Frosinone - Milan : 03.02.2024 | 18:00 CET | Week 23 Serie A

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Bennacer was worse than Adli. I don't think Tiji played well, certainly not at a 7. Adli played really well in the second half, he was excellent.

It's a bit eye test vs personal preferences vs numbers. Statistically, I can see why Sofascore rates Reijnders with 3 lost balls in midfield or won 2 out of 3 duels better than Adli with 13 lost balls in midfield and only 1 out of 6 duels won, for example. Then again you could say Adli took risks and Reijnders played it save, not doing any harms but not standing out at all either.
 

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I think on the one hand this team is playing haphazardly, but on the other they are capable of turning a game on its head. We have a deep team that has had little continuity all season. The last few weeks have been largely casualty free bar Miranda’s skin rash, and I think we have collected, what, 20 out of 24 in the league? I could be wrong.

When I think back to the last day of the summer mercato and Jovic’s last-minute signing, I am pleasantly surprised at how well he has turned out for us. He has been a solid transfer. Rescued us countless number of times.
I just realized I called Mirante Miranda.

I guess I am a Sex and the City fan.
 

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It's a bit eye test vs personal preferences vs numbers. Statistically, I can see why Sofascore rates Reijnders with 3 lost balls in midfield or won 2 out of three duels better than Adli with 13 lost balls in midfield and only 1 out of 6 duels wo, for example. Then again you could say Adli took risks and Reijnders played it save, not doing any harm but not standing out at all either.
What is a "lost ball" anyway? An attempted pass that doesn't get there? Like if you make a great pass, but it doesn't work, or your teammates misses it, they clap for you and say "nice try" but it goes down as a "lost ball"?

Tiji played pretty poorly today, he got a 7.0
 

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What is a "lost ball" anyway? An attempted pass that doesn't get there? Like if you make a great pass, but it doesn't work, or your teammates misses it, they clap for you and say "nice try" but it goes down as a "lost ball"?

Tiji played pretty poorly today, he got a 7.0
Adli will always have a bad score relative to his play. He usually does hockey assists, and not true assists, so his impact to goals is underreported. He takes huge risks, so his pass accuracy is always shit. He tends to try and play his way out of trouble so sometimes loses the ball. Statistically he would look off, but looking at him today I thought he was great. One of our top 3.
 

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Two cheeks of the same ass. Truer words have never been spoken.
 

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What is a "lost ball" anyway? An attempted pass that doesn't get there? Like if you make a great pass, but it doesn't work, or your teammates misses it, they clap for you and say "nice try" but it goes down as a "lost ball"?

Tiji played pretty poorly today, he got a 7.0

I too think a 7.0 is too high. But, statistically, you can't say he was poor. As I said, very little ball contacts, not as involved as Adli. It was a good call to take him out. However, in those few touches, he barely set a foot wrong - statistically at least. So... can it be a poor game then?

As I said, Adli was very involved, tried to make things happen, took responsibility and risks. But defensively he gave away a lot of dangerous balls. I liked his 2nd half way better than his 1st half. Giving the end result and my personal preferences, maybe I'd switch Reijnders and Adli's rating. But I still find it interesting to see how the eye tests matches with the naked, indisputable numbers.
 

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Also, Leao isn't scoring since September, but we still somehow score 2-3 goals per game. Talent and quality is definitely there and significantly improved compared to last seasons squad. But we're not balanced at all. With a better coach, we'd dominate the league.
 

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Two cheeks of the same ass. Truer words have never been spoken.

I remember him making those little garbage comps. Leao acknowledging his existence got to his head. English-language Milan Twitter is bottom of the barrel. Him being taking seriously is a clear indication of that.

Jovic is literally the only reason the scudetto talk is possible, which is ridiculous btw. The amount of points he’s earned us this season are precious to say the least.
 
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I too think a 7.0 is too high. But, statistically, you can't say he was poor. As I said, very little ball contacts, not as involved as Adli. It was a good call to take him out. However, in those few touches, he barely set a foot wrong - statistically at least. So... can it be a poor game then?

