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Old 23-01-2018, 11:48   #461
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Talking about shooting....even bonaventura's sooting seems to have improved lately....


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Old 23-01-2018, 11:57   #462
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Joyrider with the shit posting
who was kante at 21 eh qaas? Pogbas a playmaker cant compare

Kessie> PL mids
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Old 23-01-2018, 13:59   #463
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He is far too technical on the ball compared to gattuso though?
He has a little more technique than Gattuso indeed, but Seedorf was superb technically. Seedorf had superb ball control, could take set pieces, shoot from distance, great range of passing and vision and played the most attacking role in our midfield 3 usually.

What Kessie has in common with Seedorf is that great ball control, and although he doesn't always show it, a good range of passing and passing technique. I don't think Kessie has the shooting tecnhique or set piece technique that Seedorf had or the vision.

So when I compared him to Gattuso, I mean't his role in the midfield. Gattuso was the one who stayed a little deeper and helped build play and would arrive late in the box when going forward, while Seedorf would be higher up trying to link midfield to attack, and I see Kessie being more suited to that Gattuso style role.



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Dont think so. Gattuso couldnt hit shit with shoot, his passing was bad apart from short passes etc. Rhino was better in defence. Hes closer to dorf but has a lot to prove.

Anyway hes 21 only, his potential is big. So far he has had some good games, some bad but u can see he s developing nicely.
Yea Kessie is better at shooting, but that is not hard compared to Gattuso who was very poor at shooting. Gattuso IMO was a very underrated passer and I haven't really seen Kessie be very much above or below Gattuso in that regard. I do agree that Gattuso was better defensively as Gattuso was very very good in that respect.
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Old 23-01-2018, 14:08   #464
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I feel like Kessie is a young Naingolan in the making


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Old 23-01-2018, 15:52   #465
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Pffff, I saw Rino pull this off when I was at San Siro






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Old 23-01-2018, 16:36   #466
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I feel like Kessie is a young Naingolan in the making


I actually think Kessie showed more technical prowess than Nainggolan did earlier on at Cagliari.


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Old 23-01-2018, 17:11   #467
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Gattuso gets shit about his passing because he played next to Pirlo and Seedorf. His passing was never bad, just not creative.
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Old 23-01-2018, 17:26   #468
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Gattuso was a very decent passer, I see little to pick in that department between him and Kessie.

Kessie is genuinely more physical and can wriggle through to shoot far easier than Rino ever could. Therefore he ends up being a far more offensive midfielder than Gattuso. Gattuso on the other hand did a great job nipping around opponents and winning balls. Kessie is not that kinda player.

Basically they are rather different. I see Kessie more as a more modern version of Essien.


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Old 23-01-2018, 17:31   #469
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Dont think so. Gattuso couldnt hit shit with shoot, his passing was bad apart from short passes etc. Rhino was better in defence. Hes closer to dorf but has a lot to prove.

Anyway hes 21 only, his potential is big. So far he has had some good games, some bad but u can see he s developing nicely.
I remember some good passes from Gattuso, but more like intelligent ones than technically complex.
We don´t know how Gattuso would have developed in a classic DM spot though, he was´t bad when he played central towards the end of his career.

The good thing with Kessie is that he is still kind of useful when he isn´t in his best form.
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Old 28-01-2018, 20:42   #470
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Has matured a lot under Rino


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Old 29-01-2018, 14:32   #471
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Old 30-01-2018, 16:28   #472
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I love how powerful he looks on the ball, but a lot of his moves: running, stopping, shielding put a lot of stress on the knees (most of his steps fall flat footed which makes the knees take a lot of the impact) and he doesn't really know how to fall (he takes more contact than he should); add that he's a pretty stocky dude and the playing time he's getting / all the running he's doing and it can't be healthy in the long run

He's still young so it probably won't affect him for a while, but I feel like he should consider protecting himself more
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Old 30-01-2018, 18:47   #473
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I love how powerful he looks on the ball, but a lot of his moves: running, stopping, shielding put a lot of stress on the knees (most of his steps fall flat footed which makes the knees take a lot of the impact) and he doesn't really know how to fall (he takes more contact than he should); add that he's a pretty stocky dude and the playing time he's getting / all the running he's doing and it can't be healthy in the long run

He's still young so it probably won't affect him for a while, but I feel like he should consider protecting himself more
Gattuso will fix that, he pretty much did the same with Dybala


I think his decision making needs to improve, there was a point in the game where he went on a nice run from the half but if he wouldve just one touch pass it forward Hakan wouldve been behind the defense.


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Old 01-02-2018, 10:19   #474
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Old 01-02-2018, 11:09   #475
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did this guy come with a charger? is he a robot? he needs a rest ffs


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Old 01-02-2018, 15:23   #476
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He has a little more technique than Gattuso indeed, but Seedorf was superb technically. Seedorf had superb ball control, could take set pieces, shoot from distance, great range of passing and vision and played the most attacking role in our midfield 3 usually.

What Kessie has in common with Seedorf is that great ball control, and although he doesn't always show it, a good range of passing and passing technique. I don't think Kessie has the shooting tecnhique or set piece technique that Seedorf had or the vision.

So when I compared him to Gattuso, I mean't his role in the midfield. Gattuso was the one who stayed a little deeper and helped build play and would arrive late in the box when going forward, while Seedorf would be higher up trying to link midfield to attack, and I see Kessie being more suited to that Gattuso style role.





Yea Kessie is better at shooting, but that is not hard compared to Gattuso who was very poor at shooting. Gattuso IMO was a very underrated passer and I haven't really seen Kessie be very much above or below Gattuso in that regard. I do agree that Gattuso was better defensively as Gattuso was very very good in that respect.
Great analyisis

And yes Gattuso was a very underrated passer but in that team that is only going to happen. I also think he was very smart, he was always seemingly in the right positions and that is why he got so many good shooting attempts to gloriously fail at

In my opinion his intelligence and passion served his game greatly but when he got into those shooting positions that same passion caused him to over-expose his already limited shooting technique...(did beat Buffon that time though )
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Old 01-02-2018, 15:49   #477
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Dis is probably why Kessie cut his hair.


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Old 02-02-2018, 23:10   #478
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Old 04-02-2018, 12:55   #479
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On being the most used player in the league:

"I'm a bit tires, but not too much, I still feel good and have a lot more to give. I missed two games, but they weren't important. I used the opportunity to rest. If those were important games I'd be a bit angry."

On the two goals against Cagliari:

"I was very happy, I didn't score for many months. The goals arrived at the right moment and now I have to continue like this. I want to score 10 goals, that might seem like too much, but with good work I can achieve it."

On Kalinic (he assisted both goals):

"I get along very well with Nikola, just like with the rest of the team."

On his physical condition throughout the season:

"I started good, but then fell off a bit. That's normal though, now I have to continue to improve my condition."

On the next away games:

"I only think about Udinese right now. They are a good team and are close to us in the standings, we need to win to keep them distant."

Serie A or Europa League, what are you focusing on?:

"We don't have a specific goal, we still play in three competitions; League, Coppa Italia and Europa League."

On Gattuso's advices:

"He helps me a lot. He always tells me to works more and before the games he gives me some advices. But he doesn't like it when I walk on the pitch in training. When Gattuso says that I'm better than him I don't really think it's true. He was a big champion that has won it all, I on the other hand have won nothing and am still young. I still need to work a lot, Gattuso was way better than me."
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Old 25-02-2018, 21:53   #480
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