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Brazil 5 45.45%
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Old 11-07-2014, 16:30   #21
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of course this is a systemic global problem w/ athletics. You see it in NBA. for ever Lebron/Durant you have michael Beasley, Rashard Mccants etc.

My bigger point is, Brazil since Ronaldo hit global fame, has basically turned it's FA over to sponsors and do not act in best interest of the players. Only in interest of getting paid.

Neymar's an exception and from what i can see the type of kid who's motivated to be best regardless. And really those who reach it are that way. To a degree Dinho and Ronaldo were too. They hit top and just stopped carrying (In ronaldo's case the injuries have a toll to point where you start considering 'ive done it all, and do i wanna risk not being able to walk as an old man?' so i don't really blame them)


MY issue goes even beyond pato and ganso. It goes to the 100s of kids who star in u20 competition and are sold to eastern europe or whereever to really not be heard of again. My point is there's no reason Brazil shouldn't be like Germany, but the infrastructure is not there. Perhaps this embarassment will force them to do what germany did 10-12 years ago

Especially the bold part. The WASTE of talent and ability is sad
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klose will be viewed as a legend in germany tho the same way say pippo is in italy but perhaps not beyond it (just picking random example)


as for your second point. I'm curious if that's down to era.

As we go further and UCL is such a global thing, i mean Cristiano will go down as an all time great with no international relevance.
As you rightly said...at MOST he will be a German legend (let's hope they remember him after Muller SLAUGHTERS his record ).

Ronaldo will always be a fantasy player that excited and entertained as well as performed. Ronaldo will be remembered for his iconic games (Manchester United, Beating Maldini, Shitting all over Nesta in the UEFA Cup, both world cup finals (the one he choked in AND the one he scored twice in)).

At the end of the day titles are important but a player's emotional connection with the fans reigns supreme. I'm not Italian but I'm hoping that they have more love for Maldini with his 0 World Cups and his heroics than for Materazzi or Grosso etc.


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Old 11-07-2014, 16:52   #22
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Especially the bold part. The WASTE of talent and ability is sad


As you rightly said...at MOST he will be a German legend (let's hope they remember him after Muller SLAUGHTERS his record ).

Ronaldo will always be a fantasy player that excited and entertained as well as performed. Ronaldo will be remembered for his iconic games (Manchester United, Beating Maldini, Shitting all over Nesta in the UEFA Cup, both world cup finals (the one he choked in AND the one he scored twice in)).

At the end of the day titles are important but a player's emotional connection with the fans reigns supreme. I'm not Italian but I'm hoping that they have more love for Maldini with his 0 World Cups and his heroics than for Materazzi or Grosso etc.
w/ regards to maldini, he's viewed among greatest defenders ever.

But i don't think he's viewed like beckenbaur globally which is fair. But in general, defenders do not get that 'love'. As for 2006, heck i almost forgot those two. Everyone will think to cannavaro, buffon, gattuso, pirlo for that team


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Old 12-07-2014, 02:19   #23
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Brazil need a change of paradigm in coaching. And for that to happen, the league need to be more open to foreign ideas. I would seriously consider a foreign coach for Seleção.

Just think about how many coaches Brazil exported lately... It's zero. Compare to Argentina with a lot less resources.

Also, foreign coaches here can't make simply cause no one accept change. There's a few coaches with modern ideas, but still not enough and Brazil is getting behind on that aspect.

Opening spot for non-Brazilian players from 3 to 5 was a good start. More need more.
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Old 12-07-2014, 03:05   #24
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all nike final

yet they play with brazuca
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Old 12-07-2014, 19:55   #25
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Old 12-07-2014, 20:38   #26
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Sooo... no fucks to be given for this?
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Old 12-07-2014, 21:00   #27
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Disappointing lineup by the Dutch. I had expected the likes of Depay to start.


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Old 12-07-2014, 21:02   #28
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Clearly outside the box.

Lul. Gave Silva a yellow because of it probably.
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Old 12-07-2014, 21:03   #29
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Yea Thiago Silva completely changes this defense.

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Old 12-07-2014, 21:04   #30
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Outside the box but clear red.

Lulz where is this unsophisticated ref from.
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Old 12-07-2014, 21:04   #31
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Old 12-07-2014, 21:04   #32
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Robben is a legend. First chance, burns silva

Shud have been red and no penalty though


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Old 12-07-2014, 21:04   #33
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Rules dont apply for Brazil

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Old 12-07-2014, 21:06   #34
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Would have been sweet if silva got a red
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Old 12-07-2014, 21:07   #35
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Good to not give red
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Old 12-07-2014, 21:09   #36
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Would have been sweet if silva got a red
Wtf exactly what i was thinking


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Old 12-07-2014, 21:09   #37
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World class referee
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Old 12-07-2014, 21:11   #38
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He was clearly making up for giving the penalty.
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Old 12-07-2014, 21:12   #39
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fucking disgrace to not give a red there. how can you have a ref thats scared of applying the rules to brazil in a football match?


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Old 12-07-2014, 21:12   #40
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Brazil , Brazil

This is what happens when you play football without brain. It works against Cameroon and Columbia but vs Netherlands and Germany you get eaten alive.
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