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Old 16-01-2021, 21:40   #9301
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I doubt Milan (Elliot) want Mandzukic, two old players in one position is not in our project, unless Pioli and Maldini really insist for his arrival.

projects adapts when circustances changes, i don't think they considered the chance of winning a title in this season but this might happen and a different strategy might be the best choice


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Old 16-01-2021, 21:41   #9302
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Look how quickly his market value plummeted on Transfermarkt since the transfer

From 45m then to 6m now:

https://www.transfermarkt.com/radja-.../spieler/41982
Man, Roma sold at peak value right there...
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Old 16-01-2021, 21:42   #9303
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The Hakimi situation doesn't seem to be as serious as people are saying:


La Repubblica claim Inter have agreed with Real Madrid to delay the first payment for Achraf Hakimi by three months.

The Nerazzurri signed the wing-back for €40m to be paid in a series of €10m instalments.

The first was expected in December, but reports in Spain pointed out the money had not been handed over on time.

However, La Repubblica newspaper published a copy of an agreement Real Madrid signed with Inter a few weeks ago, which allows them to delay the €10m payment from December 2020 to the end of March 2021.
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Old 16-01-2021, 21:44   #9304
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Things is slowly recovering, but in a high opex operation like football, having a good balance sheet is everything. The elemination of Merda from CL must be catastrophic to its balance sheet.
Are they?

I still don't see any fans in stadiums. Don't know what this means for tv- and sponsorship deals tbh. But I can't imagine how things could be slowly recovering right now with pandemic still in full swing if not even worse in many countries (England, Italy, Germany, Switzerland) than before.

If anything than clubs are still bleeding money and will continue to do so until this pandemic is under control and fans are allowed back to stadiums.
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Old 16-01-2021, 21:51   #9305
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The Hakimi situation doesn't seem to be as serious as people are saying:


La Repubblica claim Inter have agreed with Real Madrid to delay the first payment for Achraf Hakimi by three months.

The Nerazzurri signed the wing-back for ?40m to be paid in a series of ?10m instalments.

The first was expected in December, but reports in Spain pointed out the money had not been handed over on time.

However, La Repubblica newspaper published a copy of an agreement Real Madrid signed with Inter a few weeks ago, which allows them to delay the ?10m payment from December 2020 to the end of March 2021.
Payments seem like they're going to be piling up. They're just buying time which makes them desperate. They won't get a good offer to sell the club or sell 40%, so they'll keep squeezing as much as they can pushing the limits. Wheels might come off.
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Old 16-01-2021, 21:52   #9306
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Are they?

I still don't see any fans in stadiums. Don't know what this means for tv- and sponsorship deals tbh. But I can't imagine how things could be slowly recovering right now with pandemic still in full swing if not even worse in many countries (England, Italy, Germany, Switzerland) than before.

If anything than clubs are still bleeding money and will continue to do so until this pandemic is under control and fans are allowed back to stadiums.
From no football at all to games with no attendances
From no business operation to (at least) take aways from many restaurants.

Yeah its recovering, or so we say, adapting.

The key of survival in this kind of situation is low opex, low cost. Alhamdulillah, Milan heading towards that direction even before the pandemic.


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Old 16-01-2021, 21:54   #9307
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Payments seem like they're going to be piling up. They're just buying time which makes them desperate. They won't get a good offer, so they'll keep squeezing as much as they can pushing the limits. Wheels might come off.
This all reminds me very much of the Yonghong Li situation and Fassone buying time here and there.

Dammit, I want someone from inside to write a book and tell us the real story behind this. I still can't get my head around how Li could actually loose the club with zero return when he had Commissos offer in hand - and refused!
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Old 16-01-2021, 21:55   #9308
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The moves Suning made in the transfer window are really weird in retrospect if they knew the situation was so dire. They paid 40M for one player, they got veterans on high wages, they didn't even actively try to ship out bad contracts
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Hakimi will surely stay in Inter but their fanbase deserve to sweat a little after mocking our ownership saga.

