Massimiliano Allegri Thread II

[forward]

I think he's awful at reacting to opponents. Look at him vs Real in 2nd half when Zizou changed his tactics. He didn't react at all tactically. He just kept shouting like a mad man and he brought in Lemina for no reason

Umm... Capello still coaches in 2017(granted he's a free agent right now but), and for Capello it was more ideology than anything. He wanted guys like Savicevic to run and sacrifice but the latter had other plans. Capello was stubborn in not working with Savicevic(leaving him out of 2 finals) but that's about it.

You're right in drawing parallels to Capello with Allegri in that they're defensive minded but that's where the comparisons end. The former is and always was better than the latter. I don't think defensive football is exactly "outdated"(and certainly it proved it's merits this year for Juve when they only conceded 3 goals throughout the campaign prior to the final) but in a CL Final it really never had any place and that's where you have to change your strategy and attack to secure the win.

You can't just score 1 goal and then try to defend that lead(which was Allegri's strategy he even said it on a press conference before the match) in a CL Final...certainly not against Real, you need to score more than one goal at least and keep attacking. Instead, after equalizing Juve just sat back and tried to absorb Real's attacks which was a huge mistake. Allegri's gameplan was flawed from the beginning.

 

[GreatKalu]

Yeah I'd say he never really addressed the deficiency Juve were having in the middle of the park. Thats where they lost the game as Madrid's midfield trio bossed the center of the park for long spells...

If he had also played three in the middle, it would have been a much tighter game which would have suited Juve better in my opinion.

 

[Soldier_of_god]

van boss is definitely a much better player than khedira. wtf, dont ever compare that trash to van bommel.

 

[Tadej]

He is plug and play FM player.

 

[Boban1982]

He's won the double 3 seasons in a row and in that time got to the CL final twice. Not bad I would say. I'd like success like that at Milan.

 

[The Bear]

Yeah I'd say he never really addressed the deficiency Juve were having in the middle of the park. Thats where they lost the game as Madrid's midfield trio bossed the center of the park for long spells...

If he had also played three in the middle, it would have been a much tighter game which would have suited Juve better in my opinion.

I think this final also showed that being a great player sometimes does matter for a manager. The game was won in midfield and Allegri simply couldn't rely on or recall the playing experience that Zidane could. Zidane read Allegri's pressing game and turned things around by going for possession, quick passing etc.

Of course, Juve were steamrolled and outplayed and no tactic could have saved Allegri. He's got a plan A with his 4-2-3-1, a plan B with a 3-5-2 and simply lacked a 4-3-3 plan C, and for that he needs to sign the right ball-playing midfielders. They'll never win in Europe otherwise.

van boss is definitely a much better player than khedira. wtf, dont ever compare that trash to van bommel.

No such thing as a good defensive midfielder. They are the epitome of anti-football and a cancer to the sport.

 

[Boban1982]

I think this final also showed that being a great player sometimes does matter for a manager. The game was won in midfield and Allegri simply couldn't rely on or recall the playing experience that Zidane could. Zidane read Allegri's pressing game and turned things around by going for possession, quick passing etc.

Of course, Juve were steamrolled and outplayed and no tactic could have saved Allegri. He's got a plan A with his 4-2-3-1, a plan B with a 3-5-2 and simply lacked a 4-3-3 plan C, and for that he needs to sign the right ball-playing midfielders. They'll never win in Europe otherwise.



No such thing as a good defensive midfielder. They are the epitome of anti-football and a cancer to the sport.

I don't think being a great player had anything to do with Zidane's Real beating Juve. Real are the best team in the world that is why they beat Juve. No team since Milan in the early 90's has retained the European Cup that shows how good this Real team is.

 

[dude]

No such thing as a good defensive midfielder.

They are the epitome of anti-football and a cancer to the sport.

t. Xavi Hernandez
Please stop talking about football forever.

 

[unda]

No such thing as a good defensive midfielder. They are the epitome of anti-football and a cancer to the sport.

 

[Soldier_of_god]

I think this final also showed that being a great player sometimes does matter for a manager. The game was won in midfield and Allegri simply couldn't rely on or recall the playing experience that Zidane could. Zidane read Allegri's pressing game and turned things around by going for possession, quick passing etc.

Of course, Juve were steamrolled and outplayed and no tactic could have saved Allegri. He's got a plan A with his 4-2-3-1, a plan B with a 3-5-2 and simply lacked a 4-3-3 plan C, and for that he needs to sign the right ball-playing midfielders. They'll never win in Europe otherwise.



No such thing as a good defensive midfielder. They are the epitome of anti-football and a cancer to the sport.

are you saying that khedira is a better defensive mid than van bommel??

 

[The-Loko]

No such thing as a good defensive midfielder. They are the epitome of anti-football and a cancer to the sport.

 

[leaf]

No such thing as a good defensive midfielder. They are the epitome of anti-football and a cancer to the sport.

