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Are people really hating him? Or is it just trolling?

He's very young and it's his first season at a top club. Remember Thiago Silva when he arrived? His first season was shaky, and he was older and much more experienced than Romagnoli, played beside Nesta, was already a NT regular... Under much better conditions than Romagnoli has currently, Thiago Silva still struggled. And I'm talking about a player who after a shaky first year became the most comanding CB in Serie A and sometimes in the world during his second and third seasons at Milan.

I'm not saying Romagnoli will be great for sure or anything like that, but it's laughably early to write him off in any way.
 
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people are hating on him cause he was labelled as the next nesta but according to sage he is just a romastori. lol. Yes, they are trolling.
 

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chin up kid, it's all about him learning out there. Which is going to be slowed a lot when he has guys like Zapata next to him.
 

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Are people really hating him? Or is it just trolling?

He's very young and it's his first season at a top club. Remember Thiago Silva when he arrived? His first season was shaky, and he was older and much more experienced than Romagnoli, played beside Nesta, was already a NT regular... Under much better conditions than Romagnoli has currently, Thiago Silva still struggled. And I'm talking about a player who after a shaky first year became the most comanding CB in Serie A and sometimes in the world during his second and third seasons at Milan.

I'm not saying Romagnoli will be great for sure or anything like that, but it's laughably early to write him off in any way.

I personally am not hating, but I think he should get a normal treatment just as all other players + I would like other people to stop with the blind fanboysm.

He's done nothing amazing so far, just showing some glimpses of a good player, as well as many flaws coming from his lack of experience.
 

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Well I'm still upset about the undeserved red and now he misses the next match too. And this is a forum for fans of Milan so I expect & love to see appreciation and excitement and love and support for our players here. IMO Alessio is special and loveable, not perfect & if I want to read objective and or neutral views I go elsewhere, but TBH I only find that Alessio has fans all over the place.

Big hug for our Romagnoli & Forza Milan!

 

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I personally am not hating, but I think he should get a normal treatment just as all other players + I would like other people to stop with the blind fanboysm.

He's done nothing amazing so far, just showing some glimpses of a good player, as well as many flaws coming from his lack of experience.

+1, the sooner we accept him for what he is (a good player with a lot of potential) the better it is even for his growth. There's nothing more tiring than having to be on your best game every single time (look at Pogba now that there's no Tevez, Pirlo, Vidal to attract some of the scrutiny)
 

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+1, the sooner we accept him for what he is (a good player with a lot of potential) the better it is even for his growth. There's nothing more tiring than having to be on your best game every single time (look at Pogba now that there's no Tevez, Pirlo, Vidal to attract some of the scrutiny)

1. He had a yellow card already (should be aware of that)
2. It was not a last man situation
3. DES (i think it was him) was already catching up. He could've left it for him to take the booking.
4. Others were retreating as well.
5. We were losing anyway, playing in 10 with 1 goal diff is not better than playing in 11 with 2 goal diff (if they would manage to score anyway)
6. It was a bad foul, using his elbow... its clear the opponent went for a dive, so had he not used his elbow, probably there would be no booking.

Stop hyping him and making excuses. Yes, Zapata is the 1st to blame, but he did wrong as well.

The more you hype him, the harder the fall will be when it comes.


totally agree with you two.

We need to stop hyping everything our young players do and start criticizing them when they make mistakes because they won't learn what they're doing wrong if we keep saying 'grand partita' after bad ones.

Saying he has had a bad game or he made a mistake is not hating on him, it's just rating his performance. Look at how bad De Sciglio has become precisely because of the unlimited chances he keeps getting after all the blunders he's been making on a regular basis. Same happened with El Shaarawy, Pato, Gila... the same will happen with our future youth talents that we still don't know of yet.

We need to give credit when it's due but also criticize them when they make mistakes. We have to be neutral when rating performances.


Romagnoli and Ely both have had red cards from two yellows in the first half this season and we are only 6 games in. We thought them two would be our starters for the season but some of us thought that the inexperience will be huge and it didn't take long to show. Alessio is far from perfect, he's been making a number of mistakes but that is totally normal for someone in his position. He has a lot of room to improve and the potential is crazy for him. He will turn into a great defender if Milan groom him the right way. Nowadays the fans' opinions have heavier weight than they did 10 and 20 years ago because of social media... these players have easy access to see what their fans think of them... and it can destroy their confidence and in some cases they may not recover (SES, Pato).

Turning against them is the wrong thing to do but benching them when they have a few bad performances in a row isn't necessarily a bad thing - look at how Montolivo reacted when he was benched a couple of games. We need to keep in mind they're human too and their psyches are equally as important as their talent is. I'm confident that Miha knows that each case is different - some players need delicate treatment and some need an iron hammer.

