Final: Portugal 0-0 France (1-0 After E.T.) - 10 July 2016 21:00 CET

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After tomorrow night you'll have to squeeze in PP :proud:

:fp: PP has done nothing .. Forget GOAT, he isn't even the best in his squad. Griezmann on the other hand is a champ :o
 

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Zizou v Platini is pretty even tbh.. You could easily argue for either one

Personally I rate Platini higher for these reasons:

1.) More complete as a footballer (better passer and prolific goal scorer)
2.) Higher and more consistent peak
3.) Put France on the footballing map with his Euro 84 performance and helped them qualify to a world cup after 12 years (and did well in each world cup)
 

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runs circles around half the guys ya pick. footballs first rockstar.
 

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players i've seen play



1. R9
2. Messi/Cr9
3. Zidane/Ronaldinho
4. Maldini/Sammer/Baresi
5. Henry/Bergkamp
6. Beckham/Seedorf
7. Kaka/Raul
8. Batistuta
9. Rivaldo
10. Baggio



Learn from this or fight me !!




some gems i'm probably forgetting or just players i never liked

Excellent list :thumbsup:
the kids who haven't seen R9 playing will never know why he was called The Phenomenon

Authentic, Classy Top 10 List/Child of the 90s List

Those who disagree are young fools or Drucurl.

1. Paolo Maldini
2. Zinedine Zidane
3. Lionel Messi
4. Ronaldo
5. Alessandro Nesta
6. Francesco Totti
7. Zlatan Ibrahimovic
8. Cristiano Ronaldo
9. Lothar Matthaus
10. Roberto Baggio

Just missed: Andrea Pirlo, Gabriel Batistuta, Andriy Shevchenko

Two things.

1) I'd like to bury the hatchet with you. Ideally I'd like to be friends with all Milanistas. We've both aired our views on each other and traded not-so-subtle barbs at each other ad nauseum. We're getting old now and I'd like to turn a new leaf. It's better than the petty back and forth which I also hold myself responsible for and will surely end in me telling you off and getting banned for it. #OliveLeafBranch

2) Your list is decent….but I get the feeling that you don't weight technique very heavily. Player for player, I cannot see anything ZZ has over Messi….Also Maldini and Nesta at their zenith would get destroyed by any attacker on that list


My list:

Valerio Fiori
Dimitrios Eleftheropolous
Zeljko Kalac
Michael Agazzi
Marco Amelia
Emerson
Flavio Roma
Johann Vogel
Marcio Amoroso
Dario Simic
100% scoring record for Milan = GOAT
Laursen was worse for us than Simic…Also Guly
Vogel was quite good also like wtf breh :conf:
My final definitive list (subject to change)

1a. Maradona
1b. Messi
3. Pele
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4. Di Stefano
5. Cruyff
6. Beckenbauer

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7. Ronaldo
8. Platini
9. Garrincha
10. Baresi

Juuust missing out: Puskas, Eusebio, Muller, van Basten, Maldini, Zidane, Fat Ronaldo
(only) One Massaro pls :o

Ok this top 10 format is stupid and archaic and makes me think too much, so I'm going to change it to a tier list

Definitive Goat Tier List

Mountain Tier: Maradona, Messi, Pele
Hill Tier: Cruyff, Beckenbauer, Di Stefano, Ronaldo
Cliff Tier: Puskas, Baresi, Eusebio, Muller, van Basten, Maldini, Zidane, Fat Ronaldo, Best, Ronaldinho, Rivera, Yashin, Zoff, Buffon, Charlton, Gullit
Valley Tier: Pirlo, Xavi, Nesta, Henry, Figo, Rijkaard, Baggio, Matthaus, Neuer, Romario, Didi, Zico, Carlos Alberto, Varela, Scirea, Gentile, Laudrup, Kaka, Shevchenko, Rummenigge, Matthews, Kempes, Kubala, Moore, Dalgish, Koscis, Jairzinho, Tostao, Socrates, Sammer, Facchetti, Suarez (Spain), Totti
:star::star::star::star::star:
R9 on the Hill tier and I'll stamp it with my PE stamp :cool:
 

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Prime adriano was almost as good as him. But hw ruined his career.

nope. Not even close. Adriano was stronger, better in the air and a better free kick taker.
R9 was MUCH faster, better shooter, both footed, better playmaker, dribbler, more intelligent..etc.
 

