley? Yes and he has a better gas tank.
Anyway, I think George will try to go for triple belt, not sure if Dana wants to allow him that after he ducked his MW defense. Now ducking Whittaker - he undeniably did that imo and I don't blame him.
Is he gonna get his 2M? If he doesnt his dad will smack him around so much he will be forced to end his career.
I have to disagree. Woodley is a much harder fight than bisping by a long shot. bisping is pillow fisted and probably the easiest matchup for gsp in the middleweight top 7. I know hero's rockhold but rockhold has a hilariously glass jaw and totally disrespected bisping by putting his guard down . Bisping was on the decline already by the time gsp fought him anyway. Ofcourse gsp can wrestle Woodley but he won't be able to take him down. Woodley has by far the best take down defense percentage in ufc. Woodley paces himself much better under roofus. I would like to see this fight but Gsp said he is worries about his legacy which means he is scared of fighting tyron since he knows tyron can beat him decisively.
gastulem, Lawler, maia and wonderboy would all beat everyone gsp's beaten though. Wondeeboy may be one dimensional but he has an iron chin, elite striking and can light up anybody in the WW division. He destroyed Hendricks iirc.
wonderboy also beat Rory and Robert freaking Whittaker. Whittaker would absolutely rape anyone gsp has ever faced.
[..] would all beat everyone gsp's beaten though.
Hmmm all he's talking about are legacy fights
I don't really think you can just start listing names on Woodley's win list and just start saying they will beat anyone in GSP, at least you won't be effective in persuading anyone, but since you brought it up, let's get talk about it.
First of all, before we even get to the records, what exactly does this statement mean? Are you saying these fighters are technically more sound or simply that they have a better chance against people GSP have faced? If its only the ladder, everyone Mark Hunt has KOed before would probably give both GSP and Woodley trouble, why? Because they are heavyweights and without weight limits heavier person will always have an advantage.
Now:
Gastelum - most of his fights at MW, can barely make WW. Also lost to Neil Magny (world beater?).
Lawler - just lost to a small WW in RDA. His "big wins" that UFC hyped him since his "comebacks" - split 2 decision fights with Hendricks and had a good TKO of Rory. But also only split decisioned Condit. So yea, you could say Hendricks gave GSP hell and Lawler split a series with him, and also the win against Rory is a good win, but nothing in his record OR his skill set is remotely suggesting he can beat ANY of GSP's wins.
Maia - won't even talk about Usman and Colvington. Maia could never beat wrestlers: Jake Shield, Munoz, Weidman... And not to mention, GSP beat Shields, so your statement is simply not true.
Whittaker - he is a middle weight, why are we even talking about him. If you are going to credit Thompson beating him and for that reason list Thompson as a world beater, should we also examine Court McGee? Guy who's .500 in the UFC today.
All this information is available on Sherdog. I would be happy to hear your reasons as to why they would all beat everyone GSP has beaten.
Condit is gsp's best win right? maia did choke him out and maia wasn't even in his prime. Neither was Condit but he was closer to his actually peak level compared to maia at the time they fought. Maia was definitely past his prime when he fought Colby and usman. he is 41 for God sake. I am talking about Lawler at his absolute best would beat all of Gsp's opponents. infact he actually did beat Condit too. I know there were contrasting opinions about that bout but in terms of damage, Lawler clearly won. I always think damage should count for more points than pure output and octagon control. Lawler did control the octagon better anyway.
Lawler started losing only after Woodley flatlined him. Getting ko'd like that will crack your chin. He is not the same Lawler anymore. Rda toiled so hard to get past a broken,beaten and battered Lawler who was also injured in that fight. Nick Diaz beat Lawler when Lawler was raw. I highly doubt Diaz fodder would beat Lawler in his prime. BJ Penn sure isn't beating him either. I don't see anyone of gsp's wins beating prime Lawler.
You conveniently add a timeline of fighter being in their prime and only want to examine a certain time period.
So prime Lawler would have to beat prime Matt Hughes too right? You ever hear the stories out of the Militich camps what Hughes used to do to Lawler right?
