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Old 21-04-2021, 09:13   #28941
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"Rest of Europe has 1 dream, to destroy the superiority of the EPL. ESL is basically that idea." - Arsene Wenger, on bein sports, 13th Feb 2021

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Go on Boris, feck 'em up!
It is not to destroy. It is to harness the EPL money by transferring them to the Super League.



The English teams are the 1st to back out because they have the most to lose due to their lucrative EPL money. Without the EPL teams the Super League is not attractive.
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Old 21-04-2021, 09:23   #28942
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The SL is collapsing in the worst possible way.
English clubs stabbed everyone in the back and killed any chance of reforming European competitions.

Plan A should have been pushing through with SL.
Plan B should have been forcing UEFA to reform CL and EL.

EPL fucked it all up.


p.s. The probability of top clubs fixing current flaws in SL format was a lot higher than UEFA fixing European football.

That's why I am pretty upset it all fell apart.


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Old 21-04-2021, 09:27   #28943
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A wallpaint showing Andrea Agnelli killing the football has popped up overnight behind Italian FA building in Rome.

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Old 21-04-2021, 09:49   #28944
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Old 21-04-2021, 09:51   #28945
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Well this was certainly a shock to the system.

Right now it feels like something broke and don't exactly go back together again. If this was only public negotiation it looks like a spectacular failure as of now.

What a ludicrous embarrassment, Agnelli with a full page interview today exclaiming the ESL as a blood pact
how future and legacy fans feel about being blood brothers with inter and juve??

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The problem is not only because we were badly run.
The current system is bad, look at the debts of all clubs. That is not ok to have billions of debts with revenue close to 0.
With current system, one year out of CL and you are fucked.
Let's see what happens in a few years, but if nothing changes, there will be bankruptcies and crisises.
Clubs are run badly, so they had a plan how to fix it on their own. Now what? Governments will help those clubs? Same fans who were against SL will cry that it's not fair

Would like to see how players and coaches would react when agent fees and salaries are capped
doubt salaries cap would be on 6-7 millions gross, rather 12-20.
and how many players get more?? how many would protest?? cant see many fans supporting messi protest because he cant get 125m/y from all agreements with club.


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Old 21-04-2021, 09:52   #28946
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The SL is collapsing in the worst possible way.
English clubs stabbed everyone in the back and killed any chance of reforming European competitions.

Plan A should have been pushing through with SL.
Plan B should have been forcing UEFA to reform CL and EL.

EPL fucked it all up.


p.s. The probability of top clubs fixing current flaws in SL format was a lot higher than UEFA fixing European football.

That's why I am pretty upset it all fell apart.
The big 6 in the EPL will get financially rewarded for returning home to UEFA.

Milan were only invited in to the ESL to make up the numbers and shall be punished accordingly.
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Old 21-04-2021, 09:57   #28947
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Getting fooled by Perez and Agnelli... oh, Ivan

What if we get top4 but they kick us out of CL?
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Old 21-04-2021, 10:01   #28948
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Gazzetta - The Super League flops: now Milan will have to deal with Uefa. And with Boban

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Old 21-04-2021, 10:02   #28949
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This was such a shit show from the start.

They clearly needed 15 teams to even have a hope of pulling this off. Bayern, PSG and Dortmund not signing up = this was dead before it even started. No representation from Germany or France.

But they went with it anyway. With "12 members signed up, and 3 more top clubs expected to join." How exactly were Bayern, PSG, Dortmund going to be persuaded? What was the plan, guys??? In particular how the fuck were Bayern and Dortmund going to be expected to be persuaded considering the 50+1 rule and obviously no German fans would sign up for this?

Without Germany or France it was always dead on arrival. But they just said "fuck it, we'll do it anyway!" Idiots.

Oh and also they clearly didn't expected even 25% as much backlash as this plan received... Especially in England. Caught totally off guard.

