The Rumour Commode XXXIX: A Cardinal Sin

[Hugh Janus]

Btw Chilean fans in the tweet making fun with our offer.

Bunch of fakes if you ask me.

Although you're wrong, they're making fun of our offer.

 

[VultureSheva]

Lorient signed Faivre, why we didn’t go for him again?

 

[Kojak]

Lorient signed Faivre, why we didn’t go for him again?

He's currently out of favour

 

[A Wild Homosexual]

50mil isn't that bad, and I think the jury are still out on those mercatos. How he has to get final fucking approval from some sleazebag in New York on a 20m transfer after building a Scudetto team with lint and coupons is pissing me off.

I think after CDK we can say that Maldini has the last say.
Unfortunately CDK didnt explode as they expected.

 

[Alo88]

Nah - I think Gerry finessed him with some grand promise of come next year we will be able to spend enough to compete the way you want.
He is now seeing that probably isnt happening. It will be really interesting to see how he continues to answer questions as the media pressure continues to increase.

"We gave ourself a direction that ephasizes sustainability. We won't change from that. The team is competitive as it is. Pioli? He has our full trust."

Easy.

Well at least they are pathetic enough to beg a player who clearly doesn't want to join them... well, to join them This has some Galliani who went knocking on Destros doors vibes.

 

[Qaas]

Zaniolo endorsement ring different when it’s coming from my boy qaas

Hopefully you guys will one day see the big picture

 

[Curupira]

Lorient signed Faivre, why we didn’t go for him again?

How did he do at Lyon? Isn't Lorient a smaller club than Lyon?

 

[Curupira]

Hopefully you guys will one day see the big picture

Much easier to see the bigger picture when you leave out cringe words like "alpha" to describe someone with stat line like Zaniolo

 

[Kojak]

Good luck with that...they're currently in the relegation zone!

What a sickening thought that a soon to be relegated team in the EPL can afford to drop 30m in Jan yet the current Scudetto holders don't have a penny to spend

 

[Curupira]

0.65 post shot xG. Average goalkeeper would have saved this shot 35% of the time. Tata conceded 15 goals and he should have conceded 12.5. He’s underperforming his post shot xg by 17%. So for each shot he’s 17% more likely to concede than an average goalkeeper. For that specific shot, instead of conceding it 65% of the time, Tata would concede it 76% of the time (0.65 * 1.17).

For the rest:

Maignan 22/23: 63%
Maignan 21/22: 51%
Sportiello 22/23: 73%


Obviously this is very very crude, especially since I’m only using data from a single season. That’s why it’s not useful before when I said you need multiple seasons, goalkeepers typically don’t have a lot of key actions per game. But that’s basically the math that they use to figure out which goalkeeper is better at shot stopping.

Were you able to find Tata's previous stats with Lyon? Or Mirante with Roma?

Or are those completely cost-based signings made with the assumption that Big Mike is young and won't be hurt much.

 

[Nevermore]

5m is good enough
50% chance he is serie B level

 

[VultureSheva]

How did he do at Lyon? Isn't Lorient a smaller club than Lyon?

Bad, but there is no budget, we have to look for players available on loan, and he was.

 

[Curupira]

Good luck with that...they're currently in the relegation zone!

What a sickening thought that a soon to be relegated team in the EPL can afford to drop 30m in Jan yet the current Scudetto holders don't have a penny to spend

This came up during the SL debate and the EPL dick riders all came out of woodwork and said "if you don't like it go support Citeh" unironically.

I won't mention the fucker's name

 

[Qaas]

That thing is eating me inside.
We were always saying if Maldini signed then Milan is safe.
I think it was always about his own salary & was never about Milan because at the end we were given probably less than before.

I have been saying, but no one seemed to listen. Finally you guys are waking up

 

[Curupira]

Bad, but there is no budget, we have to look for players available on loan, and he was.

I think with this level of players at this price point (10m), the whole attraction is that they are still unproven.

I doubt that we are looking to go to them once they are already "found out" at a different club, though I do agree with you, it's slim pickings when it comes to the players available on loan.

 

[Curupira]

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I have been saying, but no one seemed to listen. Finally you guys are waking up

I've been with you this whole time Qaas.

maldino negotiates for himself, even though in Milan fans' fantasy that he is doing it for us.

No way he's walking away from a nice paying job with a team that's on an upward trend (though this may change) just bc owner laid out the financial realities.

 

[Alo88]

50mil isn't that bad, and I think the jury are still out on those mercatos. How he has to get final fucking approval from some sleazebag in New York on a 20m transfer after building a Scudetto team with lint and coupons is pissing me off.