Bottom line - I think Romagnoli still needs more time before we can judge if he's going to be great or not. Unlike Bertolacci though, he has shown quite a few glimpses that he's capable of being a reliable great defender in the future. He's only 20 and this is his 2nd season in Serie A.
 

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I'm going to miss him tomorrow though
 

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was missed against napoli
 

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Good game... Except for the last 20 mins
Only 20 and leader of ACM's defense... Impressive
 

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Really need a good experienced partner. He shouldn't be leading the defence just yet, however he is a fantastic player and the best defender we've had since Silva/Nesta.
 

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Good game... Except for the last 20 mins
Only 20 and leader of ACM's defense... Impressive

Leading it to the second worst defense in Serie A.

I'm not seeing anything special. & the new Nesta, not seeing it at all
 

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Leading it to the second worst defense in Serie A.

I'm not seeing anything special. & the new Nesta, not seeing it at all

You do know hes 20 and has been playing alongside the likes of Alex, Zapata, Abate and Des, right?
 

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I love this kid. Fantastic talent, he just needs an experienced CB thats reliable and still not passed it to form a partnership we can build on. Go Alessio ❤️
 
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Loved him. So calm and collected in defense
Only 20 years old jesus. Romass lol. Well done big boy. Too bad u have that nincompoop, alex, as your partner.
 

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Loved him. So calm and collected in defense
Only 20 years old jesus. Romass lol. Well done big boy. Too bad u have that nincompoop, alex, as your partner.

:star::thumbsup:
 

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Hopefully his growth isn't stunted by the situation around him
 

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Probably our most consistent player thus far. Very good for a 20 year old CB.
 

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The dream is to bring back Silva and be Romas partner. our defence would be fixed.

since we use to bring back our old players its just matter of time when Silva is back :proud:
 

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Wasn't he near Belotti and Basselli when they scored? He could've done more imho.
 

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Wasn't he near Belotti and Basselli when they scored? He could've done more imho.

For a defender, the #1 rule is never let the striker behind you free, you have to always be behind him (ie. the defender has to be closer to his goalkeeper when marking a striker).

Two of the cases were a defender is allowed to go infront of the striker is if he has anticipated a pass and moved quick to intercept it quicker, or if he wants to push the striker into an offside position - both cases happened with the goal and Alessio on both occasions did the right thing. He first intercepted the ball correctly but the clearance wasn't the best - then Kucka/Abate's man was free to get the lucky clearance and played it really quick to the same player Romagnoli was marking and at the instance the pass was made Alessio was already ahead of their player.

Romagnoli correctly pushed his striker into an offside position but playing with an offside line is one of the most difficult things any defender learns when they are moving from the youth setup to official games. Alessio did the right thing in pushing him, but Romagnoli's mistake was not paying attention to Antonelli's stupid mistake of ruining his offside trap. You can see that both Romagnoli and Antonelli raised their hands up asking for offside when the pass was made - meaning the intention to play them offside was there, except that it was incorrectly executed by Antonelli.

Here's the goal again... If you look at minute 00:31 you'll see Romagnoli was bringing the offside line forward because he assumed he was the last defender.... but Antonelli didn't push back up with him. For me, this goal is 45% Antonelli's, 35% Diego Lopez, 15% Abate and only 5% Romagnoli. Why Diego Lopez? Simply because a world class goalkeeper should never ever concede a goal on the near post like that. The defender's job is to close the outer post while the goalkeepers job is to cover the near post. Why Abate? Replay the video and focus on Abate. He followed the ball instead of the player, and in that case it was the incorrect decision because he allowed someone to be free behind him in the area and that player ended up scoring. Kucka can be also at fault for not following his player the whole way, but personally I think if Abate did not follow the ball and stayed back next to Romagnoli then Baselli would've never had that much space to take a shot.

 
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For a defender, the #1 rule is never let the striker behind you free, you have to always be behind him (ie. the defender has to be closer to his goalkeeper when marking a striker).

Two of the cases were a defender is allowed to go infront of the striker is if he has anticipated a pass and moved quick to intercept it quicker, or if he wants to push the striker into an offside position - both cases happened with the goal and Alessio on both occasions did the right thing. He first intercepted the ball correctly but the clearance wasn't the best - then Kucka/Abate's man was free to get the lucky clearance and played it really quick to the same player Romagnoli was marking and at the instance the pass was made Alessio was already ahead of their player.

