Official: Charles De Ketelaere Thread

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This AM almost SS experiment by Pioli is a detriment to his tactic. Most of CDK better games was when he drops in the midfield and provide well-timed passes from a counter to players making forward runs.
 

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He need to be closer to the right side, make him and brahim swapping between ss/cam<->rw, krunic for bench.
 

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We gave Leao over 2 years' time to watch, learn, grow and finally shine. Why are we only giving CDK 2 months?

No, we are not one-dimensional fans. Our brains can reason better than just "oh so that 35m signing still not knowing what to do". Repeating the same/similar criticism until a player starts to do better is super autistic. Negative EQ score.
 

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Charles will play better once we solidify our defence. Currently it's not a bad defence but it is a little bit leaky and there is evident disorganisation in the entire defensive set up of the team.

At the end of last season we racked up win after win because our players played a collectively solid defence and with that in mind we attacked with more conviction in our abilities and we were clinical and fit to rise to the occasion.

I don't think the CdK problem has to do with his position on the pitch as much as it has to do with the defensive strategy of the team. If we can stop the leaks then Charles could get the freedom to demonstrate his attacking skills which is something we undeniably missing last season.

What effectively happened is that we replaced Kessie, who gave stability to the defence, with Charles who adds another dimension to the attack.

I think we are a good midfielder short of having a very solid team. For what we have now I'd like to see a more solid core (maybe a square shaped mid) with Charles partnered by Pobega eventually.
 

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No judging this guy before the end of the season.
Padre compared it with Leao and Tonali who struggled a lot in their first season.
 

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This AM almost SS experiment by Pioli is a detriment to his tactic. Most of CDK better games was when he drops in the midfield and provide well-timed passes from a counter to players making forward runs.
we never really played w a 10 since hakan left

diaz always did this ss thing but he dropped deep every now and then

at the begging you guys couldnt really

padre needs to tweak and adjust this

also....3 man mid or 3 at the back and FRONT 3 OF LEAO-CF-CDK is needed and no leao and cdk dont need to strictly be wingers in this cdk could easily have a free am role there and rafa can drift wide. we have personnel for 3 man mid

or 3 atb with benny-tonali in centre with wingbacks and same front 3
 

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that **** outplayed us all
 

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Something is wrong with this kid. He looks depressed. Last night he didn't show half a smile. Missed that amateurish sitter. Then left the pitch immediately without saluting the fans with his teammates.

I don't get it. I really hope he's not being isolated by his teammates both on and off the pitch, because that can be devastating for a person's morale.
 

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Forza Tcharles, he will be fine. He is doing OK, just lacking in confidence especially from the exagerrated criticism. He is playing well enough and it's good that he cares. I'd be worried if he was hopeless but he's not, he fights for the ball and looks to combine with his team mates and when the time comes he will score a goal. Daii Tcharles!
 

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He will come good he just needs time.

The chance last night he missed was harder than it looked. The ball bounced high and awkwardly and at that point the game was over. I'm just glad he didn't get injured moving himself into a position to score the goal.
 

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To me, the no goal and assists stats are really looking like it's messing with his mind. He looks really desperate to score a goal whenever he's in front of the goal and when he's not, he looks sulky with his half ass jogging. The talent is there for everyone to see, but I really hope he's not mentally fragile as a person
 

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If he had a tiny bit more luck, he'd have multiple assists and probably some goals too.

In any case, he's been better than Tonali was - a little below Leao's first season level.
 

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He is broken. So obvious to see

Now its up to him to work hard. Lets see
 

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The critics are a bit over the top IMO. If Milan's results were proportional with his bad form, I'd understand the outrage. Considering we're winning games and scoring a lot while he's subpar, it's palatable because at this stage in his career it's normal growing pains. CDK isn't anchoring us down in any way. Current Milan is a healthy environment for young players going through difficulties to justify their worth because Pioli isn't going to throw them under the bus - unlike a manager of Conte or Mourinho's style. We've already witnessed this with Leao and Tonali. I'm not saying he's destined to become good, just because Tonali and Leao developed in a thundering way, but it's important to underline that we need to be patient and mayhaps need a bigger sample size before drawing the conclusion that "he's shit" or "he needs to be sold".

