The Rumour Commode XXI

Sorriso Sempre · Nov 1, 2017

Savo said:
always said it and what do we lack right now???? depth in the wide positions... bad sale and not for that much money either

f+m are trash selling him!!

milanator · Nov 1, 2017

Savo said:
Probably saying what everyone already knows about our failure so far this term.... The problem is that we bought 11 players.. all have a lot of potential and talent, but all we really needed were a few top choice signings...

We needed 1 top class striker, 1 wide player (2 after selling niang last minute), 1 top class midfielder, 1 side back, and 1 top class CB.... that's 5 players... 5... instead we go out and buy 11... individually I can't say they weren't all good players and good signings but we needed a few greats not a bunch of potentials. Kessie, Conti, and Silva were solid signings as far as the potential goes. But Biglia was overpriced and not worth it, Kalinic is a classy player but we all know Belotti is the one Milan needed to get... Borini has been a good workhorse and depth player but a signing that would have never been needed if we hadn't made consistently shit sales (i.e. - SES)... calhanoglu is a talented player but he cannot be called upon to carry the team the way kaka could.. calhanoglu would have been great in a team that is already solid and he could slot in, but in this team he will be hit or miss because the squad is not consistent enough for him to learn to synchronize with player movements well enough.

All is not doom and gloom though because we truly have some quality players here and we can make this squad work, but it is going to take time, especially after 11 signings... I just hope that we either land Conte or Ancelotti or we hold on to Montella until season's end.. I see no point in replacing Montella with another like-for-like coach just to switch things up... either get a top class coach or keep him.

Disagree, 1 midfielder wouldn't be enough. I agree that we bought too many players but buying a new midfield is a decision I support 100%, the need for more quality there was just too big.

Qaas · Nov 1, 2017

The number 1 reason why we are in this position is because we didn’t sign a LW. It is the reason why montella changed the formation, a formation he prepared for the whole summer + last season.

F&M fucked up big time

Sorriso Sempre · Nov 1, 2017

Qaas said:
The number 1 reason why we are in this position is because we didn’t sign a LW. It is the reason why montella changed the formation, a formation he prepared for the whole summer + last season.

F&M fucked up big time

going with 4-3-3 and spending 45m from bonucci to a top lw :thumbsup:

but again everyone in the summer was exctatic about bonucci

Hugh Janus · Nov 1, 2017

shouldve kept Ocampos

rossonero1 · Nov 1, 2017

I'm not so worried about the need to have a WC forward. I look at Immobile and Dzeko as examples of forwards who were pretty much written off and not wanted as transfer targets by anyone on this forum because they flopped a season or two ago. Our problem is midfield and wingers. I would guess Silva, Kalinic, Cutrone, etc. would do just fine and scoring many goals if we brought quality players in those departments. We may have brought in Biglia, Kessie, Calhanoglu, but that's not enough in the midfield that needed a massive overhaul even with our reserves. And we didn't even touch the issue with our wingers this summer. A majority of our transfer budget between January and the summer should go toward quality midfielders and wingers. Add Conte or an experienced manager and we should be fine going forward to the base that was already created this summer. We also still need to get rid of more deadwood like Abate, Antonelli, Montolivo, Mauri, Paletta, Gomez, Zapata.

Although if the opportunity arises next summer, I would try for Belotti or Aubameyang again. I think both of them are destined to leave their respected clubs next summer.

AC Kid · Nov 1, 2017

The difference between us and others is midfield.. it's pretty simple

leaf · Nov 1, 2017

Qaas said:
The number 1 reason why we are in this position is because we didn’t sign a LW. It is the reason why montella changed the formation, a formation he prepared for the whole summer + last season.

F&M fucked up big time

I'd say Conti's injury is the #1 reason why we are in such deep shit. We lack pace down the left for sure...but at least we had along the right. With Conti out, We've got Abate, who's still fast but pretty shit at everything other than marking his man....or Calabria who's pretty shit in general with a marginal upside offensively.

The second reason is Bonaventura's injury and then shit form. He's the only player who can do what he can on the left...but he's taking his own sweet time (it's understandable at his age tbh) in getting back into the groove.

Suso being a disaster at CAM is #3. The whole experiment of playing him behind the strikers failed for some inexplicable reason.

then of course Bontella's response to events 1-3 has been absurd.

Mexes5 · Nov 1, 2017

Hugh Janus said:
shouldve kept Ocampos

Curupira · Nov 1, 2017

rossonero1 said:
I'm not so worried about the need to have a WC forward. I look at Immobile and Dzeko as examples of forwards who were pretty much written off and not wanted as transfer targets by anyone on this forum because they flopped a season or two ago. Our problem is midfield and wingers. I would guess Silva, Kalinic, Cutrone, etc. would do just fine and scoring many goals if we brought quality players in those departments. We may have brought in Biglia, Kessie, Calhanoglu, but that's not enough in the midfield that needed a massive overhaul even with our reserves. And we didn't even touch the issue with our wingers this summer. A majority of our transfer budget between January and the summer should go toward quality midfielders and wingers. Add Conte or an experienced manager and we should be fine going forward to the base that was already created this summer. We also still need to get rid of more deadwood like Abate, Antonelli, Montolivo, Mauri, Paletta, Gomez, Zapata.