What I don't understand is why Suning would make such an investment when they clearly don't have money or even enough time to reap any successes of their investment. Chinese restrictions aren't a surprise and the blocked tax discounts shouldn't be decisive. I must've missed something


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The moves Suning made in the transfer window are really weird in retrospect if they knew the situation was so dire. They paid 40M for one player, they got veterans on high wages, they didn't even actively try to ship out bad contracts
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Old 16-01-2021, 22:03   #9311
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Idk why people keep putting Kessie and Bennacer on wrong sides in their formations. Pioli swapped them for a reason. It's a big part of why we play so well when they're both on the pitch.


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Old 16-01-2021, 22:03   #9312
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From no football at all to games with no attendances

From no business operation to (at least) take aways from many restaurants.



Yeah its recovering, or so we say, adapting.



The key of survival in this kind of situation is low opex, low cost. Alhamdulillah, Milan heading towards that direction even before the pandemic.
Ah, so you were speaking about life and economics in general.

I thought you were speaking about football clubs only who, as I see it, are hardly recovering but more or less trying to survive until fans are back in the stadiums.

Where are you from? How's it going in your country? I'm from Switzerland. We are basically entering our 2nd lockdown from Monday onwards. However we had many tough restrictions before who forced many bars and restaurants, movie theaters and stores to close down as economically speaking operating with all those restrictions generated them far bigger losses than simply closing down.

Sure, some adapt, but the general feeling here is not of recovery but of trying to survive somehow and hoping to make it to the next month when things maybe look a little bit better.
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Dammit, I want someone from inside to write a book and tell us the real story behind this. I still can't get my head around how Li could actually loose the club with zero return when he had Commissos offer in hand - and refused!
I can't remember enough to have a valid opinion on this matter but I wouldn't exclude the possibility of everything being planned out from the beginning by all parties involved.


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Old 16-01-2021, 22:04   #9314
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This all reminds me very much of the Yonghong Li situation and Fassone buying time here and there.

Dammit, I want someone from inside to write a book and tell us the real story behind this. I still can't get my head around how Li could actually loose the club with zero return when he had Commissos offer in hand - and refused!
I'm still convinced it was a Berlusconi led money laundering scheme.
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Idk why people keep putting Kessie and Bennacer on wrong sides in their formations. Pioli swapped them for a reason. It's a big part of why we play so well when they're both on the pitch.
It frustrated me also but I felt like it would make me out to be pedantic for pointing it out, so thanks for doing it for me. It's been almost a year since they switched vs Lazio.
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Old 16-01-2021, 22:08   #9316
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I'm still convinced it was a Berlusconi led money laundering scheme.
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Old 16-01-2021, 22:09   #9317
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I can't remember enough to have a valid opinion on this matter but I wouldn't exclude the possibility of everything being planned out from the beginning by all parties involved.
That's a possibility, but then again you'd expect something like that not to be done in full daylight and with so many watching right at it.

Like this theory of Berlusconi who orchestrated all of this to wash dirty money. Without being an expert myself I'd say there must be better and more subtile ways than e spectacular overtaking by a Chinese entity with a spectacular spending spree on the mercato followed by a spectacular faulting, with Fassone and Mirabelli as the scapegoats.
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Old 16-01-2021, 22:09   #9318
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I doubt Milan (Elliot) want Mandzukic, two old players in one position is not in our project, unless Pioli and Maldini really insist for his arrival
Well, nobody will complain if Elliott is willing to spend serious money on young striker...

But since we know that's not happening, Mandzu is available and cheap and can be useful
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Old 16-01-2021, 22:12   #9319
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It frustrated me also but I felt like it would make me out to be pedantic for pointing it out, so thanks for doing it for me. It's been almost a year since they switched vs Lazio.
It needs to be recognized as a stroke of genius by Pioli.
If he didn't swap them our play would be much more static.
They'd have to pass to each other more and would be forced to carry the ball into the attacking 3rd by themselves a lot of the time.
But by swapping them they have much better passing lanes forwards and to the sides and they can stay back for defensive stability.


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Old 16-01-2021, 22:14   #9320
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Mamdzukic leadership and experience wise is a no brainer. The question mark is his match form. I guess that's why Maldini and Massara aren't over it already but carefully evaluating.

That said I'm fairly sure that if he comes, his match fitness isn't that bad that he couldn't give a fair amount of contribution for the remainder of the season. M&M aren't dumb.
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