The Rumour Commode XLIV: Paragliding to Piolistine Crisis

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Maldini’s interview is going to dampen the spirit around the club at a time when things aren’t going well. It’s a pretty selfish and shitty thing to do honestly
Ooooh, now I get it. I was so confused as to why people were mad at Maldini for simply telling his side of the story. “Maldini talks too much” “He’s unprofessional” Blah blah blah. You all still think this can be turned around. Wow. Reality still not set in I suppose. Let me fast track some of you. This season is going to be a shit show, as predicted by many before, we’re going to go out of the CL and possibly miss top 4. So now is the perfect time for Maldini to come out and say, “told you so.” Its over.
 

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It has this Boban vibes all over it. Same situation. Same tones. We just lost 5:0 to Atalanta, appointed in Pioli a low calibre coach and Elliotts project seemed in shambles before it really took off. Leonardo, a former club legend, was fired. Gattuso, another club legend, let go. And then, as if things weren't bad enough, they put up a fight with another club legend in Boban.

Public opinion was clear: Elliott is evil, bad american corporate poison pouring through our beloved clubs veins, destroying and rotting everything, with Gazidis at the tip of the spear. The perfect moment for Boban to drop his famous interview on the management - leading to his sacking in the process.

Sounds too familiar, no?

But I don't want to paint Maldini too much as a villain here. I've never been in the halls of Casa Milan or at the table during those meetings. I'm not a fan of doing the dirty laundry in public, but I can feel how hurt and angry Maldini is. And it's not like Redbird didn't take its chances to paint themselves in a good light and Maldini in a bad one, eventhough they didn't do it as confrontational and polemic as Maldini here :lol:

But still, Maldinis swing was coming, inevitably, and he cleverly (or cunningly, whatever you prefer) chose a moment of maximum effect. I don't like it because it hurts the club he claims to love above everything else, but I understand why he's doing it and why now.
Of course they didnt do it as confrontational. Why would they ? Maldini didnt backstab them. It was the opposite you know?
And stop with this "it hurts the club" thing. It doesnt hurt club, it hurts only management. You know, this management that already made the club hurt.
Took over a winniing squad and made it like this... however you look at it, its a fact
 

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What allegiances does he hold to current management?
Exactly. He doesn’t owe them anything.

They literally said Maldini wanted more autonomy and more control, and he said that wasn’t the case.

They started to damage his reputation and now it’s a problem that he defends himself? I don’t get it.

They disrespected him first, firing him like that, not responding to his 35 page report and telling the media he was on a power trip.

He had to share his piece
 

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take that to the logical extreme

so he should just run his mouth because.. fuck it?
Because he hasn't given an interview since his termination, with rb spinning the story as they saw fit, and him being perceived as incompetent for either the cdk signing or the pirlo rumors?

All conspiracy theories or criticizing him for the timing (what?) are irrelevant
 

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Maldini: “I didn’t talk earlier because time allowed for a clear head. There are people passing through Milan without any respect for its identity and history.”
So, sounding like an ex-girlfriend crying with her head over a quart of ice cream is him speaking after clearing his head? The guy was a soldier of a player for us, but this interview is like something from a gossip queen.
 

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Because he hasn't given an interview since his termination, with rb spinning the story as they saw fit, and him being perceived as incompetent for either the cdk signing or the pirlo rumors?

All conspiracy theories or criticizing him for the timing (what?) are irrelevant
I may have not heard of the other interviews that were this critical
 

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Clearly spoken by someone who never had a manager before in his life.

The problem is not that they fired Maldini. I think Moncada can do a better job as SD than Maldini. But the owners hardly gave Moncada serious money to spend. 40-45 mil net mercato is shit when you reached CL semis, have a low wage and a squad with holes in it.

Also Pioli has now been shown to be a problem for the club to go forward. And a serious club can't start the season with Giroud and Jovic as the strikers and injury prone Kjaer and not ready Pellegrino as the CD backups and no LW backup as well.

They need a full squad without holes for once and then the club will be self sustaining after that.
 

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What allegiances does he hold to current management?
He has an allegiance with the fans, the players, and so many others at the club outside of just ownership/management

We cherish him because of his connection with the club which goes beyond certain factors

In no way do his words achieve anything other than making the situation worse and a self-perceived boosting of his stock when in reality he makes himself look even worse
 

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Ooooh, now I get it. I was so confused as to why people were mad at Maldini for simply telling his side of the story. “Maldini talks too much” “He’s unprofessional” Blah blah blah. You all still think this can be turned around. Wow. Reality still not set in I suppose. Let me fast track some of you. This season is going to be a shit show, as predicted by many before, we’re going to go out of the CL and possibly miss top 4. So now is the perfect time for Maldini to come out and say, “told you so.” Its over.
Maldini edging to get his "told you so" post off and believing Gazzetta rumors about Inter almost signing Messi

Honestly, he'd fit in pretty well as a poster here
 

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So most of what I thought was true. Gerry pretty much wanted Maldini gone from day 1, couldn’t do it after the scudetto, did it the day after the end of the next season.