This has to be one of the BIGGEST fiascos in the history of sport and business.
think rich owners dont have much connections with the clubs they bought, with fans, etc - elliott, kronke, glaziers, etc.
they expected hype train rather than protests - just look on modern super heroes movies - 5 or more in one movie to gather all fans... lets make football super league
but personally i think english gov made the difference


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Old 21-04-2021, 10:06   #28950
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Gazzetta - The Super League flops: now Milan will have to deal with Uefa. And with Boban



Wonder what his friendship with Maldini is worth these days .

Jokes asides, this headline is total BS ofc
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Old 21-04-2021, 10:10   #28951
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Gazzetta - The Super League flops: now Milan will have to deal with Uefa. And with Boban

Yeah, Milan will have to deal with UEFA, while Man$itty will not.

Papers are milking this SL farce in every possible creative way.


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Old 21-04-2021, 10:15   #28952
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Next year when we beat Sparta Prague in CL, admit it or not you guys will enjoy it much more than you would beating Real Madrid in some fake SL.

That is what its all about. Wins based on histroy and success.


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Old 21-04-2021, 10:16   #28953
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What a ludicrous embarrassment, Agnelli with a full page interview today exclaiming the ESL as a blood pact
Unbelievable, he looks so stupid it's unbelievable. His position looks untenable to me, got destroyed by Ceferin and presidents of other Serie A clubs and then has made what are now clearly ridiculous statements about the Super League.

It's incredible what a bad job they did, allowing UEFA and pundits to completely control the narrative and not even able to get majority support from their own fans. One of the worst PR performances I've ever seen. They failed even to get people excited about the possible quality of matches, failed to get people seeing their point of view that it was necessary for some clubs to survive. Really amazingly bad.
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Old 21-04-2021, 10:17   #28954
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Agnelli: ?Super League can no longer progress?
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Andrea Agnelli told Reuters the Super League can no longer progress without the six English clubs.



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Old 21-04-2021, 10:19   #28955
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Andrea Agnelli told Reuters the Super League can no longer progress without the six English clubs.



Blood pact.
Ofc you Jube tool JP Morgan clearly said that they arent financing it without EPL teams


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Old 21-04-2021, 10:19   #28956
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It is not to destroy. It is to harness the EPL money by transferring them to the Super League.



The English teams are the 1st to back out because they have the most to lose due to their lucrative EPL money. Without the EPL teams the Super League is not attractive.
They are jealous... envious.

In the 90s Serie A was a 6/7 (more even) strong team league... that number went down all the way to just 1.

3/4 strong teams in Spain back in the day... just real and Barca now.

England? The opposite! From just liverpool to where they are now... 6/7 strong teams.


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Old 21-04-2021, 10:21   #28957
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UEFA and FIFA are corrupted money whores to their bones. So was ESL. That's the truth. One could pick a side, there were many good points made for both sides.

But stop pretending this whole fiasco was "the poor people vs. the rich bad entities". It's not. One corrupted money shit show won over the other because it did a better job at manipulating folks into believing their doing it for them.
i dont care about uefa/fifa neither about rich owners money problems.
im against idea of league were nobody else cant get in and out based on sports results - its not competition.

i didnt read anywhere how soccerLeague would made football better for anyone else than clubs in,
was reading about financial pyramid - but in that system majority interest would be in soccerLeague, majority of money there so money 'sharing' would be by buying other teams best players even faster because of close nature of soccerLeague.

and 10b to share with other/poor when there is no tv deal, sponsors deals, nobody knows how successful project would be is just hilarious - cant even believe anyone quoted crap like that...
also someone show me the system where rich shares the money with poor if they are not forced to do it by the law, sure some throw some leavings but it come from money they dont care much and pr.


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Old 21-04-2021, 10:21   #28958
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Was Agnelli sacrificing his daughter by making Ceferin her godfather all part of the plan?

What a looser this cunt is. in 48 hours he lost all the influence he had in European football.


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Old 21-04-2021, 10:33   #28959
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Next year when we beat Sparta Prague in CL, admit it or not you guys will enjoy it much more than you would beating Real Madrid in some fake SL.

That is what its all about. Wins based on histroy and success.
There won't be success and history for us in the long run, without the SL.
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Old 21-04-2021, 10:36   #28960
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Omg we almost let them americanize our sport


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