While not shocking for an Allegri fan, this explains a lot. Thanks

 

[Jasper]

didn't know bears can operate fishboats

 

[Massaro94]

No such thing as a good defensive midfielder. They are the epitome of anti-football and a cancer to the sport.

 

[forward]

OFFICIAL: Juventus extend Allegri contract until 2018

Fuck yes!

Can he be the legend that loses 3 CL finals in a row?

 

[Jasper]

photoshop boiz?

u know what to do

 

[Boban1982]

OFFICIAL: Juventus extend Allegri contract until 2018

Fuck yes!

Can he be the legend that loses 3 CL finals in a row?

Capello lost two out of three with Milan. Even great coaches lose finals and Allegri's Juve lost to the better team in both games V Barca and Real.

I don't understand the hate with Allegri, maybe it's a jealousy thing. He would have built a great Milan had he not worked for the loon that is Silvio. Allegri was sacked at Milan after Silvio sold his best players.

He moved onto Juve who have put Milan to shame in the last 10 years. Juve have been fantastically well run and now make considerably more money than Milan, have their own stadium and a world class squad.

It's only now that Silvio has finally sold up that we have a new management team in who are trying to take us to the level of Juve.

I wouldn't bet against Allegri taking Juve to another double next season and to the CL final. I would love success like that at Milan.

 

[dude]

Can he be the legend that loses 3 CL finals in a row?

Too late for that, this guy beat him to the punch a long time ago

Capello lost two out of three with Milan.

Well in one of them he was robbed because Marseille were doping so can't fault him on that one. He could have won 1995 if he wasn't so stubborn in dealing with Savicevic

I don't understand the hate with Allegri, maybe it's a jealousy thing.

Ancelotti fanboys.

 

[forward]

He moved onto Juve who have put Milan to shame in the last 10 years. Juve have been fantastically well run and now make considerably more money than Milan, have their own stadium and a world class squad.

Bullshit.

He took a winning team off of Conte's hands and at best did marginal improvements.

He is extremely one-dimensional. People say he is a great tactician but that's laughable as well. If his plan A doesn't work, he never has a plan B.
He fails to adjust to the opponent during the course of the game.

He is a shit motivator and he often chokes on big stage.

 

[forward]

Too late for that, this guy beat him to the punch a long time ago

Capello lost 3 finals in a row?

Ancelotti fanboys.

Milan never had shittier fans than we do now.
Ancelotti has more European titles than your favorite club Juve.
And Sh1tlegri, the Bonera of coaches, will never win a single 1.

 

[Jasper]

Capello lost 3 finals in a row?

 

[forward]

Desperate Jasper prancing all over my dick.
Still salty from the Ibra days.

 

[Boban1982]

Bullshit.

He took a winning team off of Conte's hands and at best did marginal improvements.

He is extremely one-dimensional. People say he is a great tactician but that's laughable as well. If his plan A doesn't work, he never has a plan B.
He fails to adjust to the opponent during the course of the game.

He is a shit motivator and he often chokes on big stage.

I can't agree.

Conte was dire with Juve in Europe and if i'm correct one year didn't even make it out of the CL group stage. Allegri has taken Juve to the CL final twice in three years. Hardly a marginal improvement.

 

[Jasper]

Desperate Jasper prancing all over my dick.
Still salty from the Ibra days.

Great depiction of reality

 

[forward]

Great depiction of reality

Thanks man!

 

[General]

Great depiction of reality

 

[dude]

Capello lost 3 finals in a row?

That's not Capello dumbo. That's Marcello Lippi in the photo

Milan never had shittier fans than we do now.
Ancelotti has more European titles than your favorite club Juve.
And Sh1tlegri, the Bonera of coaches, will never win a single 1.

Because I criticize Ancelotti fanboys I'm an Allegri/Juve fanboy now? LMAO!
And just pages ago in this thread you were quoting my posts with ""... decide already

And btw 2 of those CL's were Milan(heck one of those was pretty much Kaka) not Ancelotti. He got really lucky with Madrid.

 

[General]

 

[forward]

That's not Capello dumbo. That's Marcello Lippi in the photo

My bad, I never knew Lippi lost 3.
I started watching football after he lost the first 2.

Because I criticize Ancelotti fanboys I'm an Allegri/Juve fanboy now? LMAO!
And just pages ago in this thread you were quoting my posts with ""... decide already

And btw 2 of those CL's were Milan(heck one of those was pretty much Kaka) not Ancelotti. He got really lucky with Madrid.

Shit, chill man.
I seriously get triggered when I see "Milan fans" hype Allegri.
In Serie A he has no competition and the team was pretty much built for him by Conte.

And in the current CL getting to the finals is impressive.
Alghough current Bayern, Barca are far from the teams they were a few years ago.
And English teams are non existant in the competition.

But chocking in the finals - typical for Allegri on big stage.

 

[Jasper]