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Milan returns from Rome as the winner, but not without bad news. The results of the exams for the three players who closed the Olimpico match with aches, two tiles and a sigh of relief have arrived.

IBRAHIMOVIC - Starting with Zlatan Ibrahimovic. For the Swede it is a lesion of the left adductor longus muscle. He will be re-evaluated with an instrumental examination in about ten days: the attacker, who will be a guest in Sanremo in these days, will certainly miss the two league matches against Udinese and Verona and the first leg of the Europa League round of 16 against Manchester United.

CALHANOGLU - More uncertainty instead about Hakan Calhanoglu, who came out at half-time: the instrumental tests showed a widespread edema of the medial flexor muscles of the left thigh. He will be re-evaluated according to clinical evolution.

 
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Hitchens said:
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Calabria got my vote.
 
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Hopefully Mandzukic returns for the game vs Man Utd
 
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yungfreddy said:
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bro...i dont think u understand how lame basketball is and how cool and global football is

zlatan is way bigger then lebron
and also messi is 10x bigger then MJ (but u cant compare cause its different times)
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If you ask someone that has never watched any sports who Messi is, they might now know.

You ask them who Michael Jordan is, and they'll say basketball.

Also in regards to just popularity, David Beckham is one of the most famous football players globally. And currently, Cristiano Ronaldo is more popular than any other player.
 
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Berlusconi said:
If you ask someone that has never watched any sports who Messi is, they might now know.

You ask them who Michael Jordan is, and they'll say basketball.

Also in regards to just popularity, David Beckham is one of the most famous football players globally. And currently, Cristiano Ronaldo is more popular than any other player.
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Wrong. They'll say it's that guy from Space Jam if they don't know basketball/sports. :D
 
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nonsonoqui said:
Looks like Ibra and Calha won't make it for Wednesday.
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Might be good for us, they've both been quite bad / average. Let's give others a chance.

I really wanna see Hauge CAM, but probably won't gonna happen soon. Pioli seems to not trust Lmeao at CF, so I hope this doesn't mean Rebic CF... even Diaz false-9 sounds better
 
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Goodmorning Milanistas

Except congo
 
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Kessie was boss yesterday, I dont know what happens to him in the inter and spezia match.
If he always plays like that, we win for sure.
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Kessie was overrun vs Inter & Spezia because the entire squad didnt stand their ground.
Yesterday he didnt need to cover for others & he was a beast.
 
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Berlusconi said:
If you ask someone that has never watched any sports who Messi is, they might now know.

You ask them who Michael Jordan is, and they'll say basketball.

Also in regards to just popularity, David Beckham is one of the most famous football players globally. And currently, Cristiano Ronaldo is more popular than any other player.
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Maradonna too.. even my aunts know hes a football player
 
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So maybe

GK: G.Donnarumma, Tatarusanu, A.Donnarumma

CB: Romagnoli, Tomori, Kjaer, Gabbia

LB: Theo, ???

RB: Calabria, Kalulu

DM: Bennacer, Kessie, Tonali, ???

AM: Calhanoglu, Otavio

LM: Rebic, Leao

RM: Thauvin, Saelemaekers

CF: Ibrahimovic, ???
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Kerkez, Svanberg, Belotti and Mandzukic.
 
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Tomori transfer just shows how smart Maldini&co are. Instead of going for the overhyped kids who'd cost more than they're worth + demand a big wage, they found a gem in a tough situation (benched) and got a good price +loan deal
 
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Ronin said:
Tomori transfer just shows how smart Maldini&co are. Instead of going for the overhyped kids who'd cost more than they're worth + demand a big wage, they found a gem in a tough situation (benched) and got a good price +loan deal
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28 m... thats no peanuts in covid times

But tomori is worth every penny. Hopefully chelsea agrees to some instalments

Question is, will tomori want to stay? Well see
 
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Pingu said:
Wrong. They'll say it's that guy from Space Jam if they don't know basketball/sports. :D
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Michael Jordan is in the same tier with Darth Vader and Michael Jackson. Even if you know nothing about anything you have heared of them and would recognize them

Messi I wouldn't dare to say so.

Jordan is up there because he's been the first megastar from sport who really was promotable outside his sport and in a tremendously commercial way. In the 1990s having a sport figure as prominent and popular like him on every McDonald's or Nike or many other adds just wasn't as common as it may be today. Not even with the likes of Maradona or whoever you might think of. That's why he became so famous all over the world even to those who haven't watched one single minute of NBA or even basketball.
 