(Personally I think any young talented player will eventually blossom under Pioli and this will certainly be the case with Charles as well.)
 

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that AM position is just not suited for him, or at least when giroud is the striker. Irc We are yet to see how he performs in that position with origi/rebic as st.

I gave up on the idea of Pioli making him a Striker.
At least try him more at RW, since he had a good cameo against Juventus
 

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CDK suffers because neither Leao nor the RW combines with him regularly enough. Leao plays with Theo and Giroud most of the time; on his flank with Theo, or straight in the box with Giroud – it's no surprise that CDK flocks around OG most of the time, he is not hiding, he is waiting hopelessly for a ball to come; 9/10 that ball comes from the wings instead of the middle where an AM is meant to get balls, distribute on the wings, or verticalize. That play-making job is taken away from CDK by our general tactics, which really are Leao/Theo dependent.

Chances coming from the RW are scarce; Messias is nowhere to be found, Sale is injured and Rebic, well, his contribution to any build-up play is mostly anarchic.

If I were Pioli in my dreams I would ask;

- OG and CDK to go on holidays together and practice combinations.
- Tonali and Benny to not rush their passes to the flanks but vary in the middle as well.
- To offer solutions to Tonali and Benny before rushing to the last 16.

The question of course is whether we bought CDK to do that or something else which we are yet to see.
 

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There were times when we broke out in numbers and our players were running towards the Dinamo goal and I wished that the ball fell to CdK because he has the ability to pick out the correct pass and to put the right weight behind it. The other attackers on the team are not as good with the final pass, rather they are better at running into space or in Leao's case to take on players.

I think in such situations we should look for CdK, the way players look for Messi and we have to give him the time to grow and sharpen his decision making, it's not enough for a playmaker to have 1 or 2 chances per game he needs to see a lot of the ball.
 

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CDK suffers because neither Leao nor the RW combines with him regularly enough. Leao plays with Theo and Giroud most of the time; on his flank with Theo, or straight in the box with Giroud – it's no surprise that CDK flocks around OG most of the time, he is not hiding, he is waiting hopelessly for a ball to come; 9/10 that ball comes from the wings instead of the middle where an AM is meant to get balls, distribute on the wings, or verticalize. That play-making job is taken away from CDK by our general tactics, which really are Leao/Theo dependent.

Chances coming from the RW are scarce; Messias is nowhere to be found, Sale is injured and Rebic, well, his contribution to any build-up play is mostly anarchic.

If I were Pioli in my dreams I would ask;

- OG and CDK to go on holidays together and practice combinations.
- Tonali and Benny to not rush their passes to the flanks but vary in the middle as well.
- To offer solutions to Tonali and Benny before rushing to the last 16.

The question of course is whether we bought CDK to do that or something else which we are yet to see.

I agree to certain extent. But from my point of view, CDK does get a lot chance to see touch the ball too, but he always seem to linger on the ball way too long instead of releasing it early. It's like he hasn't got used to the fact that defender will be on his ass if he holds the ball too long.
 

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Stop blaming the players around him when he cant even do the basics things

Less complicating more simple and he will be ok
 

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He didn't start that bad but now seems to regress, of course CAM also exaggerates that, a CM and to some degree a winger can get away with putting in the work rate, a CAM needs to eventually make things happen directly.

Definitely too early to judge but I don't like that he gives slight Gourcuff vibes lately, bit of a trend in the wrong direction going on. Also he definitely is not a "plug and play" player, Brugge made us overpay 5-10m, paying so much for small league players isn't the best idea.
 

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$150 million level player
Luxury of a championship side to be able to bring him along
 

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Stop blaming the players around him when he cant even do the basics things

Less complicating more simple and he will be ok
i mean he already keeps it pretty simple, no?
 

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Switch role between am and rw to ease cdk brahim clmakers and messias.
 

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guy is mentally broken. bring the midget as CAM for the rest of the season because pioli sure isn't giving CDK time at RW.
He will be good at rw needs some experience on the decision making, pass or shoot, giroud should scream to him more.
 

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