It could all be media fabrication. Wouldn't be surprised if lots of fabricated rumors are leaked to get the other side of the negotiation table moving. Roma needs to sell, but doesn't want to accept a lowball offer like loan + 20M offer. That wouldn't free the resources to go on Ziyech who - as we now - can't go out on loan because Chelsea already used up their 8-loan-slots per season. On the other hand Milan can't spend this january mercato neither, a loan is the only way, and to ask >30M for a player who wants out and only has 18 months in his contract and more injuries than career goals is ridicolous anyway. If you think that it needs Gerry to tell Maldini that that's a bad deal then good night.

Then again, I thought CDK on >30M is a bad deal I'd walk straight away but Maldini insisted like a possessed mad man. So who knows, maybe those rumors have some legs. But in that case I'd rather side with Gerry.

My guess still is that both sides are acting rigid and leaking rumors hoping the other side would move away from its requests. In the end I think a transfer with part cash, part player is the most realistic outcome. At least this isn't going to drag like the CDK negotiations. In four days, when the mercato closes, we'll know the truth, for the better or the worse.

 

[Qaas]

Much easier to see the bigger picture when you leave out cringe words like "alpha" to describe someone with stat line like Zaniolo

But have you seen his physique. It screams alpha

 

[Curupira]

50mil isn't that bad, and I think the jury are still out on those mercatos. How he has to get final fucking approval from some sleazebag in New York on a 20m transfer after building a Scudetto team with lint and coupons is pissing me off.

@General

 

[Alo88]

Good luck with that...they're currently in the relegation zone!

What a sickening thought that a soon to be relegated team in the EPL can afford to drop 30m in Jan yet the current Scudetto holders don't have a penny to spend

One should wonder why a player with Zaniolos medical background and injury history still is worth >30M. It's a gamble I think Gerry is rightfully very hesitant to take (if that narrative is to be believed).

 

[VultureSheva]

Schira: Paolo #Maldini and Ricky #Massara will have to work on their imagination also in this session of #calciomercato . #RedBird has only authorized loan grafts with the right of redemption (no obligations). A small treasure ( € 2.8M) for #ACMilan can arrive from the departure of #Bakayoko

 

[Curupira]

Schira: Paolo #Maldini and Ricky #Massara will have to work on their imagination also in this session of #calciomercato . #RedBird has only authorized loan grafts with the right of redemption (no obligations). A small treasure ( € 2.8M) for #ACMilan can arrive from the departure of #Bakayoko

 

[Alo88]

And before someone is accusing me of taking too much of my copium: I thought CDK for >30M is a stupid dangerous deal too, people laughed at me and said I'm coping with us being broke. Since then CDK has done nothing (not to my surprise) to warrant that money and our mercato since then is blocked because we actually have almost no maneuverability left.

 

[patosheva]

Good luck with that...they're currently in the relegation zone!

What a sickening thought that a soon to be relegated team in the EPL can afford to drop 30m in Jan yet the current Scudetto holders don't have a penny to spend

say thanks to redshit and gerrycunt

 

[Qaas]

I've been with you this whole time Qaas.

maldino negotiates for himself, even though in Milan fans' fantasy that he is doing it for us.

No way he's walking away from a nice paying job with a team that's on an upward trend (though this may change) just bc owner laid out the financial realities.

Exactly, he can trick #daPlan but never us
Looking back we were really celebrating for no reason. We thought him signing would guarantee big spendings

Edit:
Curva sud were right to boo him that one time.. I SAID WHAT I SAID

 

[Kmoney]

Not enough
Only 5 players come to mind: Kalulu, Saelemaekers, Vranckx, Adli and Thiaw
3 of them just in their first season
2 are already pretty decent

Benfica and others who do this kind of business buy bunch of players like that every year

There are so many other we bought for our primavera though. Can’t remember the names because none of them became good lol

Lazetic, Chaka, Kerkez, few goalies, that Irish CB, new Pogba, croation CB, Djaolo are few more examples

I agree we can do better but we’ve definitely made some more investments here compared to the past

 

[Pigeon]

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I have been saying, but no one seemed to listen. Finally you guys are waking up

tbf patosheva was on their asses since last summer. he saw the big picture

 

[Kmoney]

I really doubt we could get more than 10mil for CDK.


I also doubt we could get 15mil for Messias & Sale.
Messias for free & sale probably 2-3mil & am not even joking.
Sale better to keep & tried as RB.

If CDK is this bad and we ship him in the summer I’m sure we could get 25m for him

I agree though if he sucks for another season then his value will plummet

 

[Qaas]

tbf patosheva was on their asses since last summer. he saw the big picture

On redshit though.
I was eyeing the fan favorite from the sidelines all summer

 

[VultureSheva]

There are so many other we bought for our primavera though. Can’t remember the names because none of them became good lol

Lazetic, Chaka, Kerkez, few goalies, that Irish CB, new Pogba, croation CB, Djaolo are few more examples

I agree we can do better but we’ve definitely made some more investments here compared to the past

Kerkez is balling in Eredivisie. Already played over 30 games with AZ. Only 19 years old. Blame Pioli because he will never take a Primavera player to the first team.