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PES 06 legend Adriano :cool:

Adriano >>>>>>>>>>> Zlatan :o
 

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ALL NEW FIRST TIME PUBLISHED, ORIGINAL 'MASSARO94' LIST

1. Vlaar
2. Pogba
3. Bale
4. Daniele Massaro
5. Weigl
6. Neuer
7. Socrates
8. Maradona
9. Ronaldo
10. Lionel Messi
 

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1) I'd like to bury the hatchet with you. Ideally I'd like to be friends with all Milanistas. We've both aired our views on each other and traded not-so-subtle barbs at each other ad nauseum. We're getting old now and I'd like to turn a new leaf. It's better than the petty back and forth which I also hold myself responsible for and will surely end

roud: Admirably emotional, but I find most of your opinions shit man. Not to mention the racism, paranoia and passive aggression. It's very difficult to agree with such posters. And much easier to make fun of them. I choose that route :o

As a moderator, I've treated you with kid gloves due to the kick I get out of reading your posts and will continue to do so roud: So don't worry about getting banned by me.
 

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oh well....I tried
 

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nope. Not even close. Adriano was stronger, better in the air and a better free kick taker.
R9 was MUCH faster, better shooter, both footed, better playmaker, dribbler, more intelligent..etc.

I agree i am not saying no, thats why i said almost lol. Adriano toyed with maldini :eek: and even nesta in his prime. Although maldini was probably past his peak at that point.
 

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Necro's italian fetish lineup;

...........del piero........
....totti.................baggio......
...pirlo........de rossi........gattuso...
...maldini.....bonnuchi......nesta.......tassoti...
..................bafoon..................
 

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Only you like del Piero, Swagger. No Azzurri fan really likes the overrated one.
 

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Necromancer's Best of Azzurri since 1994.

GK: Buffon
Defence: Costacurta, Nesta, Cannavaro, Maldini
Midfield: De Rossi, Pirlo, Albertini
Offense: Totti, Pippo/Toni, Baggio
 

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GK: Buffon
Defence: Costacurta, Nesta, Cannavaro, Maldini
Midfield: De Rossi, Pirlo, Albertini
Offense: Totti, Pippo/Toni, Baggio

Nope.

Need Vieri (probably for totti), Zambrotta(rb) and gattuso for albertini

Pirlo Gattuso is a must combo.

Pirlo, Baggio and totti might be too many cooks.. And Baggio over totti always and forever so drop totti
 

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Nope.

Need Vieri (probably for totti), Zambrotta(rb) and gattuso for albertini

Pirlo Gattuso is a must combo.

Pirlo, Baggio and totti might be too many cooks.. And Baggio over totti always and forever so drop totti

Zambrotta was the only one in that which I would agree without a debate.

Gattuso or De Rossi is the question. I remember a discussion I had here with someone long back about the relevance of Gattuso if DDR is there. Pirlo-Gattuso is the perfect pair, but somehow I feel Pirlo-DDR would've taken it to another level had DDR been older in 2006. I want Pirlo to move further forward and someone to stay back. De Rossi is perfect for that while Gattuso wouldnt be able to do that.

In the attack, I agree about the too many cooks point. Yeah, in the 3 there, I'd take off Totti as well but not for Vieri.. For Camoranesi :D Dynamic wing presence.

Vieri and Pippo/Toni both being there is obviously overkill.

Option 1: Totti behind Pippo/Toni and Baggio
Option 2: Camo wide, Pippo/Toni in the center and Baggio withdrawn.
 
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Lack of aggressive wing players as a rule in Italian teams over the years.
 

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the OG NT reject, Mauro Camoranesi :proud:

inb4somenerdtellsmeaboutsomeonefromthe1960s
 

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Don't agree about the gattuso point.. Pirlo gattuso de Rossi for me is much better than pirlo albertini and de Rossi, gattuso can cover much more for pirlo and zambrottta could have a license to be more attacking.

Don't think vieiri is overkill.. It would be like pippo Sheva. In any case if there is only one striker then it has to be Vieri, he was exceptional for azzurri

If you realllly want a winger in there.. Get donadoni in for totti.
 

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Toldo

Panucci Nesta Maldini Zambrotta

Gattuso De Rossi Fiore

Totti

Vieri Di Natale
 

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Actually if it includes 94 then Baresi should be there too.

Buffon
Zambrotta canna baresi nesta maldini

Gattuso pirlo De Rossi

Baggio Vieri

Coach: Conte (expert of 3-5-2/5-3-2)
 
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