As I said, Adli was very involved, tried to make things happen, took responsibility and risks. But defensively he gave away a lot of dangerous balls. I liked his 2nd half way better than his 1st half. Giving the end result and my personal preferences, maybe I'd switch Reijnders and Adli's rating. But I still find it interesting to see how the eye tests matches with the naked, indisputable numbers.
The further forward Adli was allowed to play, the better he played. He's not a DM, never has been, but its telling that Pioli is relying on him to play the role, even with Musah back.

Also, Leao isn't scoring since September, but we still somehow score 2-3 goals per game. Talent and quality is definitely there and significantly improved compared to last seasons squad. But we're not balanced at all. With a better coach, we'd dominate the league.
He's scored in the CL and the Coppa Italia though, which also masks the fact that Leao is looking to setup his teammates, because he knows they are open.

I thought he was excellent today. He should have had a few assists today.
 

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This was such a cool win.

Andiamo!
 

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What's their point? This is not impressive.
 
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The clue was substitutions at 62':
* Loftus Cheek out (very poor in defence and in attack as well today)
* Bennacer in (the only midfielder in Milan at the moment who is really good in defence and playing the ball)
 

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Our last loss in the league was against Atalanta on December 9th.
Since then 6 wins, 2 draws.
Pioli modern day Capello.

If they gave him a proper striker, dm he would have gone undefeated like fabio
 

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Two cheeks of the same ass. Truer words have never been spoken.

The English media said the same about Pippo mio.
The same media who kiss the ass of Kane say that about Pippo who sits at home kissing 2 Champions Leagues and a World Cup 🤣
 

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The further forward Adli was allowed to play, the better he played. He's not a DM, never has been, but its telling that Pioli is relying on him to play the role, even with Musah back.


He's scored in the CL and the Coppa Italia though, which also masks the fact that Leao is looking to setup his teammates, because he knows they are open.

I thought he was excellent today. He should have had a few assists today.

This wasn't a dig at Leao. Pulisic for example impressed me even less today. I'm just glad our game isn't quite just Leao and inshallah anymore.
 

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This wasn't a dig at Leao. Pulisic for example impressed me even less today. I'm just glad our game isn't quite just Leao and inshallah anymore.
Pulisic if he isn't scoring or assisting he can go missing for large parts of the game doing nothing. That's one flaw.
 

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Seems like it went according to Pioli's plan :o

3pts
Yeah... For the purists I guess score 1 more legit gets you the win.

I love a bit of pain but fuck it's sore watching Milan week in and out...

Again I didn't get to watch the full game this week, so going to watch in it's entirety shortly... And I'll not break the TV or lose my voice.
 

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We’re 5 points from Inter, 6 from Juve if they win.

It’s not impossible.
We need to just concentrate on our own game...

The inquest will be interesting one way or another come seasons end.

We can still win the EL and Serie A, these are truths. We need Inter and Juve to start slipping up.

Maybe they will, maybe the won't, but we have a good squad that "for whatever reason" isn't performing like it really should.

We have to just keep "scoring 1 more goal".
 

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2 points can't be the difference between 100% in the race and 'rather improbable'. We would have needed Juve and Inter to slow down in any case. We need to beat them both. We need to go on a good run.

We've been on a pretty damn good run since Dortmund. We only dropped points in Serie A at Atalanta, Salernitana and at home to Bologna. We beat Frosinone twice, Udinese, Roma, Empoli, Sassuolo and Monza.

7 wins, 2 draws and a loss. 2.3 points per game. That's not a bad run, and if we keep that up we could be in the race if they slow down.
Just to back up something @Samaldinho said... We're stil in the title race, and we are, we're winning in spite of Pioli, not because of his tactical genius.

Sometimes you have to simply see most teams are simply not as good us quality wise, so when we win, it's one of our better players playing better than our inferior opposition.

We struggle against teams that are better drilled, better organised, and have realised that we really are there for the beating at times.

Ultimately and weirdly we're winning, still coming back in games. I think a few on here who maybe don't get to watch matches week in week out see scores and look at stats and assume all is well during our games.

It's interesting those commenting in match threads and who's absent yet commenting in the commode.

Better the devil you know I guess...

I'm going to try, try hard to stop talking about how limited Pioli is. How he's reached his ceiling, theres nothing more he can offer.

It's a mute point, in my eyes he simply HAS to go if we want to make that next step!
 

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