The Rumour Commode XLII: An Homage to Bunga

Serie A: upcoming 23/24 season is going to be better than previous 22/23 season


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If CDK was so "readily available", why did we have to pay full price for him (and waste most of the mercato in a rather embarrassing saga).

By available, I meant that he was ready to leave his previous club, Brugge. At the end of the 2021/22 season, he was ready to close the chapter on his time at Brugge and take the next big step of his career. He had pretty much achieved everything that could be achieved at Brugge - 3 consecutive domestic league titles (their first 3-peat since the 1970s), 3 Champions League seasons in a row. His ambitions and aspirations had outgrown the club. He was ready to leave and move on; there was little motivation for him to stay on beyond that season.

Once we knew that he was available for a transfer, and expressed our interest to sign him, and that interest was reciprocated back; the decision to prioritize a CAM signing was pretty much made for us then. It was our best shot at getting not only one of our long-time desired transfer targets, but also a player with the potential to finally solve our CAM problem. The 2022 summer transfer season was our best window of opportunity to finally get this highly rated young promising player that we had followed, scouted, and wanted for quite some time. Not only was he available, he strongly only wanted to come to us and outrightly rejected other interested clubs. He was determined to be a Milan player and made every effort for it to happen, including reducing his wages to better facilitate the move. If we hadn't shown any interest, he'd have most likely left for the Premiership. Leeds were the other club that made a strong concerted effort to get him. They were even prepared to pay more for him than what we ended up paying. While they may not be as appealing as us, Leeds had an ambitious and promising project - built on the backs of young promising players too - going on at the time. They could've swayed him then, especially if we weren't quite in the picture as one of the clubs interested in him. He'd have been a major signing for them, and a strong statement of ambitious intent to reclaim their place among the English football elite. If he had gone there and succeeded, some of you would probably have moaned: "Why didn't we get this Belgian kid when we had the chance? What a missed opportunity! We were his first preference and he desperately wanted to play for us. He could have been our CAM/no. 10 for many many years, and finally solved our CAM problem that we haven't fixed since Hakan left."

There was definitely a sense of urgency about our pursuit of De Ketelaere, at least on two counts: (i) an urgency to not miss out on one of Europe's biggest and most promising young creative talents; (ii) an urgency to address the CAM position, one of our high priority key positions (like RW) that badly needed to be fixed/improved/reinforced, especially for the long-term – in other words, an urgency to not miss out on a player that could potentially set us up for good as our CAM for many years to come. If we had failed in our efforts to get him, that could mean failure on so many levels. Failure to (yet again) address a major key position (CAM) that badly needed to be improved. Failure to address one of the team's technical shortcomings (lack of overall creativity and passing talent). Failure to get a player with the potential to be a cornerstone of the club's future. Failure to continue building on the project of young players that could grow together and form a strong foundational backbone/core for the club's present and future. The stakes were pretty high enough and the urgency to not fail was certainly there.
 

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best part was where we paid his former club 10m and left him there on loan for yr
 

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What I don't understand is wasting all our budget (and time) on one player, especially when we had other serious gaps in our team.

Unfortunately the reality of a modest transfer budget meant that we couldn't fully address all positions all at once in a single transfer season. We could only afford to have one "big hit" each transfer season, if we want to seriously and properly address all our major key positions that needed to be fixed like CAM, RW, CF. Many of our desired recruitments can only be acquired gradually and incrementally over the course of a few transfer windows. We had to be selective and spread out our potential "big hit" purchases over a few transfer seasons. You can't expect to buy a De Ketelaere, a Nico Jackson, and a Johan Bakayoko in one single transfer season. We had to pick our battles each transfer window due to tight budgetary constraints.

Which positions to prioritize, and in which transfer window to carry out that prioritization, fundamentally comes down to the transfer market opportunites that are available. In the last summer transfer season we had a big opportunity to finally solve our CAM position, once and for all, with De Ketelaere. So we took it! Our CAM position could be set for many years/seasons, or a decade, if he realizes his promising potential. Could we, in addition to De Ketelaere, have gone for a similar kind of purchase for RW in the last summer transfer season as well? Extremely doubtful. To get a similarly young promising player for the RW position last season, you'd likely have to pay around 35 to 50 million for say, a Nico Williams or a Johan Bakayoko. If we wanted Chukwueze last season, we'd have been expected to pay at least 35 million or more. Why he's cheaper this season is mainly because he was on the last year of his contract. Which is also my point about market opportunities. If you knew Chukwueze could be had for cheaper in a year's time, would you still get him at the start of last season? You'd also have to consider that Villareal would be far more reluctant to sell him a season ago than now. They don't really have a good reason to offload him back then.