Romagnoli correctly pushed his striker into an offside position but playing with an offside line is one of the most difficult things any defender learns when they are moving from the youth setup to official games. Alessio did the right thing in pushing him, but Romagnoli's mistake was not paying attention to Antonelli's stupid mistake of ruining his offside trap. You can see that both Romagnoli and Antonelli raised their hands up asking for offside when the pass was made - meaning the intention to play them offside was there, except that it was incorrectly executed by Antonelli.

Here's the goal again... If you look at minute 00:31 you'll see Romagnoli was bringing the offside line forward because he assumed he was the last defender.... but Antonelli didn't push back up with him. For me, this goal is 45% Antonelli's, 35% Diego Lopez, 15% Abate and only 5% Romagnoli. Why Diego Lopez? Simply because a world class goalkeeper should never ever concede a goal on the near post like that. The defender's job is to close the outer post while the goalkeepers job is to cover the near post. Why Abate? Replay the video and focus on Abate. He followed the ball instead of the player, and in that case it was the incorrect decision because he allowed someone to be free behind him in the area and that player ended up scoring. Kucka can be also at fault for not following his player the whole way, but personally I think if Abate did not follow the ball and stayed back next to Romagnoli then Baselli would've never had that much space to take a shot.


15% to Abate? Abate hold the same responsibility as Diego Lopez for just charging like crazy
 

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For a defender, the #1 rule is never let the striker behind you free, you have to always be behind him (ie. the defender has to be closer to his goalkeeper when marking a striker).

Two of the cases were a defender is allowed to go infront of the striker is if he has anticipated a pass and moved quick to intercept it quicker, or if he wants to push the striker into an offside position - both cases happened with the goal and Alessio on both occasions did the right thing. He first intercepted the ball correctly but the clearance wasn't the best - then Kucka/Abate's man was free to get the lucky clearance and played it really quick to the same player Romagnoli was marking and at the instance the pass was made Alessio was already ahead of their player.

Romagnoli correctly pushed his striker into an offside position but playing with an offside line is one of the most difficult things any defender learns when they are moving from the youth setup to official games. Alessio did the right thing in pushing him, but Romagnoli's mistake was not paying attention to Antonelli's stupid mistake of ruining his offside trap. You can see that both Romagnoli and Antonelli raised their hands up asking for offside when the pass was made - meaning the intention to play them offside was there, except that it was incorrectly executed by Antonelli.

Here's the goal again... If you look at minute 00:31 you'll see Romagnoli was bringing the offside line forward because he assumed he was the last defender.... but Antonelli didn't push back up with him. For me, this goal is 45% Antonelli's, 35% Diego Lopez, 15% Abate and only 5% Romagnoli. Why Diego Lopez? Simply because a world class goalkeeper should never ever concede a goal on the near post like that. The defender's job is to close the outer post while the goalkeepers job is to cover the near post. Why Abate? Replay the video and focus on Abate. He followed the ball instead of the player, and in that case it was the incorrect decision because he allowed someone to be free behind him in the area and that player ended up scoring. Kucka can be also at fault for not following his player the whole way, but personally I think if Abate did not follow the ball and stayed back next to Romagnoli then Baselli would've never had that much space to take a shot.


I agree with you, but still think that if he was the "New Nesta" he could've done more. Run faster or sliding tackle, instead of raising his hand. He focused too much on the offside.
 

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I agree with you, but still think that if he was the "New Nesta" he could've done more. Run faster or sliding tackle, instead of raising his hand. He focused too much on the offside.

he isn't the new nesta yet, people are saying he might be the new nesta and these comparisons do nothing good for player, it just adds more pressure to perform.

this is only his second season in serie A. he needs time. he raised his hand because he was certain that he played him offside (and he was right). Romagnoli's only mistake was that he assumed Antonelli was also on his line, but Luca was the one who spoiled the offside trip.

he has shown promising signs so far that he can be a good defender, but he also has made a lot of mistakes due to his inexperience and that only is natural. That's what we get for investing 25m for a 20 year old coming off one season in Serie A. It's a bet that we made and I think it'll come good in due time once the rest of the team finds stability. Right now there are too many things going on in the defence and that doesn't help Romagnoli grow. It would be very unwise to write him off this early.
 

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It's silly to call him "The New Nesta" after one good season with Sampdoria. He's shown a lot of promise but let's not judge unfairly because of that title people gave him.
 

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I think Alessio is playing really well given his age & relative inexperience, he's obviously a fantastic talent and he's only going to improve. His attitude is exemplary & I like the way he organises the defense, something he does with the u21s as well.

It was Miha who started the Nesta comparisons, iirr he said that Alessio reminded him of Nesta, except he had more technical qualities. For me all players are unique & I don't like this tendency for the media etc to call players new this & new that. I enjoy watching Romagnoli because of his qualities & his style & his personality.

Forza Milan!

 
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