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I think Hauge should be playing instead of Castillejo every time. samu doesn't really offer anything in my eyes, he runs around a lot thats about it
 
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Pingu said:
Just needs to be more proactive and find an approach against these high press teams we face, when we have a line line and destroy us on the counter.
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I don't think high press means what you think it means.
"High" refers to the position of the press, not it's intensity.

Spezia pressed high - Inter did not.
Teams that look for counters aren't pressing us high - they stay in their own half.

At full strength, the team knows how to deal with high press and low blocks.
Problems appear when several key players are missing or off form and we have a new unsynchronized XI every week due to injuries, COVID, suspensions and rotation. The decimated team ends up not having the quality, fitness or cohesion to deal with fitter, well-organized sides regardless of how far up the pitch the opponents press. Liverpool are experiencing similar difficulties, but they may not even make Top 6 this season.

I think Pioli misjudged some players and he could've dealt with the issues more pragmatically. The team needs to reduce risks when they clearly aren't in a state where they can pull off risky moves.
But there are some players that are simply not good enough(Krunic, Meite, Dalot), not ready(Tonali) or poor fits for high press / high line(Leao, Romagnoli).
 
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Alo88 said:
Michael Jordan is in the same tier with Darth Vader and Michael Jackson. Even if you know nothing about anything you have heared of them and would recognize them

Messi I wouldn't dare to say so.

Jordan is up there because he's been the first megastar from sport who really was promotable outside his sport and in a tremendously commercial way. In the 1990s having a sport figure as prominent and popular like him on every McDonald's or Nike or many other adds just wasn't as common as it may be today. Not even with the likes of Maradona or whoever you might think of. That's why he became so famous all over the world even to those who haven't watched one single minute of NBA or even basketball.
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Crazy to look at just a few of his endorsement deals. Coke, McDonald's, Nike, Gatorade...I can't even think of bigger or more global brands than these ones in the 90's.
 
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Goodfella said:
I don't think high press means what you think it means.
"High" refers to the position of the press, not it's intensity.

Spezia pressed high - Inter did not.
Teams that look for counters aren't pressing us high - they stay in their own half.

At full strength, the team knows how to deal with high press and low blocks.
Problems appear when several key players are missing or off form and we have a new unsynchronized XI every week due to injuries, COVID, suspensions and rotation. The decimated team ends up not having the quality, fitness or cohesion to deal with fitter, well-organized sides regardless of how far up the pitch the opponents press. Liverpool are experiencing similar difficulties, but they may not even make Top 6 this season.

I think Pioli misjudged some players and he could've dealt with the issues more pragmatically. The team needs to reduce risks when they clearly aren't in a state where they can pull off risky moves.
But there are some players that are simply not good enough(Krunic, Meite, Dalot), not ready(Tonali) or poor fits for high press / high line(Leao, Romagnoli).
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I think my typo maybe ruined what I meant, not "line line" - high line. We push up the pitch with a high line sometimes against a high press (as you've said, they are high up the pitch) and can leave us vulnerable when we lose the ball to it. We get beaten when they press players onto our key carriers i.e. Hakan who wasn't able to contribute much when this occurs. We end up losing the ball, and if we play up the pitch against that press with slow CBs then we just ask for trouble. We had issues against Atalanta and Lille (first game) when pressed and with intensity. It drowns out our play, which yes it certainly isn't helped with all of the injuries and players returning out of form. Problem is, we rarely have that cohesive full strength team to deal with it like they know how, so an alternative is needed. If we look back at the rate of injuries, you can suspect it will not be the end of it, and have to plan accordingly. Can't keep doing the same thing if Spezia can figure us out, and have others do the same.

Agree with your latter point. If you don't have the players with the characteristics needed to pull it off, we need to adapt. Not even a change in formation necessarily but how we dictate play and move the ball.
 
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Imo Messi is not that big a "brand" as he could be because he is frankly quite boring and not that charismatic.

Compare that to Maradona who - despite being a legendary player - I?d say even outgrow his player quality in popularity.
 
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The answer to this question of global popularity can only be found in the deepest jungle of the most remote areas on the planet....so please let?s either go there and find the answer or let?s talk about another subject
 
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