Cagliari - Milan 9/11/2024 17:00 CEST

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Theo is further in the box along with the the cb's, he is tricked to leave his spot so spaces can be opened and the shooter has the entire view of the goal, with nobody to block.
Very amateur actually.

With Parma i think, happened too.. we left some points there too.
what are you saying? he should leave open the opponent closest to our goal and go man mark the furthest???
this doesnt make any sense:conf:
 

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It was 3 on 3 in the back, so only possible solution there is for okafor to follow his mark all the way back, which they teach you at U8
The guy would be able to shoot anyway, the block should have been made by the full back.
 
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what are you saying? he should leave open the opponent closest to our goal and go man mark the furthest???
this doesnt make any sense:conf:
Theo can't go into the cb's zone, that opens spaces, its the basics. His zone is the left side, he had to block every shooting attempt from there. In that photo for example, he should had been 3 or 4 steps to the left.
 

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Yeah, we allowed some random shooting from there, that we shouldn't.

And our defense its been awful in aerial duels.
I'll get to watch the full game later...

Could I surmise that spaces were left due to gaps in midfield and spaces opening as Theo bombed forward?

Tactical brainfarts or players brainfarts?
 

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I'll get to watch the full game later...

Could I surmise that spaces were left due to gaps in midfield and spaces opening as Theo bombed forward?

Tactical brainfarts or players brainfarts?
Players. Fonseca had really simple ideas actually, you can see that he doesn't change the structure or nothing, only functions of individual players, it was the same mistakes we had against Parma.
 

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and who the fuck puts the 3rd goal on theo's fault.
i ve notice there is a trend to try to blame everything on the players, especially the important ones, to take attention away from fonseca shitty tactics. redshit orphans at their best.

they are 3v3 in the penatly box. theo is marking his man. the one who scores is number 28, unmarked. probably okafor's man.

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He can't be Okafor's man. We were playing 5-3-2 at that moment, you can't expect the striker to be marking the opponent inside the box.

But our defence was all over the place throughout the whole match, regardless of the system or players. Cagliari scored 5 goals, 2 offside by inches. This is simply unacceptable.
 

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In my opinion, Even if Fonseca isn't the appropriate coach to improve the team level, I can't blame him, managing shit players Exept few one like Maignan, and other whose deposits making assist and scoring, the flaws are Morten important than their quality, midfielder whitout defensive abilities and poor long passes , defenders struggling in the air and outrun by average opponent, Wingers unable to create lightning drrible to strike the defense opponent leading to an easy assist for the Striker, the substitute can't fit perfectly in any position neither as play-maker or backing up their teammate on defensive task, ex: RLC is neither a true box box or a trequartista, Okafor???? sometimes he blow up the screen though a winning goal 2 or 3 times per season that's all, Musah : he press go deep, go forward, present everywhere, but no efficiency...

You can hit out at me, putting clowns to feedback my post, but the problem is Gerry and co
Our squad is not bad.
 

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I posted this immediately after that goal: where the hell was okafor. It's mind-blowing how he tracks back nonchalantly during their attack while his mark is 10 meters away from him
learned from the best

this is the tracking back he watches in training:

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If we play a 343, I think we'll see similar problems.

In my view, we lack the central presence to really control the middle of the pitch, to prevent the switches of play that are the genesis of the crosses that hurt us so badly.

We are so top-heavy in attack that our team is constantly playing catch-up, trying to close out a fire on one side, and that cross from our right to the left is killing us.

Fonseca also sacrificed the threat of Leao, which occupies so much attention from our opposition, that it invites more pressure. Taking off Leao and Pulisic really hurts us, really really does.
Either 433 or 343… we need one more defensive body on the pitch whether it’s in the defensive line to shore up the back or the midfield line to improve the control of games

Chuk is absolutely not worth sacrificing defensive stability/midfield control for
 

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Completely write off the win at Bernabeu. We so needed three points from this match and we failed the mission.

We play football all season long. Wins against Inter and Madrid are merely one-offs that honestly do not do us any good in the long run.

We beat Inter 2-1 and they are still above us in the table. What good did that win fucking do us? Nothing.
 

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Yeah, we allowed some random shooting from there, that we shouldn't.

And our defense its been awful in aerial duels.
If Cagliari's goal was not disallowed (last second touch by an offside player) then their right full back Zappa would have have scored a hattrick against us. Their first goal was also scored by their right midfielder. This means all 4 goals they scored were from the same side in a similar manner, besides the many similar chances that they squandered. So Theo has to be at fault for his poor defending and add to that he did not do anything offensively, then its a shit performance from him entirely.

I also noticed that in the build up Pavlovic was not passing the ball out to Theo (nor did Thiaw to Emerson), this might have been instructions from the coach, but I thought that Theo's strengths are not being used properly under fonseca.

Back to the goals we conceded, a part of the blame has to go on the right side who should work better to prevent the crosses and since most of them came from their LB Augello then it was the task of our right midfielder(s) to be more alert and to track him down whenever they progressed the ball into our area.
 

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and who the fuck puts the 3rd goal on theo's fault.
i ve notice there is a trend to try to blame everything on the players, especially the important ones, to take attention away from fonseca shitty tactics. redshit orphans at their best.

they are 3v3 in the penatly box. theo is marking his man. the one who scores is number 28, unmarked. probably okafor's man.

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Folks keep blaming the players but as someone said, if you keep conceding the same goals time and time again, its a fucking coaching issue.

Also, Theo's poor defensive abilities isnt some brand new information. He has always been like that. Difference is, in Scudetto season he had an on form Tomori to cover not to mention an intelligent defender like Kjaer. Now we have an absolute bonehead like Pavlovic who struggles to control even simple balls and goes awol in defense.

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Who turns off a game in the 85th minute ? :conf:
I was pushing it with getting to work. I commute between 2 states now smh. It never fails though that they give up a goal at the end.
 

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Folks keep blaming the players but as someone said, if you keep conceding the same goals time and time again, its a fucking coaching issue.

Also, Theo's poor defensive abilities isnt some brand new information. He has always been like that. Difference is, in Scudetto season he had an on form Tomori to cover not to mention an intelligent defender like Kjaer. Now we have an absolute bonehead like Pavlovic who struggles to control even simple balls and goes awol in defense.

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Facts. We lose 2 goals or more in 7 matches on 15 this season.
 

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This season is more or less over. We blew it big time.

IF they were ever going to fire him, the time was before the derby. It’s too late now.
This is way too premature.

I have faith that he’s going to right the ship. We’re not even a third of the way into the season.
 

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This is way too premature.

I have faith that he’s going to right the ship. We’re not even a third of the way into the season.
Depends what the objectives are.

Competing for but not necessarily winning the Scudetto? I think it’s too late. Top 4 it isn’t.
 

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Depends what the objectives are.

Competing for but not necessarily winning the Scudetto? I think it’s too late. Top 4 it isn’t.
Clearly the objective is to coast to CL spots. They haven’t built a squad for Serie a dominance. Should be fine.
 

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Clearly the objective is to coast to CL spots. They haven’t built a squad for Serie a dominance. Should be fine.
Cool, so am I to temper my expectations for the umpteenth season despite Fonseca’s war cries?

I know dominance is out of reach but competing for the top prize shouldn’t be. In November.
 

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