Although if the opportunity arises next summer, I would try for Belotti or Aubameyang again. I think both of them are destined to leave their respected clubs next summer.

This is quite harsh, these guys are hardly deadwoods and all play a role and add squad depth.

We are not doing badly because of the so-called deadwoods, rather our manager cannot figure out a system to get the best out of our starters.

Neo'82 · Nov 1, 2017

All the talk about options to replace Montella(short term) Can Mirabelli really be relied upon not to squander any more available mercato money in January? both are currently weak links.

We need a top coach for next season, we also need the club management on the same page.

Australiano1980 · Nov 1, 2017

Savo said:
Probably saying what everyone already knows about our failure so far this term.... The problem is that we bought 11 players.. all have a lot of potential and talent, but all we really needed were a few top choice signings...

We needed 1 top class striker, 1 wide player (2 after selling niang last minute), 1 top class midfielder, 1 side back, and 1 top class CB.... that's 5 players... 5... instead we go out and buy 11... individually I can't say they weren't all good players and good signings but we needed a few greats not a bunch of potentials. Kessie, Conti, and Silva were solid signings as far as the potential goes. But Biglia was overpriced and not worth it, Kalinic is a classy player but we all know Belotti is the one Milan needed to get... Borini has been a good workhorse and depth player but a signing that would have never been needed if we hadn't made consistently shit sales (i.e. - SES)... calhanoglu is a talented player but he cannot be called upon to carry the team the way kaka could.. calhanoglu would have been great in a team that is already solid and he could slot in, but in this team he will be hit or miss because the squad is not consistent enough for him to learn to synchronize with player movements well enough.

All is not doom and gloom though because we truly have some quality players here and we can make this squad work, but it is going to take time, especially after 11 signings... I just hope that we either land Conte or Ancelotti or we hold on to Montella until season's end.. I see no point in replacing Montella with another like-for-like coach just to switch things up... either get a top class coach or keep him.

donna
conti-musa-roma-ricrod
kessia-loca-hakan
suso-silva-bona

fixed our team from last season.. we should be ok like this..

then they add bonucci to play with 3 defenders and unfixed everything turning into worst.

when montella goes, dont know if i want fassone and mirabelli going along with him.

Alec · Nov 1, 2017

I'm still very happy with the work F&M have done so far but those manager links of Mazzari, Sousa and Gattuso would be awful.

rossonero1 · Nov 1, 2017

Australiano1980 said:
donna
conti-musa-roma-ricrod
kessia-loca-hakan
suso-silva-bona

fixed our team from last season.. we should be ok like this..

then they add bonucci to play with 3 defenders and unfixed everything turning into worst.

when montella goes, dont know if i want fassone and mirabelli going along with him.

That's an Europa League type team at best and that's if everything clicks. Locatelli is really pushed here to be the future, but let him grow without pressure. Who knows how he will turn out. He may end up being like Cristante. I don't think he is anywhere close to giving the keys to take over a midfield. Especially that one you mentioned. Bonaventura has shown you can't rely on him with his recent injury history. In a champions league type team with ambition he is a rotation player at best.

Neo'82 · Nov 1, 2017

Alec said:
I'm still very happy with the work F&M have done so far but those manager links of Mazzari, Sousa and Gattuso would be awful.

No hint of a contradiction

joyrider · Nov 1, 2017

Shouldve spent all the money on Fellaini

Fabio · Nov 1, 2017

Should've bought Ronaldo

Alec · Nov 1, 2017

Neo'82 said:
No hint of a contradiction

Work so far - the transfers made in summer. I'm happy with that.

Links with certain managers which isn't confirmed at this point so basically pure speculation. Not happy with but it hasn't happend or rather hasn't been confirmed yet.

So yeah, no contradiction there at all.

Sage · Nov 1, 2017

joyrider said:
Shouldve spent all the money on Fellaini

better than kessie & biglia

Asterix · Nov 1, 2017

Dokoa · Nov 1, 2017

Sage said:
not even depth, we don't have a single good lw

pre injuries bonaventura could have fulfilled the role, but ever since his constant injury problems it feels like his athleticism has dropped by 50%

Take Delofeu back in January and problem is solved

Sage · Nov 1, 2017

Dokoa said:
Take Delofeu back in January and problem is solved

he's getting game time at barca

rossonero1 · Nov 1, 2017

We all need to be Man Utd supporters this weekend and hope they put a beat down on Chelsea. We need to start getting the paperwork ready for Conte.

Batman · Nov 1, 2017

fuck conte

Neo'82 · Nov 1, 2017

Batman said:
fuck conte

Sorriso Sempre · Nov 1, 2017

Australiano1980 said:
donna
conti-musa-roma-ricrod
kessia-loca-hakan
suso-silva-bona

fixed our team from last season.. we should be ok like this..

then they add bonucci to play with 3 defenders and unfixed everything turning into worst.

when montella goes, dont know if i want fassone and mirabelli going along with him.

in this formation i d agree
but hakan and bona should be replaced by wc players in january or in summer.

Neo'82 · Nov 1, 2017

Montella:

"Maybe that stop did Bonucci well."

"We need positive results. I'm convinced we will bounce back if we keep working hard to win"

"I'm calm, I know the risks of this job but I have the support of the management. The club needs results and I do too"

#AEKACM