It was not about performance.

it’s also a bit petty to try to take credit for the stadium now being over 70k, and that he was going for Messi. All declarations that can’t be denied but make the management look bad and against the fans.

The issues in the squad now, especially Theo’s mental state, clearly could have been helped by Maldini. There is a gigantic hole at the club after he left. Pioli can’t fill it, nobody at the top can fill it. Maldini wasn’t content with just that role, wanted way more power, and that’s why he’s out. Too confrontational, too independent and ambitious. The interview confirms this.

Let’s hope Ibra if he’s back can take some pressure off of Pioli and break the mental block of the players. That’s something that’s missing after Maldini left that hasn’t been fixed, only by asking Pioli to be more influential than he’s capable of.

Again, the path RB are taking is the correct one. It’s just that we won’t see it until late in the cycle. We’ll have ups and downs but in a few years we will be in a place where we are dominant. Maldini wanted to force a much shorter timetable that would have had much more risk. Both methods could have worked, but RB/Elliott didn’t want the higher risk even if the evidence of success was on Maldini’s side.

You made all these squad cost spreadsheets and as far as I can remember you expected around a 70-80 mil net mercato for the 22-23 season. Then when it didn't happen, you thought it was a ownership transition period and the following year could see 70-80 mil net mercato. And that is even before Milan finished the season as CL semi-finalists giving the club a whole load of extra money.

Now, again the mercato was just 40-45 mil net and "RB are taking the correct path"?
 

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Cheering on the thing you love (Milan) getting fucked (shit on by disgruntled ex-employee, dirty laundry aired out no holds barred style)

I wonder if there’s a word for that :monto:
The people deserve to hear what the true king has to say. Those who continually tried to cause dissent amongst the people deserve one thing by the people. And that's the
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Exactly. He doesn’t owe them anything.
By this logic, what allegiance do I as a fan hold for CURRENT Maldini. Fuck all. What do I care about how he looks and how his ego is.

Also "unconditional love for Milan" is laughable when you are literally coming out to take a dump on the club at the worst time possible to make yourself look better. It's LITERALLY Mirabelli level.

It's not just "the ownership and the management" that's going to be affected, and to say we are "rock bottom" when we are sitting in 3rd place is just defeatist attitude. So to say this was just towards them and not the club is absolutely not true.
They literally said Maldini wanted more autonomy and more control, and he said that wasn’t the case.
He literally went on TV to tell the ownership to be smarter and spend more money. This interview makes him look even worse.
They started to damage his reputation and now it’s a problem that he defends himself? I don’t get it.
That he was difficult to work with. This confirms it. Reasonable observers seen this all along dating back to when he wanted "total independence on his opinions" and rejected to work with the Li ownership.
 

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Red bird (& rest of the sport franchises) learned a valuable lesson today:

When you hire someone in attempt to use their name or for nepotism reasons, expect entitlement when they are here and backlash when they leave.
I would say mostly RedBird - they think they are smart but continue to show they arent ready.
I dislike Gazidis but at least he understood how to play the game

 

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We get Benny back soon. Thats the thing I look forward to the most. Everything is else is fucked especially our repetitive play with no creativity
 

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Pioli’s press conference had one of the dumbest lines I’ve read in a while

“ Regarding the league, I told the team that there are many games missing and if anyone thinks they can’t reach Inter and Juventus with still 25 matches to play, it is better for them not to show up at Milanello.

“They all showed up, also because they are paid to do so.”

Motivation 101
The line above is even more telling because when Calabria said something similar regarding CL, Pioli himself chided him on the remarks
 

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I may have not heard of the other interviews that were this critical

-Paolo is uncomfortable with change
- the Milan name is attractive enough and doesn't require maldini's
And that's from scaroni who is basically a politician and a corporate shill, not straight forward like Maldini

Plus the stories about maldini's links to pirlo as coach (which, if he's so honest and critical for nothing in this interview like some say, he would admit so) and other spins to put maldini's name in a negative light immediately after the firing

So you could understand why a person that was legally forbidden to speak about the incident due to nda's would want to voice his side
 

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“ Regarding the league, I told the team that there are many games missing and if anyone thinks they can’t reach Inter and Juventus with still 25 matches to play, it is better for them not to show up at Milanello.

“They all showed up, also because they are paid to do so.”

Given the circumstances this is not very clever from Pioli. Perhaps it is a crude attempt at reverse psychology.

Regarding Maldini’s interview could the timing be better of course but is there ever an ideal time to for such a conversation. He has every right to tell his side of what happened.

Everyone has had their say so the story has come full circle and is now closed. All that matters now is the response on the field from Milan.

Ironically (I hope) recent developments could be just the spark to ignite a fire in the players. 🤞
 

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By this logic, what allegiance do I as a fan hold for CURRENT Maldini. Fuck all. What do I care about how he looks and how his ego is.

Also "unconditional love for Milan" is laughable when you are literally coming out to take a dump on the club at the worst time possible to make yourself look better. It's LITERALLY Mirabelli level.