GSP fought LEGENDS of his time. Before GSP, Matt Hughes was unbeatable, only BJ have beaten Matt Hughes in his PRIME. So no, Condit is not GSP's "best fight", that is ridiculous, according to your OWN argument
You also did not add anything concrete to counter my arguments, just more conjecture. Maia choked out Condit but Maia IN HIS PRIME also have no answer against wrestlers or ANYONE good enough at grappling to not engage him (Anderson). Are you going to ignore that? Hughes and Penn were both more well rounded fighters IN THEIR PRIME, and I would argue BJ is at least on par in terms of grappling.
Lawler, at his ABSOLUTE best, is a period when all of GSP's best wins are out of their prime, so what's the point of comparing? But even if we do, there is nobody on Lawler's win list during his ABSOLUTE BEST times that GSP cannot beat, barring a roided out Hendricks which I thought GSP lost to (still won a decision), but even Lawler's 2 fights with Hendricks were close. Also, GSP beat Condit DECISIVELY. If you are going to point out Hendricks as a point that Lawler can beat someone that GSP can't in your mind, then GSP beat someone decisively that Lawler had a close fight with. Nobody has to discuss volume vs. damage done when judging GSP vs. Condit...
You conveniently add a timeline of fighter being in their prime and only want to examine a certain time period.
So prime Lawler would have to beat prime Matt Hughes too right? You ever hear the stories out of the Militich camps what Hughes used to do to Lawler right?
GSP fought LEGENDS of his time. Before GSP, Matt Hughes was unbeatable, only BJ have beaten Matt Hughes in his PRIME. So no, Condit is not GSP's "best fight", that is ridiculous, according to your OWN argument
You also did not add anything concrete to counter my arguments, just more conjecture. Maia choked out Condit but Maia IN HIS PRIME also have no answer against wrestlers or ANYONE good enough at grappling to not engage him (Anderson). Are you going to ignore that? Hughes and Penn were both more well rounded fighters IN THEIR PRIME, and I would argue BJ is at least on par in terms of grappling.
Lawler, at his ABSOLUTE best, is a period when all of GSP's best wins are out of their prime, so what's the point of comparing? But even if we do, there is nobody on Lawler's win list during his ABSOLUTE BEST times that GSP cannot beat, barring a roided out Hendricks which I thought GSP lost to (still won a decision), but even Lawler's 2 fights with Hendricks were close. Also, GSP beat Condit DECISIVELY. If you are going to point out Hendricks as a point that Lawler can beat someone that GSP can't in your mind, then GSP beat someone decisively that Lawler had a close fight with. Nobody has to discuss volume vs. damage done when judging GSP vs. Condit...
how old was Lawler when Hughes did whatever he did to him. Hughes is so one dimensional.
Lawler at his best beats him comfortably by vicious ko.
Gsp is GOAT. In saying that Lawler poses serious issues for even a prime gsp at his WW peak level. Gsp probably wins. That's not my point. I just feel that Lawler at his best beats all of Gsp's opponents. Shields beat a pre prime pre peak fodder version that does not count and it was at MW. Shields lost to ellenvergrr by ko. Lawler butchered Jake's face. Gsp beat far too many undersized guys.
doesn't matter if he doesn't have his resume. All I know is that Woodley would clean gsp's chin out if they ever fight.
Shields beat a pre prime pre peak fodder version that does not count and it was at MW. Shields lost to ellenvergrr by ko. Lawler butchered Jake's face. Gsp beat far too many undersized guys.
Maybe. I am not sure. I agree though. GSP is GOAT for sure. There is no doubt about it but tyron is coming for him. For me I feel that Woodley at his best beats GSP cause he is just that good now. It's a shame we will never know though. Woodley reckons he wants to fight the winner of Whittaker vs gastulem btw. Should be interesting.
I actually really believe gastulem is the guy to dethrone Woodley.
What do you think about Douglas lima curu?
He is tremendous fighter and would comfortably be top 3/4 in ufc imo.
Khabib says he will leave UFC if they fire Zubaira
Have to say that’s a g move
bye khabib. was fun watching you fight.
Khabib is as real as it gets, actual ride or die type of person and I love it.
Conor talking all big about that gangster life...
But then a real motherfucker comes in and shuts him right the fuck up
khabib vs iaquinta 2 would be nice. real gangster fight provided al gets through lee.
lee vs khabib must happen. lee talked so much crap. he deserves an aaa whooping.
Tony vs khabib is the real championship fight.