Let me expand on this even further. If you surveyed the transfer market landscape back in the summer of 2022, you'd likely discover that there weren't much in the way of exciting RW talents available for that particular transfer season. Compare that to the level of RW talents that you could get a season later (2023/24), it's not even close. At least 4 promising RW talents would be on the last year of their contracts in 2023. Namely, Chukwueze, Nico Williams, Lukebakio, and Silas Mvumpa (renewed his contract to 2026 earlier this year, but back in 2022, his contract was on course to expire in 2024). It's likely that we simply held off on our pursuit of a high quality RW last season because of a lack of any good RW transfer opportunities back then. Maybe we were saving up and waiting for this current transfer season to finally address our RW position, just so we could have a good chance at a far greater field of available RW talents. Greater in terms of quality and quantity. In fact we were linked with Chukwueze as early as January/February of 2022. It could be that he was always our no. 1 or 2 target for the RW position, but we just couldn't make it happen back then. Too difficult, too costly. By contrast, negotiations for his transfer would be so much easier and cheaper in a season's time when he'd be on his last contract year.
 
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Not funny now anymore, isn’t it?
Utd signed 3-4 players? For near 200m
Milan have gotten half a new squad... less than 150m spent

yr the 1 counting the pennies.... you tell me, is it funny?
 

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Meanwhile ac milan’s striker is 40 year old who can’t even outpace acerbi
 

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I would trust CDK, yes, because he has promise. Thats whats expected when you’re dealing with young players. Somehow we went from a banter era level of “we need to trust young players because we can’t afford stars” to “we don’t have time to wait” due to winning the scudetto. Its kind of crazy to see. You make a plan, follow the plan, the plan works and suddenly everyone wants to abandon the plan because its beneath us. Weirdo behavior.
I don‘t have a problem with giving a young player time, but CDK is far below Leao‘s or Tonali‘s first season, he is not showing glimpses like them, he is showing absolutely 0.
 

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Moncada will find a no.9. He found Alvarez who is a top cf. He'll find someone. Maybe this Argentinian kid...

Also stop over rating Rade. He's an intelligent sistem player yes. Very. And when we play deep he covers great. But also lacks in many aspects. Good player to have but not some superb DM. Milan needs a real regista.

We are not complete. Still 4 players to go.
 

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I don‘t have a problem with giving a young player time, but CDK is far below Leao‘s or Tonali‘s first season, he is not showing glimpses like them, he is showing absolutely 0.


Didn't Tonali get benched by Meite in his 1st season? At the same time CDK hasn't shown that much in this summer's friendly matches.......
 

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Moncada will find a no.9. He found Alvarez who is a top cf. He'll find someone. Maybe this Argentinian kid...

Also stop over rating Rade. He's an intelligent sistem player yes. Very. And when we play deep he covers great. But also lacks in many aspects. Good player to have but not some superb DM. Milan needs a real regista.

We are not complete. Still 4 players to go.
Redondo Jr now... Veliz (earliest permissible transfer window if 4eigner thing a matter)
 

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Didn't Tonali get benched by Meite in his 1st season? At the same time CDK hasn't shown that much in this summer's friendly matches.......
Leao got benched as well, but Tonali showed grinta, Leao scored some goals, I cannot find anything redeeming like that about CDK.
 

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Utd signed 3-4 players? For near 200m
Milan have gotten half a new squad... less than 150m spent

yr the 1 counting the pennies.... you tell me, is it funny?
You’re counting not us. You let us be and go break records on flops. We don’t care.

Do you see us going to red cafe doing what you are doing right now?

Weird man utd fans 😂
 

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problem right there... if you did fecking care a little, you wudntve a Mongolian looking fecker as yr star midfielder today
Little weird remark but I’ll play along.

It’s better than having a former udinese youth product and sampdoria rotational player as a club captain at such a glorious club.

We won a scudetto recently, come back give us lessons the moment you lift a championship trophy.

Right now you’re behind Brighton, not to mention the other big 5.
 

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People just dont get it.
Inter, Napoli & Juve should be buying FBs.
Samardzic, Thuram, Weah & co wont matter when half the team is pinned down just to deal with our flanks.
 

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Leao got benched as well, but Tonali showed grinta, Leao scored some goals, I cannot find anything redeeming like that about CDK.

Leao got benched by Rebic who was playing pretty well at that time. Tonali getting benched by Meite is much worse. That's like Leao getting benched by Castillejo!

But Tonali came back strong the next summer, CDK hasn't yet shown good things in this summer's friendlies.....
 

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Little weird remark but I’ll play along.

It’s better than having a former udinese youth product and sampdoria rotational player as a club captain at such a glorious club.

We won a scudetto recently, come back give us lessons the moment you lift a championship trophy.

Right now you’re behind Brighton, not to mention the other big 5.
:) I wont play along...
 

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Messias is gone from tomorrow, I can feel it. Then its Toure who is out of plans
 

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People just dont get it.
Inter, Napoli & Juve should be buying FBs.
Samardzic, Thuram, Weah & co wont matter when half the team is pinned down just to deal with our flanks.
Um, inter will dominate the middle of the field. Musah and butt cheek aren't enough
 

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sell tom, buy Pavard
sell cdk, buy Redondo
 
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