It's not just "the ownership and the management" that's going to be affected, and to say we are "rock bottom" when we are sitting in 3rd place is just defeatist attitude. So to say this was just towards them and not the club is absolutely not true.

He literally went on TV to tell the ownership to be smarter and spend more money. This interview makes him look even worse.

That he was difficult to work with. This confirms it. Reasonable observers seen this all along dating back to when he wanted "total independence on his opinions" and rejected to work with the Li ownership.

I honestly don’t see an issue putting yourself over the club. I hugely respect people who have done that, like Gattuso did. But I don’t and won’t expect anyone else to be like that.

I know you disagree with him even saying all of this in the first place, but let’s say that it’s gonna happen, when do you think it’s the best time to do it?
 

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"We work in a team. It is an organisational model that is very dear to our shareholder [Cardinale] who, let us remember, is a sports specialist who boasts success in his activities."

Part of Scaroni's interview.

Can someone please inform me about Cardinale's "success in his sporting activities"? I'm genuinly asking what did he acomplish with his teams in America or wherever he had part in?
 

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Ah, yes, framing Furlani as some rat embarrassingly putting forward a tiny little budget, whereas chad Maldini was banging things out with a super budget, bringing in world class players, and...er, wait, no. Maldini was the one who let our best scudetto winning players walk for free. First Hakan, then Kessie, and then our captain Romagnoli.

"We had a wage cap in place, look at how responsible we were!" And yet you're now trying to flex on the world by saying you'd bring in Messi, who'd be on a billion dollars a week wage-wise.

And let's not forget the absolute duds that Maldini brought in BEFORE RedBird bought the club and presumably changed budgets, salary caps, and so on. Vasquez - 0 games, no impact. Dest - so bad we benched him so we didn't have to buy him out. Vranckx - like 10 games, 200 minutes, complete flop. Origi - somehow more reckless than Rebic, and with -1000% end product. CDK - the guy we blew our ENTIRE budget on, producing 0 goals and maybe 2-3 decent games only, out of 40. The only good signing to pan out ended up being Thiaw, and only because Kalulu and Kjaer couldn't stay fit, so Pioli put faith in him and he's become a stud.

You can argue that Furlani and company are stooges and hate Milan, want us to relegate to Conference League over Champions League, and all the rest, but Maldini was a certified moron after the title. Bad business across the board, except for Thiaw. And he doesn't get to take credit for the renewals because he's the one who I think realized he HAD to renew the squad's best players - as if this had to be pointed out to him. He fumbled the bag and set Pioli up, for all his faults. Last year's squad was a clear downgrade from the one that won the title, and aha, we struggled. Our squad this year, overall, is somewhat better, but injuries have killed us, whoever's fault that may be.

As I've remarked upon before, but to reemphasize - I love Maldini. He's the greatest football player of all-time. However, he has clear flaws I think, both as a person and as an executive. He retired as a player under less than ideal circumstances, and he's left us as a director under similar circumstances. As much as I can understand how being the greatest of all-time can lend itself to having a massive ego, Maldini repeats himself time and time again. At his best, he's a role-model and father figure, both in his own life and as a person in football. At his worst, he's a self-centered twat who sips too much of the AC Maldini kool-aid.

Regarding this season, it's been a perfect storm of issues, and anyone who thinks it's all down to the sinister trio cabal of Pioli, Furlani, and Cardinale are hopelessly reductionist and simple-minded folks. Unfortunately, nobody seems very willing to put blame at everyone's feet, because it's everyone's fault that the post-scudetto years have been so inconsistent.
 

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I honestly don’t see an issue putting yourself over the club. I hugely respect people who have done that, like Gattuso did. But I don’t and won’t expect anyone else to be like that.

I know you disagree with him even saying all of this in the first place, but let’s say that it’s gonna happen, when do you think it’s the best time to do it?
Summer when people are reading mercato news and thirsty for gossips
 

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-Paolo is uncomfortable with change
- the Milan name is attractive enough and doesn't require maldini's
And that's from scaroni who is basically a politician and a corporate shill, not straight forward like Maldini

Plus the stories about maldini's links to pirlo as coach (which, if he's so honest and critical for nothing in this interview like some say, he would admit so) and other spins to put maldini's name in a negative light immediately after the firing

So you could understand why a person that was legally forbidden to speak about the incident due to nda's would want to voice his side
That’s not how nda’s work
 

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@Cloren most importantly when you know team isn’t currently in competition and prolly just giggling reading the gossip on vacay like rest of us
 

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Ah, yes, framing Furlani as some rat embarrassingly putting forward a tiny little budget, whereas chad Maldini was banging things out with a super budget, bringing in world class players, and...er, wait, no. Maldini was the one who let our best scudetto winning players walk for free. First Hakan, then Kessie, and then our captain Romagnoli.
Lol, you really think it was only Maldini's decision to let club's assets walk for free? It wasnt the club who decided they will not renew these (for them) unfavorable contracts?
 
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